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So... lets see... you fucked up, bought a thing from a scammer, then got upset that you got scammed and performed a fraudulent chargeback against a provider rather than going after the scammer to get your money back after it blew up in your face? This is why we can't have nice things.
We dont know, how long this server was paid until next renewal. Terminate it and if old owner asks why, just tell you not accept account transfers.
Then you return to the point that how to prove it is violate TOS? Since it is a blank to me. I still think it is controversial.
And I honestly have received no warning during the transfer period.
I wouldn't order something if I can't check ToS before doing purchase. Again, that's on you.
He didn't ask because OP also forgot to mention he bought an account with a Black Friday machine which can't be transferred (according to himself here).
1) Bought an account which not only was owned by multiple people in different times but also clearly bypassing the no transfer for offers rule
2) Get scammed
3) Somehow it's Hostbrr's fault?
The TOS would not apply to you even if it existed! HostBrr has no contract with you. They have no obligation to perform. You are not their customer. You never were their customer.
You opened this thread completely without context trying to blame provider. How is that legitimate? What the service provider did wrong here in your mind?
If you proceeded with service transfer in proper way (informing the provider about it), then this wouldn't be an issue.
@angstrom this feels like something that belongs in offtopic at this point, no?
Okay, even if the transfer itself was not considered legitimate, does that automatically mean the provider should neither offer me a refund nor provide a clear explanation in the ticket? I was never even given the opportunity to receive such a response.
Yes you are correct. So now, if he got his money and service is still active then @JabJab is correct he got himself free service
How you concerned it is a fraudulent chargeback, since I really paid 13.5 dollars to the host brr directly for renewal?
Yes. You broke the ToS by transferring ownership of the account to another person and not informing the provider about it.
Since when does one expect to get a refund for breaking the Terms of Service?
Keeping a ToS online is a whole other story, but if it's broken, you should report it to provider and ask before making a purchase or service transfer anyway.
So why not threat the previous owner same as me?
You could obviously find the statement in the ticket.
The previous has a chance to read ToS right? Which never happened in my case.
@detavern Please confirm:
1) You bought an account with a non-transferable black friday offer to bypass the rule (Which was also possibly owned by yet another person before)
2) You got scammed by the person who sold the account
3) You got a fraudulent chargeback from Paypal (fraudulent as in buying an account instead of getting the service transferred because you couldn't)
It's very convenient to come here and play coy about "well the TOS wasn't online" when the "no transferring offer machines" is a rule in most providers in LET. And to be honest to you, I think you knew this too and you're just trying to act like you couldn't possibly know.
Doesn't help with selling email accounts, which I heard is a case at NS.
That's what happen when there's price gap between deals and regular pricing. So the solution is to raise prices. Oh wait, I don't want that. So reduce regular pricing?
The only real solution is making offers so rare that no bot/reseller managed to get them
Yes, I admit that I know many providers prohibit account transfers.
NO, this was my first time using HostBRR’s service, so your assumption about my prior knowledge is incorrect. I genuinely did not know that Black Friday offers were non-transferable. Honestly, I did not even care whether it was a Black Friday offer or not — I simply needed a machine with 1–2TB of storage.
🤔 Might as well make raffle with a list composed of users you favored ..
Aha, the users who voted for you at the provider poll!
And if you really care about my previous records, I'm glad to show my host hatch account here to illustrate I really cares about the ToS. Through it is a little off topic.
Anyway, It’s not nice to prejudge a person.
Its hard for me to believe this, as his bf plans are still in stock , and you can buy anniversary deal which can be attached hdd till 10TB, and this had been said more than 100 times on this forum or his bf thread sale. So its hard to believe you needed JUST 1-2TB VPS. SO there is something at play here..
You care sooo much about ToS that you didn't bother to make a ticket with @labze to confirm if account transfer is okay while ToS page was unreachable?
It’s a little off-topic though, but to help you trust me a bit more, I’ll show you my HostHatch billing to illustrate that I really only need 1–2 TB.
As I said, I’m in the process of building a garage cluster. And it’s unnecessary to go over 2 TB currently.
😆he should reply to your comment i really want to know what he will say,
very funny
I'm pretty sure Hostbrr doesn't charge a transfer fee, so if the service transfer had been done normally then the OP would still have their service and this thread wouldn't have ever been written.
I care about ToS to a reasonable extent, but that does not mean I am expected to know every term from every provider. Especially when the provider made an obvious mistake on the main page, it is unreasonable to assume customers should somehow infer hidden or missing terms on their own.
My intention in uploading those screenshots was to show that I am open to communication and that I have a record of complying with the rules.
Ignorance is now a "reasonable extent" lol
Yeah, so open that no ticket was made to clarify ToS clauses due to unreachable ToS page xD
No, my point is that customers can only reasonably follow terms that are actually visible and accessible to them. If a provider failed to properly display or communicate a rule, it is unfair to assume every customer should magically know it in advance.
You are saying it like account transfers are so much popular to be allowed amongst provider