Velox media under new management

ralf · January 9

@barbarza said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@magicvpn said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@magicvpn said:
I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

Unless you provide a product or service... a VPS is exactly that... no?

We don't provide it. We just haven't discovered them to cancel them yet. We were waiting until their agreements expired then sell renewals as a customer. This solves all issues for everyone.

This is specifically why we haven't notified anyone, haven't updated the agreements or anything because it allows everyone to keep their service and us not assume any risk. Was a win win. We can continue to support and everything even.

But now we're going terminate or bill users monthly because we need to assume risk and we can't do that unless we're getting paid.

You're hosting people's accounts and data. Even if you're doing this for free, you're providing a service. Not that difficult a concept to grasp.

ralf · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@default said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:
@VeloxMedia - if @Saragoldfarb ordered something from your website and paid for that service, does this make @Saragoldfarb your customer now or not?

Yes they are our customer

Great. If this is the case, it means he has all the rights and privileges and obligations of a customer, while you have all the rights and privileges and obligations of a provider. This means he paid with his money and you will provide your service as part of the deal set between you two as per your website. Am I correct?

I still wish to know if in this case @Saragoldfarb is his customer because he paid. I wish to know if an account which paid at VeloxMedia.co.uk can therefore be defined as customer or not in @VeloxMedia view, and if therefore can enjoy the service or not as per the terms and deal established on their website.

Information like this is highly important, not to generate confusion, because we are not his customers in his view. I wish to distinguish if payment offers any rights to enjoy services as per website terms and deals.

Yes 100% haven't I answered this multiple times. When someone purchased services they become a customer of Velox Media inc and everything. All services and everything is perfectly fine, compliant and everything.

We even responded on here to his post thanking him.

As stated multiple times, any service purchased or renewed after 12/21 is a customer of ours. We have a bunch of them. We are reviewing some orders/renewals manually just to catch any crazy deals that might be stuck in the system as we are still cleaning things up.

But she bought a new server yesterday, that you charged her twice for, and became your first new customer. She was so excited about her purchase that she posted the invoice here and then for some reason you deleted the server. Honestly, I don't understand your motivations for doing that, but you lost your first and only customer. So sad.

She then bought another new server today from you, desperate to be back in your gang, and despite her disappointment at again being double billed after you yesterday assured her that this was impossible. Nonetheless, she was so excited to be back in the exclusive club of 1 customer, she shared her new invoice again and even a YABS of the server, showing what a terrific value her new server was, even if she did pay double the advertised price. I can't comprehend why you want to get rid of her again. She's literally your most loyal customer today, and 100% of your revenue with your new company. In my eyes, that deserves a celebration, not nastiness.

She tried renewed the service she already had. We have over 100 customers already.

And are they all paying Lewis' stripe rather than yours? That sounds like something you should get sorted quickly. Who knows how many $4 you'll be missing out on.

whynotlearn · January 9

@ralf said:

@whynotlearn said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@whynotlearn said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@barbaros said:
@VeloxMedia I doubt, you have more than 50 IQ in total. Maybe your 'whole' company has 100 IQ or something.

You were meant to do 2 things:

1-) Announce people that you are the new owner of the company, officially, to all clients via email.

2-) Spend whole month, with your colleagues or whatever and list every single server and deal that is direct deadpool deal. Make a whole list, take your time.

Send an email, tell people that you will cancel their server in 30 days and refund them the remaining amount. Or they can switch to a newer plan with proper charge.

Naturally, you will say that 'but I don't want to foot the bill for refunding for all these people' and you are right. Thats what proves that you are 50 IQ guy, buying a company without checking all the customers and deals and seeing if it would actually make you earn any money or lose more money.

You are just trying to evade this part as saying, 'you were not my customers you were previous owner's customer'. Which no one cares.

At least hire some people that knows what they are doing.

Also to the other people in this thread, you are an idiot if you still keep your servers active and think all will be fine with this provider. Because apparently, it wont.

Or we're incredibly smart and didn't buy the company or any of its liabilities. All those remain with the previous owner like we constantly keep stating. Because we have proper legal counsel and understand the laws.

Why isn't this a smart move?

I am not a lawyer (IANAL) but here I go, I talk about it:

There wasn't any company previously, it was a sole proprietorship and in cases like this, there have to be notarization (or so I saw written around the 40-ith page, I didnt read the 40 pages in the middle, this drama is way too streched)

You didn't provide the notarization or any mechanism and I would constitute that the govt has laws in place against people switching hands and the liability magically disappearing.

You have changed veloxmedia's payment processing to you and someone mentioned here long ago that this is all it takes and the liabilities are with you

You have the liabilities, you will be sued.

Also to be honest, I have said this multiple times but why would you accept the deal of buying velox media in the first place, did you not know that it was all unsustainable, bro lewis even mentioned it in his reddit post that its unprofitable.

You now want to seek profit in short term and cut servers effectively dead pooling but you didnt read the law or (did you even consult a lawyer?) about the transaction. I think you are in some serious legal trouble.

Yeah it's obvious you're not a lawyer. That isn't how it works. I didn't buy the company

Law decides how it works and thanks for being rude for no apparent reason but I am pretty sure that law will come to bite you. You should be worried not only by let but also the law.

Lawyers themselves here (ralf most likely) said that you are gonna pay upto 4% or maybe even more , so yeah.

This still doesn't change the fact that you are in some high legal troubles.

Nope, I'm not a lawyer. I just know the data protection laws quite well.

Oh okay gotcha, so just to be clear, they are still in legal trouble correct?

How come they say to me that they arent in legal trouble, I feel as if this is a coverup or they themselves dont know the full extent of damage, what are your thoughts on it?

jsg · January 9

So much "that's illegal!" in this thread.

Did anyone actually sue Eric and/or @VeloxMedia yet? I guess I don't need to hold my breath ...

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@barbaros said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
But let's get back to the unauthorized card charge @VeloxMedia

You purchased a server then used the server and even posted images proving you were using the service you purchased. You entered the credit card info and approved the purchase.

You're very confused here.

I don't know why you feel you are entitled to a free service that has a price and you ordered. You literally clicked place order with the amount and authorized it yourself.

We didn't have any credit card info, you entered this in yourself

This is my invoice:

Invoice Items

LDN-Micro - V.YUR.MOM (01/09/2026 - 02/08/2026) $5.00USD

Sub Total: $5.00USD
Credit: $5.00USD
Total: $0.00USD

Then why illegally charge my card?

Sara, no need to drag this any further. File a chargeback. State that this transaction was not authorized.

Show them the invoice as proof of payment.

Then let whatever the fuck Velox guy's name is to explain the bank or payment processor that the credit on your account was supposed to be from the previous company owner and now he bought the company and those credits doesnt count. Aka, a long bullshit that the payment processor won't care.

Bonus parts: It's new Velox guy's dude stripe, which will take the hit. Also he will have to pay the chargeback fee just for that 5 bucks transaction.

Even if he gives you a proper explanation, apologizes or whatever no one should be customer of that new velox dude.

You do realize he literally posted screenshots of him using the service on here right and bragging how fast and good it was.

Stripe authorization is inside and separate so he literally clicked accept order for the charge on their site, not ours. This is how payment processing works. If he was able to apply the credit he wouldn't need to put a credit card number in. He literally did this yesterday and we denied it.

No you didn't. I've posted the proof before.

@whynotlearn said:

@default said:
This drama passed 100 pages?! Wow! It might need a TL;DR presentation movie done by @raindog308 at this point.

I will try to create a script in my free time which might be rare with just all the tldr and the comment number and create a html page just for this, sounds interesting idea. might tinker with it but I am happy if someone else wants to do this too.

This situation feels so confusing to an outsider (I didnt buy any velox server) i cant imagine the people who bought velox must feel now. I am new to let but this feels like one of the most complicated/long threads with a recurring theme which isnt some giveaway or something.

This whole situation just feels so complicated.

I can donate another VeloxMedia server if you need hosting.

tfgp99 · January 9

Back after an huge outage and partially resolved, working tomorrow.

So TLDR?

VeloxMedia · January 9

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

Where's my credit and why did you charge my card?

network · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

VeloxMedia · January 9

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

What PII?

Please show and link the exact post where she did this?

There's multiple of them. I'm not posting links to where you can find the violations but just look on this feed for his posts about our discord links

tfgp99 · January 9

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

Where's my credit and why did you charge my card?

Card is still saved? oh damn

tfgp99 · January 9

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

Shutting down even without any consent. Good job @VeloxMedia

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@barbarza said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Pink Dino has an Android 😍

network · January 9

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

Shutting down even without any consent. Good job @VeloxMedia

Shut down, not terminate, if he doesn't want to email.

MaxTakeba · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

What PII?

Please show and link the exact post where she did this?

There's multiple of them. I'm not posting links to where you can find the violations but just look on this feed for his posts about our discord links

So you won't provide proof to the baseless accusation. Right.

Also last time I checked... Dumping a public discord server does not constitute for PII.

I work at a FinTech company and I know what PII is. I am ex Telco and I was taught PII too.

So I'll ask this one last time. Please show me the PII. Thanks.

ralf · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

What PII?

Please show and link the exact post where she did this?

There's multiple of them. I'm not posting links to where you can find the violations but just look on this feed for his posts about our discord links

Just looked. I couldn't find them.

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@whynotlearn said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@whynotlearn said:
okay wtf

Firstly velox has gdpr violations and so many other legal violations that people are concerned about who/how the data is handled and if laws are followed (which aren't from what I can tell)

Secondly, from the people who tldr'd me (default and I think ralf, thank you for helping me understand the summary again)

But holy shit, all let customers were sank down? Someone created a new thread about it we will see how it goes

Secondly, I don't understand how velox charged sarah again or that situation after my comment.

From my understanding, she was happy with the service for some apparent reason (I feel like it was sunk cost fallacy sarah)

The company's reputation is beyond tarnished at this point, one can probably find other cheap deals as well. I am not sure why sarah would get a vps again.

Did she have credit when lewis had the server and she used that to buy it but somehow she got charged by credit card. I know its 5$ but its highly shady. Atleast good that she didnt do it with like a big server cost

I am not affiliated with velox but are you guys not worried about how the credit card data is stored? When I was active on this page around 40-th page, people were worried about it

Also eric, buddy, people repeatedly asked you inclduing me to get a lawyer and seek help regarding the matter and how you can unbuy velox media. This is assuming that you aren't scamming and are well intentioned but the only person who won in this is lewis scamming you

If you still can, get yourself a lawyer and find if you can do something against eric. Because your company is a financial and legal mess which I or other people wont be able to trust with a 10 feet pole. Your reputation's tarnished sadly and I will tell you just to cut your losses and contact a lawyer

I asked you something 40 threads ago and its okay if it got lost, but did you know of the massively cheap deals that lewis had given which were gonna bite you back, how did you meet him (on reddit?) and how much did you invest and all the major events from your pov and contact a lawyer as well.

You cut off LET customers and basically rug pulled them. I am sorry if I sound harsh but that's because what you did was wrong and unfair to them, they gave you chances and you messed it up.

Now some will do gdpr violations against you and sue you and take legal action.

All because you invested into a company or bought it (from my understanding) with no background report on if it was sustainable and what etc., people from the first comment were suspicious that the let deals were over and in the end they were proven right. People were optimisitc and wanted to give you chance but you crushed that too

Why did oyu even buy it from lewis???? Lewis from unprofitable and you became the scapegoat and this is literally scamming, lewis sold cheap unprofitable unsustainable tehn sold it to you and you then cut off those deals while somehow having so much mystery shrouding it that more than 2000 comments or something idk have been made.

This thread is probably gonna go in some niche corner of history on the internet now until a youtuber picks it up someday lol

Such levels of controversy generation might as well go down in the best ways of ruining businesses.

I am sorry for those who had invested around 300$ or so or more. People on that other thread mention chargeback as a valid option.

This whole situation is really sad imo and could've been preventable in multiple stages but now I feel like its at a stage of no return sadly

What other thread?

https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/213553/will-veloxmedia-continue-operating#latest

Thank you

tfgp99 · January 9

@network said:

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

Shutting down even without any consent. Good job @VeloxMedia

Shut down, not terminate, if he doesn't want to email.

I know, customers paid for a 24/7 service, provider needs to inform that it will shut down.

VeloxMedia · January 9

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@magicvpn said:
I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:
@VeloxMedia you, Eric from US, do you need to be GDPR compliant in your own country? Or the law just applies just in your favor?

We only need to be compliant if we provide goods or services to the data subjects. Below is the law right from their site. We're not providing goods or services as we just haven't deleted the data yet.

The law is crystal clear on this

https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

And as I explained yesterday, this section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I would explain, but I've given you free advice. If you want more my day rate is $1500.

Please explain how the other site is GDPR complaint. That's the question.

Do you want to send me over a work order? $1500 per day. And given how sketchy you seem, that'll be $1500 before the work takes place.

But again, I'll remind you. This section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?

Good luck with that.

Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.

Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.

Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?

I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.

Since you offered your services, again I ask do you have a law degree?

I do not, but I have worked on compliance with data protection long enough to know unequivocally that your lawyers are wrong.

Like I said, take my free advice - you need to get some time with a lawyer who's actually familiar with the GDPR. If you rely on your lawyer's bad advice, it's going to cost you dearly.

You are very keen to keep posting recital 23 as your reason for non-compliance. I will tell you for free, categorically, that under recital 23, you would fall under the regulations.

But as to your question, no I do not have a law degree. If I did, my day rate would be significantly higher than $1500.

Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

But I'm sure @Saragoldfarb would love some info. Why won't you explain to us about this clear violation of all our data?

Calypso · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

Because LET still hasn't restored our tag and hasn't properly responded to why it's suspended or the proper steps to restore we will not be offering services here or promos. We will be supporting all other sites with major deals.

@VeloxMedia said:
I agree this thread should be closed and our account on here isn't going to be used anymore anyways.

I guess it's very difficult to keep track of all the different personalities one has...

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:

@default said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@default said:
@VeloxMedia - if @Saragoldfarb ordered something from your website and paid for that service, does this make @Saragoldfarb your customer now or not?

Yes they are our customer

Great. If this is the case, it means he has all the rights and privileges and obligations of a customer, while you have all the rights and privileges and obligations of a provider. This means he paid with his money and you will provide your service as part of the deal set between you two as per your website. Am I correct?

I still wish to know if in this case @Saragoldfarb is his customer because he paid. I wish to know if an account which paid at VeloxMedia.co.uk can therefore be defined as customer or not in @VeloxMedia view, and if therefore can enjoy the service or not as per the terms and deal established on their website.

Information like this is highly important, not to generate confusion, because we are not his customers in his view. I wish to distinguish if payment offers any rights to enjoy services as per website terms and deals.

Yes 100% haven't I answered this multiple times. When someone purchased services they become a customer of Velox Media inc and everything. All services and everything is perfectly fine, compliant and everything.

We even responded on here to his post thanking him.

As stated multiple times, any service purchased or renewed after 12/21 is a customer of ours. We have a bunch of them. We are reviewing some orders/renewals manually just to catch any crazy deals that might be stuck in the system as we are still cleaning things up.

But she bought a new server yesterday, that you charged her twice for, and became your first new customer. She was so excited about her purchase that she posted the invoice here and then for some reason you deleted the server. Honestly, I don't understand your motivations for doing that, but you lost your first and only customer. So sad.

She then bought another new server today from you, desperate to be back in your gang, and despite her disappointment at again being double billed after you yesterday assured her that this was impossible. Nonetheless, she was so excited to be back in the exclusive club of 1 customer, she shared her new invoice again and even a YABS of the server, showing what a terrific value her new server was, even if she did pay double the advertised price. I can't comprehend why you want to get rid of her again. She's literally your most loyal customer today, and 100% of your revenue with your new company. In my eyes, that deserves a celebration, not nastiness.

She tried renewed the service she already had. We have over 100 customers already.

And are they all paying Lewis' stripe rather than yours? That sounds like something you should get sorted quickly. Who knows how many $4 you'll be missing out on.

Anyone can share who a cc/stripe payment went to before Eric took over? Dm will be fine...

network · January 9

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

Shutting down even without any consent. Good job @VeloxMedia

Shut down, not terminate, if he doesn't want to email.

I know, customers paid for a 24/7 service, provider needs to inform that it will shut down.

Customers paid Lewis according to him, he doesn't have any obligations and he's going to delete them all anyways as per his recent post.

tfgp99 · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@magicvpn said:
I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:
@VeloxMedia you, Eric from US, do you need to be GDPR compliant in your own country? Or the law just applies just in your favor?

We only need to be compliant if we provide goods or services to the data subjects. Below is the law right from their site. We're not providing goods or services as we just haven't deleted the data yet.

The law is crystal clear on this

https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

And as I explained yesterday, this section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I would explain, but I've given you free advice. If you want more my day rate is $1500.

Please explain how the other site is GDPR complaint. That's the question.

Do you want to send me over a work order? $1500 per day. And given how sketchy you seem, that'll be $1500 before the work takes place.

But again, I'll remind you. This section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?

Good luck with that.

Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.

Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.

Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?

I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.

Since you offered your services, again I ask do you have a law degree?

I do not, but I have worked on compliance with data protection long enough to know unequivocally that your lawyers are wrong.

Like I said, take my free advice - you need to get some time with a lawyer who's actually familiar with the GDPR. If you rely on your lawyer's bad advice, it's going to cost you dearly.

You are very keen to keep posting recital 23 as your reason for non-compliance. I will tell you for free, categorically, that under recital 23, you would fall under the regulations.

But as to your question, no I do not have a law degree. If I did, my day rate would be significantly higher than $1500.

Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

But I'm sure @Saragoldfarb would love some info. Why won't you explain to us about this clear violation of all our data?

Now it is convenient to 'attack' others with GDPR. I didn't seen any evidence from your side.

MaxTakeba · January 9

@tfgp99 said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@magicvpn said:
I missed 1.1k comments, but how did we get from telling people gdpr and all that stuff doesn't apply to crying about gdpr...?

Because how data privacy laws work in other countries. US doesn't need to comply with GDPR unless we provide a product or service. But since he's in EU/UK he has to comply regardless.

It's the difference between having a legal team that understands the law and people that Google the law.

@VeloxMedia said:

@tfgp99 said:
@VeloxMedia you, Eric from US, do you need to be GDPR compliant in your own country? Or the law just applies just in your favor?

We only need to be compliant if we provide goods or services to the data subjects. Below is the law right from their site. We're not providing goods or services as we just haven't deleted the data yet.

The law is crystal clear on this

https://gdpr.eu/Recital-23-Applicable-to-processors-not-established-in-the-Union-if-data-subjects-within-the-Union-are-targeted/

And as I explained yesterday, this section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I would explain, but I've given you free advice. If you want more my day rate is $1500.

Please explain how the other site is GDPR complaint. That's the question.

Do you want to send me over a work order? $1500 per day. And given how sketchy you seem, that'll be $1500 before the work takes place.

But again, I'll remind you. This section means the exact opposite to what you clearly believe it means.

I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?

Good luck with that.

Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.

Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.

Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?

I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.

Since you offered your services, again I ask do you have a law degree?

I do not, but I have worked on compliance with data protection long enough to know unequivocally that your lawyers are wrong.

Like I said, take my free advice - you need to get some time with a lawyer who's actually familiar with the GDPR. If you rely on your lawyer's bad advice, it's going to cost you dearly.

You are very keen to keep posting recital 23 as your reason for non-compliance. I will tell you for free, categorically, that under recital 23, you would fall under the regulations.

But as to your question, no I do not have a law degree. If I did, my day rate would be significantly higher than $1500.

Gotcha, I'll stick with my team of attorneys with law degrees who specialize in GDPR.

But I'm sure @Saragoldfarb would love some info. Why won't you explain to us about this clear violation of all our data?

Now it is convenient to 'attack' others with GDPR. I didn't seen any evidence from your side.

Man child behavior.

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@VeloxMedia said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

What PII?

Please show and link the exact post where she did this?

There's multiple of them. I'm not posting links to where you can find the violations but just look on this feed for his posts about our discord links

You can always request my host to take it down. Just dm @VeloxMedia . He can just open a ticked in his portal and request it.

barbarza · January 9

Everything that @VeloxMedia has posted is absolute crap, non-sensicle and even contradictory.

It is all scammer speak - making up excuses, challenging truths and delay tactics.

There is no multimillion dollar company. There are no extensive hardware networks or legal teams.

None of the actions that 'Eric' has taken make any sense, from taking over the VeloxMedia brand but not taking it over, having the customers but not wanting them, needing the original VeloxMedia infrastructure but having millions to spend on the project, etc etc.

It is just one person, we don't know who they really are but they have shown up as Eric, Lewis Tom and Andrew at least. I'm sure if you run all their posts through AI it will pick up consistencies proving this.

The first phase of the scam was obviously an exit scam. What the current phase is I'm not sure, but it's definitely still a scam.

Actions to take include charging back where possible, laying complaints with payment providers and regulatory authorities and warning all future potential customers of the scam. Further investigation into who the individual behind this all is would be great, but I'm not sure how much real information would surface.

tfgp99 · January 9

@network said:

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@tfgp99 said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@network said:

@VeloxMedia said: Why pay $1000 to the ISP for the ex-owners tenants? Not our problem.

But you are paying every day. That's the only reason preventing more chargebacks. And if you keep them on for 3-4 months more, Lewis will get away because the chargeback period will be over.

They should chargeback

Email them all. They are not reading this thread. Or shut down the servers so they know.

Shutting down even without any consent. Good job @VeloxMedia

Shut down, not terminate, if he doesn't want to email.

I know, customers paid for a 24/7 service, provider needs to inform that it will shut down.

Customers paid Lewis according to him, he doesn't have any obligations and he's going to delete them all anyways as per his recent post.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't do things the right way!

Saragoldfarb · January 9

@tfgp99 said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

Where's my credit and why did you charge my card?

Card is still saved? oh damn

Yes, so make sure to wipe your payment details.

Also watch out for automated PP subscriptions.

VeloxMedia · January 9

@jsg said:
So much "that's illegal!" in this thread.

Did anyone actually sue Eric and/or @VeloxMedia yet? I guess I don't need to hold my breath ...

Our info is fully posted as is our ICO registration. We keep asking for people to contact us to delete their data.

So if any issues they should file with us. But obviously no one has even talked to an actual attorney because they all would laugh as the law is clear. We have no agreement with Lewis's customers so you can't do anything to us.

You have 100x more of a case in suing LET because they facilitated the transaction by approving Lewis as a provider.

@ralf is too afraid to file with the ICO because he knows we're compliant

VeloxMedia · January 9

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@MaxTakeba said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@ralf said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@NotFoundException said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@VeloxMedia said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

Yes, they just took my money.

Yes. Thank you.

Also please ensure you're GDPR compliant as you took our PII data along with all our members when you scraped our discord and placed this on your "company" server without our permission. We will be filing a formal complaint

Oh, by the way, it's on a server with Lewis if that makes the complaint easier.

It doesn't. Again please state how you are GDPR compliant and obtained my PII along with our customers who are on here's data and are protecting their rights. Because you just posted it all publicly online for everyone to see which is a massive GDPR violation.

Again, days and days of people attacking me here and yet not a single person calling you out on this. Such a double standard.

Why is everyone else quiet on this? Is this not a violation or is it? @rpqu

Why are you still posting, after saying, that you will quit LET and delete everything multiple times. Why can’t you commit to anything? Were you drunk too much last night at the party you posted about on DC and now trying to correct it?

First off I don't drink.

Second we are still deleting LET accounts, haven't changed that. We'll likely give them the option to purchase service for a few $ a month if they want to continue based on feedback from customers. This way it isn't an exit scam and they can become customers. Meanwhile we're just deleting any customers who complain or cause issues as we find them. We're not in any rush.

You kind of are. You have 13 days before I report you to ICO for obtaining PII data illegally and then deliberately violating the GDPR regulations, despite confirming to ICO that you would process data responsibly.

You should. Are you going to do the same with @Saragoldfarb or am I just singled out?

Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.

I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.

Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?

Isn't this a massive breach?

What PII?

Please show and link the exact post where she did this?

There's multiple of them. I'm not posting links to where you can find the violations but just look on this feed for his posts about our discord links

Just looked. I couldn't find them.

@Saragoldfarb can you post the link to your discord dump?

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