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JasonM · April 8

Just went through Jarland's all reviews. first time in my life I have read such trustpilot reviews from a Provider on his individual/business customers' trustpilot pages.

suppose I am a small business, buys email plan from MxRoute. Send some spam or just voilation of T&C. Jar sees it. Closes my account. Goes to Trustpilot, find my business name or my employer's name. Write a one star/bad review about how I spammed his service or voilated T&C.

such a mean minded person.

Tomorrow I buy email from AWS/Godaddy/IONOS, spams it, get my account closed. I don't expect AWS/Godaddy/IONOS CEO or Owner/Chairman hunting down my business on trustpilot and write a review how I spammed their system. It's not meaningful. It's useless and even unjustificable.

It's better Jar and MxRoute kicked themselves out from LET. I think such personality and companies should kick themselves off from doing business altogether.

JasonM · April 8

wow more to read on Reddit about it. When i searched MxRoute Scam, this page is listed first

forest · April 8

I haven't even checked, but is it true that they don't even have a privacy policy?

cybertech · April 8

guys whatever you wanna do (to jar) dont crash MXR.

i still have a lifetime service with them i intend to use 🙏🏻

hyperblast · April 8

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

forest · April 8

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

You really hate the left huh?

For the record, I'm neither left nor right. I'm a civil libertarian.

A/I (Autistici/Inventati, pronounced [au’tistiʧi]-[iŋ’vɛntati], or [iŋvɛn’tati]) was born in 2001 from an encounter of individuals and collectives of the autonomous anticapitalist movement interested in technology and active in the digital rights struggle. We believe that this world is far from being the best world possible. We react by providing a platform and tools for digital self-defense addressing the need of free communication for activists and other individuals.

This is a terrorist group? Anticapitalism is terrorism now?

buzzyLET · April 8

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

lol, news to me that autistici.org, riseup, disroot etc are "terrorists"

hyperblast · April 8

@forest said: You really hate the left huh?

i hate them all, and some in particular.

Kyz · April 8

@JasonM said:
It's better Jar and MxRoute kicked themselves out from LET. I think such personality and companies should kick themselves off from doing business altogether.

and that's also a worst way to go out, ruined his reputation here as well, considering he's been in this forum for 14 years

forest · April 8

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: You really hate the left huh?

i hate them all, and some in particular.

I think both the institutional left and institutional right are full of it.

gleepdorf · April 8

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

Dweeb alert

hyperblast · April 8

@buzzyLET said:

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

lol, news to me that autistici.org, riseup, disroot etc are "terrorists"

you, too, are allowed to learn something new every day.

forest · April 8

@hyperblast said:

@buzzyLET said:

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

lol, news to me that autistici.org, riseup, disroot etc are "terrorists"

you, too, are allowed to learn something new every day.

[citation needed]

But I get it. You hate free speech, privacy, and anonymity, and you hate groups that are opposed to large nanny state governments. It almost sounds like you align with the institutional left, doesn't it?

skimply153 · April 8

Welcome! It's page 24. We are talking about Capitalism Vs Socialism now.

AlteredParadox · April 8

... so... deals?

Levi · April 8

24 pages of sleuth without man accused being in present. Is this new low for let?

hyperblast · April 8

@forest said:

@hyperblast said:

@buzzyLET said:

@hyperblast said:

@forest said: I use autistici.org for non-business activities, but, like Riseup, you have to agree with their political stance and not use their service for commercial activities. But they're solid and have been around for something like 15+ years.

that says a lot about you, especially your mindset, and one could even draw conclusions (a bit of a stretch,iI know) about your behavior. i would never entrust my emails to left-wing terrorist groups either.

lol, news to me that autistici.org, riseup, disroot etc are "terrorists"

you, too, are allowed to learn something new every day.

[citation needed]

But I get it. You hate free speech, privacy, and anonymity, and you hate groups that are opposed to large nanny state governments. It almost sounds like you align with the institutional left, doesn't it?

you're responding even though no one addressed you. are you upset or something?

forest · April 8

@AlteredParadox said:
... so... deals?

72 CPU dual-socket dedicated server
256 GB DDR5 ECC memory
32 TB RAID10 NVMe
Dual 10 Gbps ports (unmetered bandwidth) and a complimentary /24
4x RTX 6000 Pro GPUs
$0.01/yr
No IPv6

forest · April 8

@Levi said:
24 pages of sleuth without man accused being in present. Is this new low for let?

I think the low was a provider doxing someone and trying to get them fired.

rpqu · April 8

@AlteredParadox said:
... so... deals?

Sadly no. We probably have to digest the free speech, rule of law, etc

forest · April 8

@rpqu said:

@AlteredParadox said:
... so... deals?

Sadly no. We probably have to digest the free speech, rule of law, etc

Nah I'm done falling for the bait.

Fubukibox · April 8

ah.... this thread is falling apart....

Levi · April 8

@forest said:

@Levi said:
24 pages of sleuth without man accused being in present. Is this new low for let?

I think the low was a provider doxing someone and trying to get them fired.

Isn’t doxing is all about publication of private data to mock and slander?

He hunted down alleged bad person and tried to inflict damage. It is more like persecution, not doxing by the book. Not to minify the psycho episode, but it is not doxing.

Is there anything we can do more, besides those two going to court to settle?

forest · April 8

@Levi said: He hunted down alleged bad person and tried to inflict damage. It is more like persecution, not doxing by the book. Not to minify the psycho episode, but it is not doxing.

I think tracking down someone and figuring out who is behind their alias and then publishing their information in revenge for reporting them for a ToS violation is doxing. Even if it's not legally doxing, it's close enough that that's a useful word to use.

@Levi said: Is there anything we can do more, besides those two going to court to settle?

I don't know. They definitely won't go to court, although jar has been hinting that he "should" (knowing that he absolutely has more financial resources). Most likely this will only end when one of the two decide to end it.

JasonM · April 8

@Levi said: Is there anything we can do more, besides those two going to court to settle?

IDK OP will approach court. He might once again send takedown notice to Hetzner.

forest · April 8

@JasonM said:

@Levi said: Is there anything we can do more, besides those two going to court to settle?

IDK OP will approach court. He might once again send takedown notice to Hetzner.

I haven't read Hetzner's ToS so I just assume that harassment is against it, but if it is, isn't that a legitimate action?

WyvernCo made the mistake of using the wrong legal argument by saying it was a trademark infringement when he could have just pointed to the ToS, but I don't think that really changes anything.

hyperblast · April 8

@forest said:

@AlteredParadox said:
... so... deals?

72 CPU dual-socket dedicated server
256 GB DDR5 ECC memory
32 TB RAID10 NVMe
Dual 10 Gbps ports (unmetered bandwidth) and a complimentary /24
4x RTX 6000 Pro GPUs
$0.01/yr
No IPv6

yabs first!

rpqu · April 8

@forest said:

@JasonM said:

@Levi said: Is there anything we can do more, besides those two going to court to settle?

IDK OP will approach court. He might once again send takedown notice to Hetzner.

WyvernCo made the mistake of using the wrong legal argument by saying it was a trademark infringement when he could have just pointed to the ToS, but I don't think that really changes anything.

That would increase the chance of Hetzner taking action, since it's not probable case of trademark infringement. But something within their jurisdiction, ToS violation.

Void · April 8

@emgh said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@emgh said:

@MaxTakeba said: That still needs a "please explain."

what do you mean

How does a meme get you a severe warning?
Yet there are users who post in bad faith, constantly flame and they get away with it.

Somebody please explain the standards here lol.

oles liked hetzner, i think he got a special deal or something for his free vps project, and so he wanted to be their knight in shining armor and used his moderation power to warn me for posting a meme about hetzner

Can you post that meme again, now that he is no longer in a position to warn anyone?

Levi · April 8

@Void said:

@emgh said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@emgh said:

@MaxTakeba said: That still needs a "please explain."

what do you mean

How does a meme get you a severe warning?
Yet there are users who post in bad faith, constantly flame and they get away with it.

Somebody please explain the standards here lol.

oles liked hetzner, i think he got a special deal or something for his free vps project, and so he wanted to be their knight in shining armor and used his moderation power to warn me for posting a meme about hetzner

Can you post that meme again, now that he is no longer in a position to warn anyone?

He still has connections. So be aware.

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