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Oh dear, I do get criticism, yet criticism is not sending out mails to 3'rd party suppliers of a provider. For that you need intent, and that if not justified falls under harassment.
Did you send out mails to your utility suppliers because they are asholes? or to the international court because your gov is an ashore? - se my point?
criticism is a bad review on a forum/media channel, you have that option, you can even open one each day, heck, you can open a criticism thread dedicated to one provider alone and have your way there.
I even indulge such things, so feel free to explore that option and let the folks reading that thread make up their mind.
Taking action above that is a direct engagement, and that is played on a whole nother level, and there rules are different then on a forum.
At some point I wish for jar to apologize, but it might be hard for him to do so especially given what he has done. Its definitely tough for jar but my comment just wanted to say that MXRoute might genuinely die if this continues on happening without any response from jar. He needs to put aside his ego and solve the issue rather than botting some comemnts on the reddit thread or similar and apologize genuinely to wyvern and just try to have a good discussion between the two even with the history, but if both treat the other as human I feel like some point of mutual agreement/hope can occur.
Ultimately its up in the hands of jar, if he wants to reach an amicable agreement, I feel like he can and if he doesn't, then I suppose that's that but I just wanted to reflect that he still can just try his best but even this last moment of him is slipping by as he continues on being the same way.
As an outsider its sad to see all of this because I liked MXRoute and it was MXRoute that I knew before I knew about Lowendtalk. I don't wish for jar to lose all the sweat and tears of his product for this brutal end but I feel like its inevitable until he does something genuine about it. I just wish if he can reflect on all of this and just think about what went wrong and what he can do better.
I think I know an alleged PR manager...
Nothing of value lost, lol. Just a guy with autism and social incompetence beyond measuring. He is passive aggressively shit talking everyone he does not like. Full on "did you just assume my gender" style rage if your oppinion does not match his god given wisdom. If you dare to criticise his "company" he goes full Hitler mode and tries to suppress everything / censor you.
Eller pølse?
Crazy twist to the drama if he got fired for this and jar forgives him and hires him
You have the sequence of events wrong. The criticism happened before:
That's all. But you're painting it as if Wyvern criticized jar and then tried to deplatform him when he didn't heed his criticism.
I like pølse more but I have to disagree because it’s danish
Hi AlteredParadox -- Fantastic! Your drama allocation has been doubled.
We're delighted you picked LET for your drama needs.
THIS! If someone wants to hire me, I am open for hire for PR
Only costs just a few bilohbucks and some french fries! /jk
(Also if any provider is using this, please for everything that is holy, do not use AI for PR, as that is the worst PR that you can get, might as well stay silent rather than using AI.)
If my utility company starts using my name to sell services without permission at the same time as insulting me, yes, I would probably file complaints with the government regulator and they'd probably actually do something about that because that would be crazy.
Jar crossed the line when he tried to monetize this whole situation against my express wishes. I don't see why you think an attack sale was acceptable, but it raises questions about your judgement.
It should be obvious that I am exactly the kind of too-much-time person who calls my elected officials about things :P
By page 100, it feels like more corpo/legal speak and the casual talk shift towards certain direction
https://lowendtalk.com/profile/comments/jar?page=p100
This is where the notice become more noticeable
https://lowendtalk.com/profile/comments/jar?page=p50
Oh well, you see how he has changed, his personality, his writing style, etc
https://lowendtalk.com/profile/comments/jar?page=p25
Considering his comment on top tech CEO, I think that's another factor why he sounds irritable
Nah I am from India my friend.
In hindi it is, "(bhai) Jo ho gya, ho gya, ab aage ki dekho"
"(Brother) Whatever happened, happened, now lets think about the future"
We also have another saying, "Jo hota hai acche ke liye hota hai" ie. "Everything that happens, happens for good", so perhaps it can be applicable here too if MXRoute tries to learn from all of this and tries to genuinely improve themselves learning from all of this controversy.
the “arguments” and “clichés” from all sides are being repeated more and more here. it seems like everything has already been said, and the repetitions don't make things any better—in fact, they're just boring.
@sh97 your indian brudda has arrived
I’ve watched The Bridge - its all the same
Shit, you're right. We need to create some new drama.
I guess many languages have similar expressions. Must be a reason…
MXRoute drama was not on my bingo card this year.
I guess its similar to the golden rule,"Treat other people the way you wish to be treated"
You guys I made a thing to solve all the drama.
I could probably come up with a list of things I'd like to see if Jar is genuinely interested in fixing the problematic behavior myself and other community members have flagged. Off the top of my head, and including already some good community suggestions from others:
There might be others, but the point is that there are things Jar COULD do if he wanted to try to fix the situation and restore community faith in him.
I start to believe Jar is getting support from some people here just because they have great deal from MXRoute for long time.
So his brand/product is acting as shield for him.
If he was some average LET host (instead of email delivery business) he would got impaled already.
Dear masochists: You are hereby exempt from this rule.
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Oh absolutely. Even a hint that a random host behaved like this would lead to them being obliterated. Meanwhile, we have people here literally equating criticizing jar on LET to inflicting violence on him and defending doxing because there isn't enough hard evidence that it completely meets the legal definition of doxing.
You can even customize the bla bla bla!
The best part is that he has no idea that I actually said bla bla bla. Joke's on him, I can get around the filter that way!
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To confuse the enemy you must confuse yourself first
-Sun tzu, art of war.