HostSailor AMS network issues

titus · May 20

If I not wrong, HostSailor and their main upstream provider (TNGNET - tngnet.com) is an old IRC friendly host since the beginning. IRC is not the satan itself. Sadly less and less ppl use IRC every year, and usually IRC users have problems with each others, not with the host/IRC server(s) itself. I accept, it can be a ddos magnet, but there is no evidence this happened (it's just a theory from the lot).

HostSailor is one of my oldest, reliable provider (from LET) with own infrastructure (hardware, IP ranges, etc). I had no problems with them in the recent years. I hope (try to believe), they will be able to solve this situation ASAP.

@HostSailor Please inform Your customers via email also, because I'm not sure, all of them use LET, or check it daily.

There is any update, info about the current status?

https://bgp.tools/prefix/185.198.58.0/24
"This prefix is not visible in the DFZ right now"

Mumbly · May 20

@default said:
Oh no! The major IRC servers are down again! /s

Damn, you're so annoying with that. You keep repeating "IRC, IRC, IRC..." as if you actually knew what's being DDoSed and what isn't, and as if anyone would still care enough about those IRC networks to DDoS them.
Most, if not all, of their IRC servers aren't even in AMS, but in RO.

I haven't seen a DDoS attack on an IRC server on IRCnet in at least a decade and yes, they host server there as well. I can only thank the companies that still support this old, old semi-forgotten part of the internet, even though there's not much going on anymore.

zed · May 20

yea its not like they run an efnet server or anything sheesh

cold · May 20

@Mumbly said:

@default said:
Oh no! The major IRC servers are down again! /s

Damn, you're so annoying with that. You keep repeating "IRC, IRC, IRC..." as if you actually knew what's being DDoSed and what isn't, and as if anyone would still care enough about those IRC networks to DDoS them.
Most, if not all, of their IRC servers aren't even in AMS, but in RO.

I haven't seen a DDoS attack on an IRC server on IRCnet in at least a decade and yes, they host server there as well. I can only thank the companies that still support this old, old semi-forgotten part of the internet, even though there's not much going on anymore.

No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Mumbly · May 20

@cold said: No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Exactly.
Because no one gives a shit anymore, and surely not us, old idlers. Channel takeovers, nick jupes, mass collides... are thing of the past. Mostly not even technically possible anymore.
Why would someone even ddos irc server today? That's so early 2000s.

cold · May 20

@Mumbly said:

@cold said: No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Exactly.
Because no one gives a shit anymore, and surely not us, old idlers. Channel takeovers, nick jupes, mass collides... are thing of the past. Mostly not even technically possible anymore.
Why would someone even ddos irc server today? That's so early 2000s.

they still do that on undernet, BUT not with so much power, they just split the server for a few minutes tops. they have other FRIENDS who hit them, its 100% not irc

tentor · May 20

@cold said:

@Mumbly said:

@cold said: No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Exactly.
Because no one gives a shit anymore, and surely not us, old idlers. Channel takeovers, nick jupes, mass collides... are thing of the past. Mostly not even technically possible anymore.
Why would someone even ddos irc server today? That's so early 2000s.

they still do that on undernet, BUT not with so much power, they just split the server for a few minutes tops. they have other FRIENDS who hit them, its 100% not irc

Why would anyone want to hit (and hold for a prolonged period) a network that was not fine even on it's own for a few weeks (months?)

anubhavhirani · May 20

Okay, nice

tfgp99 · May 20

@anubhavhirani said:

Okay, nice

kinda true, v6 is fine, v4 routes are fucked, at least for me

titus · May 20

Wow. All of my VM back to online. Hope will remain..

Neoon · May 20

Yes they have routing issues but it was still reachable, most of the time.

anubhavhirani · May 20

@titus said:
Wow. All of my VM back to online. Hope will remain..

ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? 💁🏼👀 I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

zed · May 20

@anubhavhirani said:

@titus said:
Wow. All of my VM back to online. Hope will remain..

ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? 💁🏼👀 I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

bro come on, before the last 2 months hostsailor has been premium don't be like that.

edit: i'll take your ams bf specials right here

edit2: just noticed my ip4 is back about 50 minutes.

zephyr32 · May 20

@zed said:

bro come on, before the last 2 months hostsailor has been premium don't be like that.

That's why it hurts.
Feels like I lost a valuable and respected member of the family.

default · May 20

@Mumbly said:

@default said:
Oh no! The major IRC servers are down again! /s

Damn, you're so annoying with that.

Thank you

You keep repeating "IRC, IRC, IRC..." as if you actually knew what's being DDoSed and what isn't, and as if anyone would still care enough about those IRC networks to DDoS them.
Most, if not all, of their IRC servers aren't even in AMS, but in RO.
I haven't seen a DDoS attack on an IRC server on IRCnet in at least a decade and yes, they host server there as well. I can only thank the companies that still support this old, old semi-forgotten part of the internet, even though there's not much going on anymore.

I don't know if these attacks mentioned by HostSailor have something to do with HostSailor hosting IRC servers, but the fact still remains: IRC still represents a magnet for DDoS. If you don't believe it, fine. Feel free to ask the staff of major IRC networks and you will get your answers.

If I bothered you, I won't apologise. Thank you for your attention on this matter.

rm_ · May 20

@zed said: bro come on, before the last 2 months hostsailor has been premium don't be like that.

Yeah. You may see me being sarcastic about them here, but grepped my IRC logs for sailor,

(2025)
Dec 09 18:12:06     renewed my hostsailor
Dec 09 18:12:10     10/10 perfect year
Dec 09 18:12:50     super stable

(2026)
Mar 30 16:00:51     sailor blames my ISP

Apr 02 15:18:11     sailor keeps telling me everything is ok, because nobody else complains

Apr 03 22:57:21     I think sailor is a cancel even if they solve this

And we know how it went from there.

remy · May 20

@zed said:

@anubhavhirani said:

@titus said:
Wow. All of my VM back to online. Hope will remain..

ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? 💁🏼👀 I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

bro come on, before the last 2 months hostsailor has been premium don't be like that.

edit: i'll take your ams bf specials right here

edit2: just noticed my ip4 is back about 50 minutes.

You can have my 2 VPS: Commodore / Sailor
Price prorated to remaining time + transfer fees if any
Buyer takes all, don't want to deal with support twice

I need money to buy disk space to store all the emails sent by my monitoring systems since 2 months

anubhavhirani · May 20

@remy said:

@zed said:

@anubhavhirani said:

@titus said:
Wow. All of my VM back to online. Hope will remain..

ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? 💁🏼👀 I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

bro come on, before the last 2 months hostsailor has been premium don't be like that.

edit: i'll take your ams bf specials right here

edit2: just noticed my ip4 is back about 50 minutes.

You can have my 2 VPS: Commodore / Sailor
Price prorated to remaining time + transfer fees if any
Buyer takes all, don't want to deal with support twice

I need money to buy disk space to store all the emails sent by my monitoring systems since 2 months

I am interested, share specs.

titus · May 21

@anubhavhirani said: ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

At the moment, five
And I not experienced big problems until yesterday
https://i.postimg.cc/J7S8sC70/2026-05-21-020317.png

default · May 21

@titus said:

@anubhavhirani said: ALL? You have more than one? You pay real money for this funny service? I am paying about $16 yearly, and consider it has donation already.

At the moment, five
And I not experienced big problems until yesterday
https://i.postimg.cc/J7S8sC70/2026-05-21-020317.png

Neoon · May 21

Redundancy, ftw.
The time people spend on this, insane.

Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

default · May 21

@Neoon said:
Redundancy, ftw.
The time people spend on this, insane.

Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

No! That is not the proper low-end attitude! Don't listen to this guy!

The proper way for low-end drama it is like this:

don't migrate data;
don't make backups, unless you're really bored or something;
open tickets and make screenshots and post on LET;
threaten with chargebacks and Paypal disputes;
always prepare with popcorn.

Neoon · May 21

@default said:

@Neoon said:
Redundancy, ftw.
The time people spend on this, insane.

Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

No! That is not the proper low-end attitude! Don't listen to this guy!

The proper way for low-end drama it is like this:

don't migrate data;

don't make backups, unless you're really bored or something;

open tickets and make screenshots and post on LET;

threaten with chargebacks and Paypal disputes;

always prepare with popcorn.

zed · May 21

@Neoon said:

@default said:

@Neoon said:
Redundancy, ftw.
The time people spend on this, insane.

Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

No! That is not the proper low-end attitude! Don't listen to this guy!

The proper way for low-end drama it is like this:

don't migrate data;

don't make backups, unless you're really bored or something;

open tickets and make screenshots and post on LET;

threaten with chargebacks and Paypal disputes;

always prepare with popcorn.

i mean that's the correct recipe for entertaining let

cold · May 21

@tentor said:

@cold said:

@Mumbly said:

@cold said: No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Exactly.
Because no one gives a shit anymore, and surely not us, old idlers. Channel takeovers, nick jupes, mass collides... are thing of the past. Mostly not even technically possible anymore.
Why would someone even ddos irc server today? That's so early 2000s.

they still do that on undernet, BUT not with so much power, they just split the server for a few minutes tops. they have other FRIENDS who hit them, its 100% not irc

Why would anyone want to hit (and hold for a prolonged period) a network that was not fine even on it's own for a few weeks (months?)

idk, let me check with them and I'll come back with you, HOLD ON YOUR TICKET IS BEING PROCCESSED, YOU ARE A VALUED CUSTOMER

mans_xd · May 21

@cold said:

@tentor said:

@cold said:

@Mumbly said:

@cold said: No one on IRC has that much DDoS power, nor IRCnet or Undernet. ( not anymore )

Exactly.
Because no one gives a shit anymore, and surely not us, old idlers. Channel takeovers, nick jupes, mass collides... are thing of the past. Mostly not even technically possible anymore.
Why would someone even ddos irc server today? That's so early 2000s.

they still do that on undernet, BUT not with so much power, they just split the server for a few minutes tops. they have other FRIENDS who hit them, its 100% not irc

Why would anyone want to hit (and hold for a prolonged period) a network that was not fine even on it's own for a few weeks (months?)

idk, let me check with them and I'll come back with you, HOLD ON YOUR TICKET IS BEING PROCCESSED, YOU ARE A VALUED CUSTOMER

dear value customer we appreciate your waiting and Your patience for 2 month, you waiting has been double, please confirm in ticket that issue has been solved and fuck off

jcn50 · May 21

All servers are online today~

HostSailor · May 21

Hello, a quick update from our side is the network situation is currently under control and most affected services have been restored. However, our team is continuously working on to solve it fully.

At this moment, routing for the majority of affected ranges has been restored and we are continuing to monitor stability closely.

Right now our focus is on keeping things stable first and making sure the network remains healthy before calling this fully resolved.

Sincere apologies for the inconvenience it has caused.

rm_ · May 21

@Neoon said: Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

And rely on others to create tickets to get it fixed yea :P

Neoon · May 21

@rm_ said:

@Neoon said: Just let it be, migrate your shit, check again in a week.
If its fixed, nice, if its still down, chargeback yesterdayTM.

And rely on others to create tickets to get it fixed yea :P

brother in christ.
My mesh network routes around fuckery, its build for that.

Why open ticket when you can just let it reroute automatically.
Only if its affecting my ping, I might open a ticket and complain.

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