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Go back to nodeseek. Go on! Get!
Well, well that may disappoint you, as my dispute with the scammer has already been resolved and I do not wish to share it here. However, if you do a little search, you may still be able to find relevant information.
Hi,
unfortunately that is probably not the case.
IF the account change was forbidden by TOS ( does not matter that you could not see them, you never made an order with the provider ) OR refused by the provider ( change of contract partners is in fact subject to permission of the counter contract partner -- for all contracts everywhere on this planet i would say ) THEN you dont have a contract.
Of course a contract partner has to agree that the contract is now with a new legal entity ( you as a person in this case ). Contracts are usually bindings between X and Y. If Y is replaced then X has to agree ( or at least has the right to refuse ). Thats default policy everywhere as far as i know -- any country.
You do not have the agreement with the provider. The provider refuse to accept the replacement of Y with you.
And thats where you and the provider never entered in a contractual relationship -- no matter that you paid the invoice.
Again, in fact you paid the invoice for the scammer ^^; You paid his extension.
So the best is: Get your money refunded by the provider ( if he does not want you as customer, he is not allowed to keep your money ). And thats it.
No matter how sad this story is and i can fully understand your frustration and all, but honestly you choose to go into risk here and gamble when you had no confirmation that account ownership changes are allowed. That was your own fault. So learn from it and be happy that the amount you lost is not even bigger.
If you can ( and want/need ) go against the scammer. Not against the provider. Its really not his fault. He really has nothing to do with all this story.
Any details on the scammer? such as a name, maybe we would recognise it
bro you the one who put yourself in this position, why even you try to get a old deal in that way instead of transfer? it's not a safe method to trade anytime, take responsibility to your actions, don't try to play hard on ToS point, you are clearly play around this point
Frankly speaking, I could not understand this behavior.
If the provider think he could win the dispute, why he delete it?
We already find out his alipay account and make a report.
Despite the TOS dispute.
Even I never entered in a contractual relationship with the provider.
What makes me angry is that I did request a refund and provided:
The provider offered me ZERO refund and ZERO alternative. As a result, I had no choice but to initiate a PayPal dispute.
Additionally, the archived record on the Wayback Machine appears to have been removed, which led to this post.
Share maybe his name here, people may already know him as a scammer or providers may want to watch his activity of doing the same on to them
Hi,
this is of course a no-go. A provider can not deny service AND keep the money at the same time if he claims that there is no contract between you and him. That is obviously wrong.
So you have all right to complain about this.
Simply initiate a dispute if he really does not want to give you the service he wants to keep the money for and remember for the future this experience when you choose your partners.
I hope you can somehow get back your money from the scammer! Good luck with this!
Thank you for your help, current information I could share is
When it comes to real personal information, I understand that I may appear somewhat overreactive.
Maybe
lmao FOUR damn pages of y'all seething.
And I forgot to buy popcorn -.-
uhu, you are really the person to blow things up
A most dastardly, sickening, morally crooked, reprehensible, evil cover-up with machinations to extract from you the princely sum of $13.50? The fiends!
Sorry, the amount is most irrelevant here.
LowEndTheft
Kudos for actually having the balls the post this on LET. Mostly when someone threatens with this, it never happens.
I do symphatize with your situation, you are clearly being scammed. But you making a poor decision to purchase an account rather than buying a service transfer is not something I should be held accountable for.
You open a ticket from a e-mail with no related active services. You admit, you've made a purchase of an account from another person. You pay for a service that is already active on the account, effectively renewing it. Halfway through the subscription the prior owner revokes your access to the account and the VPS.
Then I get asked to provide a full refund for a service that has been provided and still is active, because you've made a poor decision. I call this a poor decision not only because you've purchased an account but also because you apparently haven't secured your account after receiving it.
I could spend hours playing detective to check whether or not this is all true, or just some poor attempt to receive a refund. But that is simply not my job.
But in the end from the business perspective, the service which has been paid for has been and still is being provided for the paid period.
This case is not much different to someone being hacked. We aren't responsible for the safety of your account, and you have no right to dispute a payment just because you've lost access to it entirely due to your own lack of security. All the neccessary tools to prevent this situation is available, such as changing passwords and enabling 2FA.
But seems like PayPal chargeback was successful so maybe it's not paid anymore?
or they decided to pay themselves but woah, that would be crazy.
Please double check it so you don't deadpool and my amazing deal will continue to work, thanks!
The ToS link returning Invalid SSL certificate (Error code 526) is a valid concern.
Please fix it, that's your job.
If you just renewed your subscription, @labze should indeed issue a full refund. The bill was for $13.50, plus an $8 PayPal fee. That was definitely not a wise decision.
P.S.: It’s clearly stated on the website’s Terms of Service (TOS) page.
Obviously, the TOS page is currently unavailable.
How interesting it is?
When someone threaten me with "input your IP and email into MaxMind and Fraudrecords" first, then says I threaten you open to the public?
Only if you have a look at any screenshot, you may see emails from both billing and control panel. That simply proved that I have access to both site right?
Plus, I regenerate the random password after receiving it. How likely could someone hacked to an account protected with a random password?
This MJJer, trying to save a few bucks, bought discounted products through unofficial channels and got scammed. Instead of going after the seller, they unreasonably tried to cause trouble for the merchant—truly a joke.
I am j> @detavern said:
I hope you can see that you aren't getting the support from others you might have hoped for.
Of course I will report your PayPal account to prevent similar fraud happening to other providers.
I am quite sure that this dispute will end in your favor. PayPal will likely refund you at no cost to me. And that's fine, you get your money back. But that'll likely also encourage you to do this stunt again, so I am just taking precautions for others.
OP, in any case even if TOS is available online or not I would rather first submit the ticket to the provider if account/service migrations is allowed or not. Many a times such things are not included in TOS. Many hosts include it too. So better open ticket and ask. If they don't allow they'll let you know. simple as that.