leaseweb.com does not accept customers from Ukraine

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• NodeSuper Member

  2:05PM

  Don't worry—they will refund your payment. It just takes a while—usually about seven days! They only accept business users; they do not accept individual users!
• rpqu Member

  2:38PM

  @William said:
  My company (well, the 17.5% i had of it) sold property stolen from Ukrainians that fled to Russians, primarily cars and business equipment as the gov stole all the real estate to sell themselves. This is not a war crime or similar per se but its still very much frowned upon and gets you sanctioned by the US. It is also plain and simple grand theft.

  I don't get it. Isn't Ukraine == good? Over-invoicing is so common in Ukraine so I guess many entities dealing with their mil/gov should be sanctioned too by that logic.
• fredo1664 Member

  3:06PM

  @rpqu said:

  @William said:
  My company (well, the 17.5% i had of it) sold property stolen from Ukrainians that fled to Russians, primarily cars and business equipment as the gov stole all the real estate to sell themselves. This is not a war crime or similar per se but its still very much frowned upon and gets you sanctioned by the US. It is also plain and simple grand theft.

  I don't get it. Isn't Ukraine == good? Over-invoicing is so common in Ukraine so I guess many entities dealing with their mil/gov should be sanctioned too by that logic.

  Post-Soviet style corruption isn't really anyone's problem outside of the country itself. Sanctions I think are more focused on trying to reduce the Russian war effort. I guess stealing properties to give to Russian people is frown upon as well.
• William Member

  3:15PM edited 3:20PM

  @rpqu said: I don't get it. Isn't Ukraine == good? Over-invoicing is so common in Ukraine so I guess many entities dealing with their mil/gov should be sanctioned too by that logic.

  I am neutral in this, i never supported either side much - i am a ruthless capitalist.
  Neither UA not RU ever treated my people with respect and rights, banishing us to the middle of nowhere, so why should i now feel bad for taking their cash that can now not be used in war and the Ukrainians all got made whole by their insurances anyway. Its not a victimless crime but absolutely to be expected if your plan is to long term annex something.

  But yes, stealing property to sell it to the invader is a bunch of crimes JUST below a war crime (like blowing up houses just to prevent return is iirc a war crime).

  I am also only an extremely small fish in this, at best we exported like 60 contaiers of mostly older cars total while others dismantled whole factories.
• Rubben Member

  3:30PM

  @jsg said:
  I'm a big fan of Leaseweb.

  Btw, they seem to clearly state that (a) it's not their decision but legal requirements, and (b) that you, it seems, have not, but can pass those requirements.
  So, where is the discrimination?

  Btw 2, being - or feeling - special goes both ways, but of course most who do only recognize one direction.

  But you're not much of a netcup fan right?
• zed Member

  3:40PM

  @Rubben will do business with anybody
• rpqu Member

  4:15PM edited 4:15PM

  @William said:

  @rpqu said: I don't get it. Isn't Ukraine == good? Over-invoicing is so common in Ukraine so I guess many entities dealing with their mil/gov should be sanctioned too by that logic.

  I am neutral in this, i never supported either side much - i am a ruthless capitalist.
  Neither UA not RU ever treated my people with respect and rights, banishing us to the middle of nowhere, so why should i now feel bad for taking their cash that can now not be used in war and the Ukrainians all got made whole by their insurances anyway. Its not a victimless crime but absolutely to be expected if your plan is to long term annex something.

  But yes, stealing property to sell it to the invader is a bunch of crimes JUST below a war crime (like blowing up houses just to prevent return is iirc a war crime).

  I am also only an extremely small fish in this, at best we exported like 60 contaiers of mostly older cars total while others dismantled whole factories.

  That sounds like the gov/mil UA (or your contact) doesn't have the legal order to mop up those civilian assets or even illegal act (because corruption).
  60*40'. 2 cars per 40'. At $2k per car. you got sanctioned because of $120k worth of sales? Even with 10% net profit that's only $12k. Wtf. That's understandable the treatment if it was $120K worth of centrifugal, accelerometer for U .