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Lol
Or he's just cancelling all the deals that were sold on LET threads. I don't think he needs to attach account info from LET to account info on VeloxMedia to be able to look through his services for sales titled "LET megathread 2025 promo" or something.
@Saragoldfarb and a few others
Do you really still believe that basically spamming this thread and vaguely threatening will somehow magically achieve to make Eric do as you wish?
Sorry but this whole clusterfuck gets increasingly ridiculous.
Mark my words: you will not succeed. Eric will continue to do as he sees fit!
And frankly, I can't disagree with him. Yes, even if I'd lose my VPS, which remember, Eric at least so far provides for free!
I have proof he does.
Heres a real invoice number of a host present here on LET
Do something. GO
No I don't.... But if you come knocking down my door, steal my money... I'm not gonna let you walk.
Double bandwidth please!
Can you send them out a little faster? My chargeback window closes soon.
I'd hate to file a chargeback prior to receiving an official notification and be accused of fraud by a fine company such as yourself, you know.
It would take too long to cite every post where you talked about this. One such example is here: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4709557/#Comment_4709557
You said that you flagged every user who didn't notify you about chargebacks as fraudulent.
But in any case, as I made clear in big capital letters, what you did in the past isn't important. I'm asking what you are going to do with the people who chargeback after you cancel their services, given that you have just told them to chargeback.
It's not a trick question, I just want to hear that tell us that you are not going to punish anybody who leaves.
Because as you previously made clear, you have been flagging these chargebacks as fraud, even though you don't think their you're customers, and even after you asked them to charge back, seemingly just because you want to cause trouble for the customers. https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4709504/#Comment_4709504
So for the sixth time, a simple yes or no is sufficient.
NOT WHAT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE, in around a week's time after you have cancelled all of the LET users who bought while Lewis was selling, and who you don't consider customers. When you cancel their services, a significant number will probably chargeback due to the cancelled contract with Lewis. In fact, you have just advised them to do so.
You have previously stated that you have an automatic script that flags EVERY chargeback as fraud if they haven't notified you beforehand. WILL YOU flag all of those chargebacks as fraud?
A simple yes or no is sufficient.
What are you talking about? what proof? lets see it. Why just state random things without proof.
Everything is labelled where its purchased from
Just read back your own post and you'll piece it together.
pop a ticket requesting your data being deleted. problem solved
As a client... Just wondering how you obtained my data in the first place?
no i've stated how this works dozens of times
But that puts my server termination on myself. Big difference of being customer-requested termination and provider-forced termination. There's a huge difference there.
I signed up for a multi year agreement. If I requested termination early, I wouldn't expect a refund. If a provider pushed me out, I would.
then wait for your cancellation email
Please do not cancel everyone. I am happy with the service I have and would rather not lose it without refund, and @jsg is as well.
Or, you can stop dangling your "non"-customers and be upfront and timely with what you're doing. If you're going to cancel us, then cancel us. Give us the notification so we can file proper and timely chargebacks and move on with our lives.
It shouldn't be up to how Eric is feeling that day.
Again, what DC?
And yet it is. I've made this 100% clear since day one.
Are you in the EU/UK? We're only required to notify/delete those within 30 days.
California
Where in CA? Just so I can check it out before ordering?
For what it's worth, I initially looked at this and thought that Eric deserved some praise for at least partially complying with the law for the first time in this thread. And then I re-read this, and realised that he doesn't once mention GDPR. This isn't actually the reason why he's sending this out. It's not about complying with the law, it's about ditching the customers he always wanted to ditch.
There will be a lot of people who suffer from this, unable to get a refund at all, because chargebacks are only an option for a subset of users who paid by credit card or paypal.
I hope that this is actually being sent to every customer brought over from Lewis' company, because there would be many other EU and UK citizens as pre-existing customers, and he will not be fulfilling his obligations under GDPR legislation until he has informed them of the transfer of their PII to his new company and asked them to accept the new conditions. This is a necessary requirement because he has stated that these are Lewis' customers and not his, and so this transfer of PII requires consent because that transfer of PII was not permitted by the previous privacy policy.
By only deleting purchasers of the deals advertised on LET, it is clear that he is actually just implementing the plans he first described back on December 23rd on his 5th post while in control of the LET account:
and further elaborated on an hour or so later:
He has done the exact thing he was planning to do 3 weeks ago - cancel every service that he believes was sold at too low a price (arguing that they are not customers), while retaining every customer of a service that was sold at a price where he can make a profit. These are somehow still his customers.
This is the outcome he always wanted. The only thing dragging this out for 3 weeks has achieved is trying to make it look like he was forced into this. He wasn't, this was very clearly his intention all along.
And along the way, he has filed false fraud claims against any customers leaving via chargeback, despite him actually telling people that was what they should do. He also insisted that they were not his customers, and yet found it necessary to flag transactions that he was therefore not party to as fraudulent.
Even now, after telling everybody their services will be cancelled, after six times of asking the simple YES/NO question of whether he will file fraud claims against everyone whose service has just been cancelled, and he's told to chargeback. His reply "no i've stated how this works dozens of times" (https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4711166/#Comment_4711166) For refence, that question directly quoted in line two of the many cases where he has described how the flags people for fraud if they don't contact him, even though they aren't his customers.
That's right, even after giving people the boot, he still wants to cause those customers pain when they try to get their money back unless they crawl up to him and beg permission to leave. These are people he has stated over and over that he doesn't believe to be his customers.
So, in summary so far:
I guess it's time to summon @DP, @angstrom and maybe @jbiloh given that this was a very targeted attack solely against people who bought the deals advertised on LET.
I would also suggest that everybody starts their chargeback as soon as possible, if your purchase method permits, using his announcement as justification. That's really exactly what he always wanted, especially if Lewis will be footing the bill for these refunds, but if your service will be terminated anyway, probably sooner rather than later will work out best for you.
@DP @angstrom @jbiloh
The exit scam is coming into fruition.
As pissed as I am about the whole situation, I still don't think it's an exit scam per se, even if the effective result is identical. That is, I don't think he would have deleted all the LET servers if he wasn't goaded into doing so by people "daring" him to do it. Still a scummy situation, but I don't believe it was intended from the start. That's my only nitpick. Still need mods to weigh in on the situation, of course.
an exit scam with extra steps
We're not accepting orders for that DC as we're closing it down
Where's your own dc then?
What's the problem with GDPR?
Go back and read his posts from December 23. This was always his plan. I guess I was just naive thinking he might be convinced to do the decent thing.
Also, I can't help but wonder whether it was even worth it for him. Obviously, it does sound expensive providing those services, but given his reason for cutting all the servers was that they were really cheap, and it sounds like $80 was the maximum anyone had and the majority were a few dollars, refunding the customers you cancelled just seems like the cost of doing business and not coming out with a tarnished reputation. Certainly nobody they've screwed over is likely to ever buy anything from any company even slightly related to this douchbag ever again, and word gets around.
I guess we'll never know if Lewis is just someone who made some bad choices and got massively screwed over in this, or whether he was complicit - after all if a significant chunk of people paid by crypto they can't easily get their money back, so he might still be better off in this scenario than before selling all those packages over BF and pocketing the cash and running.