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@VeloxMedia I doubt, you have more than 50 IQ in total. Maybe your 'whole' company has 100 IQ or something.
You were meant to do 2 things:
1-) Announce people that you are the new owner of the company, officially, to all clients via email.
2-) Spend whole month, with your colleagues or whatever and list every single server and deal that is direct deadpool deal. Make a whole list, take your time.
Send an email, tell people that you will cancel their server in 30 days and refund them the remaining amount. Or they can switch to a newer plan with proper charge.
Naturally, you will say that 'but I don't want to foot the bill for refunding for all these people' and you are right. Thats what proves that you are 50 IQ guy, buying a company without checking all the customers and deals and seeing if it would actually make you earn any money or lose more money.
You are just trying to evade this part as saying, 'you were not my customers you were previous owner's customer'. Which no one cares.
At least hire some people that knows what they are doing.
Also to the other people in this thread, you are an idiot if you still keep your servers active and think all will be fine with this provider. Because apparently, it wont.
Pardon me but that's emotion based, "the majority is right!", and, I'll put it very politely, perception based. I did not see him threatening us, I just saw someone pointing at an option. And he does have that option. Similarly it seems he does have the immunity you mentioned because - now pay attention! - his deal with Lewis seems to have been that Lewis can keep the payments, or in other words that Eric hosts us basically for free. And he clearly said that it wasn't about the money for him.
But that of course also means that eventual charge backs will hit Lewis and not Eric.
Btw, just assume for a moment that one of the problems with that deal (for Eric) was that he needed to somehow filter out a significant portion of unattractive deals and to get that done easily (not much effort) and as early as possible. Looking at Eric's behaviour with that in mind a lot makes sense.
And well noted it is Eric's right to filter. It may not seem nice but it's his right and it's done often and by many.
No! It is neither, it is about what really happened and about understanding. At least in my eyes.
Also: I asked a question - and you completely ignored it.
And finally, the way many of you played it made "us" lose and Eric "win", at least largely. The two main reasons IMO:
Well, "we" lost the fight. You lost it even though you seem to have an admin on your side and even if @VeloxMedia would lose their tag. Because you acted like a mindless herd (my intention is not to insult anyone!) and because you fought standing on a rug that didn't even need to be pulled away; it simply wasn't even existing to a large degree.
And Eric at least to a large degree won!
Why? Because, from what I see, he did very quickly learn how you tick and how you fight. Most of you however did not and still don't understand how Eric ticks, who is the strong one and who is the weak one. Most of you simply acted like a mindless herd without a plan, without even understanding whom you considered the foe, basically just scratching an itch and relying half on numbers (as in "many against one") and half on superstition.
And you still talk about why he is "wrong", "behaving badly", etc!
I still wish to know if in this case @Saragoldfarb is his customer because he paid. I wish to know if an account which paid at VeloxMedia.co.uk can therefore be defined as customer or not in @VeloxMedia view, and if therefore can enjoy the service or not as per the terms and deal established on their website.
Information like this is highly important, not to generate confusion, because we are not his customers in his view. I wish to distinguish if payment offers any rights to enjoy services as per website terms and deals.
Interesting point! But do you really know and have evidence that he does have that kind of access?
P.S. I'm not fully up to date and didn't even glance over the last few pages.
Just @VeloxMedia at this time, correct.
I don't use discord so I have no way of gathering enough data to verify your claims, so perhaps you should complain about her if you think you'd be better placed to make the case. If you'd like me to support you, again my day rate is a very reasonable $1500.
I'm good we have full attorneys that are specialists in GDPR who say otherwise. Do you have a law degree?
Again why are you singling me out when he posted everyone's data publicly on the Internet??? Are you not concerned?
okay wtf
Firstly velox has gdpr violations and so many other legal violations that people are concerned about who/how the data is handled and if laws are followed (which aren't from what I can tell)
Secondly, from the people who tldr'd me (default and I think ralf, thank you for helping me understand the summary again)
But holy shit, all let customers were sank down? Someone created a new thread about it we will see how it goes
Secondly, I don't understand how velox charged sarah again or that situation after my comment.
From my understanding, she was happy with the service for some apparent reason (I feel like it was sunk cost fallacy sarah)
The company's reputation is beyond tarnished at this point, one can probably find other cheap deals as well. I am not sure why sarah would get a vps again.
Did she have credit when lewis had the server and she used that to buy it but somehow she got charged by credit card. I know its 5$ but its highly shady. Atleast good that she didnt do it with like a big server cost
I am not affiliated with velox but are you guys not worried about how the credit card data is stored? When I was active on this page around 40-th page, people were worried about it
Also eric, buddy, people repeatedly asked you inclduing me to get a lawyer and seek help regarding the matter and how you can unbuy velox media. This is assuming that you aren't scamming and are well intentioned but the only person who won in this is lewis scamming you
If you still can, get yourself a lawyer and find if you can do something against eric. Because your company is a financial and legal mess which I or other people wont be able to trust with a 10 feet pole. Your reputation's tarnished sadly and I will tell you just to cut your losses and contact a lawyer
I asked you something 40 threads ago and its okay if it got lost, but did you know of the massively cheap deals that lewis had given which were gonna bite you back, how did you meet him (on reddit?) and how much did you invest and all the major events from your pov and contact a lawyer as well.
You cut off LET customers and basically rug pulled them. I am sorry if I sound harsh but that's because what you did was wrong and unfair to them, they gave you chances and you messed it up.
Now some will do gdpr violations against you and sue you and take legal action.
All because you invested into a company or bought it (from my understanding) with no background report on if it was sustainable and what etc., people from the first comment were suspicious that the let deals were over and in the end they were proven right. People were optimisitc and wanted to give you chance but you crushed that too
Why did oyu even buy it from lewis???? Lewis from unprofitable and you became the scapegoat and this is literally scamming, lewis sold cheap unprofitable unsustainable tehn sold it to you and you then cut off those deals while somehow having so much mystery shrouding it that more than 2000 comments or something idk have been made.
This thread is probably gonna go in some niche corner of history on the internet now until a youtuber picks it up someday lol
Such levels of controversy generation might as well go down in the best ways of ruining businesses.
I am sorry for those who had invested around 300$ or so or more. People on that other thread mention chargeback as a valid option.
This whole situation is really sad imo and could've been preventable in multiple stages but now I feel like its at a stage of no return sadly
Grow all you like. It just means the 2% fine will be all the larger.
You do realize he literally posted screenshots of him using the service on here right and bragging how fast and good it was.
Stripe authorization is inside and separate so he literally clicked accept order for the charge on their site, not ours. This is how payment processing works. If he was able to apply the credit he wouldn't need to put a credit card number in. He literally did this yesterday and we denied it.
He's only got 13 days left and he needs to give people some time to consent or he risks cutting off innocent customers. It kind of seems there's something more useful he could be doing with his time right now...
Well it sounds like you can explain this to Stripe or Paypal when she places a chargeback.
Ralf are you a lawyer? You mentioned the 1500$ as your day job,
If ralf you are a lawyer or know law, velox should probably hear to you about it and fix its issues instead of calling thread entertaining and literally taking let users vps's away banning them and the whole controversial actions its taking. They all seem immature and one of the core arguments which sank its boat
Can you also tell me what do you mean by the 2% fine, I may have missed something in the middle about the fine, but I'd appreciate if you could repeat that if possible, thanks buddy
Or we're incredibly smart and didn't buy the company or any of its liabilities. All those remain with the previous owner like we constantly keep stating. Because we have proper legal counsel and understand the laws.
Why isn't this a smart move?
This drama passed 100 pages?! Wow! It might need a TL;DR presentation movie done by @raindog308 at this point.
Good luck with that.
Assuming you actually have attorneys, then you have ones that seemingly are both unfamiliar with the GDPR and seemingly unable to parse statutes and understand their meaning.
Some free advice: try asking a different attorney who specialises in this stuff and see if they agree with your attorneys.
I have other things to do with my time. I can only do so much pro-bono.
I'm pretty sure I remember what she said yesterday, and her version of the events was somewhat different. And more coherent.
I've been following for 102 pages and the amount of contradictions posted by Eric makes my head spin.
My Fremont server was unavailable for hours (not down! nullrouted is not down! /j) but it's been up since then. I'm glad I have backups going for when Eric finally cracks.
At no point have I felt reassured that my service will remain through end of my term. Eric's the new owner, but not the new owner, and through the goodness of his heart he'll keep services alive for his non-customers, but his feelings get hurt and retaliates by deleting accounts.
If I were an enterprise customer of Eric/Velox/Benthost/whatever he wants to call it today, if I saw this thread I'd be pulling my services. His behavior is inexcusable.
If I bought a business as-is, I assume responsibility for everything that came with it. I don't buy the building, and shove all the occupants into a corner saying "oh those are the ex-owner's tenants and they can stay here for free for now because my heart is good, but if they complain they gotta go"
And lol, a 12 million dollar expansion but $1000 to ISP for a DDOS is too much....
This is all absolutely right. I'll say it's not about winning or losing. It's we don't have any responsibility to Lewis or his clients at all and we keep stating this over and over.
This circus on LET caused a ton of unnecessary drama and work for us and caused a huge network attack on you. It caused a datacenter to pay a ton in ddos protections and lose a bunch of money they shouldn't have had to pay. Everyone keeps losing from this for no reason.
All we've done is worked to keep the systems online and people happy. We had every intention on keeping their systems on until renewal and working on a renewal price structure that was fair.
We have zero obligation to do any of this and obviously it isn't helping so we're going to give the option to purchase services at a monthly fee to become customers and those who don't want to be customers will be terminated. This solves the issue for good and ends the conversation.
Because LET still hasn't restored our tag and hasn't properly responded to why it's suspended or the proper steps to restore we will not be offering services here or promos. We will be supporting all other sites with major deals.
I am not a lawyer (IANAL) but here I go, I talk about it:
There wasn't any company previously, it was a sole proprietorship and in cases like this, there have to be notarization (or so I saw written around the 40-ith page, I didnt read the 40 pages in the middle, this drama is way too streched)
You didn't provide the notarization or any mechanism and I would constitute that the govt has laws in place against people switching hands and the liability magically disappearing.
You have changed veloxmedia's payment processing to you and someone mentioned here long ago that this is all it takes and the liabilities are with you
You have the liabilities, you will be sued.
Also to be honest, I have said this multiple times but why would you accept the deal of buying velox media in the first place, did you not know that it was all unsustainable, bro lewis even mentioned it in his reddit post that its unprofitable.
You now want to seek profit in short term and cut servers effectively dead pooling but you didnt read the law or (did you even consult a lawyer?) about the transaction. I think you are in some serious legal trouble.
That's the minimum fine imposed by the ICO for GDPR violations, 2% of worldwide income. Should be quite juicy as Eric acquired the PII 2 days before the formation of Veloxmedia LLC when he was working on behalf of Benthost LLC.
I may have misjudged the size of Benthost LLC as I'm assuming it's small. If the company is signficantly larger, the fine increases to 4% of worldwide income.
I think I could have done a much better job at this... This is beyond amateur hour... This is intentional incompetence.
Shoutout to @MaxTakeba 's amazing sister in the UK!
I will try to create a script in my free time which might be rare with just all the tldr and the comment number and create a html page just for this, sounds interesting idea. might tinker with it but I am happy if someone else wants to do this too.
This situation feels so confusing to an outsider (I didnt buy any velox server) i cant imagine the people who bought velox must feel now. I am new to let but this feels like one of the most complicated/long threads with a recurring theme which isnt some giveaway or something.
This whole situation just feels so complicated.
So the money everyone paid to Lewis is just gone?
Thank you LET staff. We don't want such providers here.
Yes 100% haven't I answered this multiple times. When someone purchased services they become a customer of Velox Media inc and everything. All services and everything is perfectly fine, compliant and everything.
We even responded on here to his post thanking him.
As stated multiple times, any service purchased or renewed after 12/21 is a customer of ours. We have a bunch of them. We are reviewing some orders/renewals manually just to catch any crazy deals that might be stuck in the system as we are still cleaning things up.
This is the real question to many and was it you network who wrote this message in the start as well or was it someone else
but someone else wrote the same message in the start asking them
102 threads deep with massive confusion and we still dont know the answer
eric please respond this as its important for every LET user who would've bought VeloxMedia. we want a simple yes/no answer.
I have only skimmed the last 100 pages, but if you just bought the name, then all these people with services should still be with the old host / provider, since you didn't buy their servers. The only people who would have an account with you and a service with you are people who placed an order AFTER you bought the name.
Sounds like you bought more than a name!
Why aren't you concerned about @Saragoldfarb posting GDPR data publicly with multiple links in this thread full of people's PII on here?
Isn't this a massive breach?