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Gotta say, I'm disappointed by this years BF

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  • orangevpsorangevps Member, Patron Provider

    hmmm, me too

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Cybr said:

    @emgh said:
    I bought 2x32GB Kingston DDR5 6000MHz CL30 6000MHz CL30 FURY Beast about 5 months ago, paid 2 290 SEK, the same sticks cost 8 190 SEK now. That's a 258 % increase. No wonder providers can't do lots of deals.

    Thanks @barbaros for roasting my 32GB RAM and making me return it, because otherwise I would have bought the 64GB now :D

    I bought 4x48GB around the same time, and couldn't even tell you how much it costs now because there's no stock anywhere.

    Glad you bought it back when it was cheap

    Lots of $$ saved there with 4x48GB

    Thanked by 1Cybr
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:
    OpenAI is the only thing holding up the economy.

    Sam Altman says OpenAI is about to go bankrupt.

    Expect good RAM deals next year.

    But you won't have a job.

    I think as soon as LLMs show a decrease in advancing we’re fucked

    But as long as they continue improving so fast I think the bull train continues on

    Not sure if we can keep them getting better for years or if we’re about to hit a wall though

  • @oplink said:
    Guess you missed out a stash vps!
    https://oplink.net/vps/#INTEL-XEON-GOLD-HIGH-STORAGE-VPS
    We had 40% off annual for BF (ended now though)

    Indeed, I missed it. That would have been perfect for one of my "I really should get around to this" projects! Alas.

  • Damn, I have got spare 16GB RAM memory, need to sell it quickly.

  • edited December 2025

    @Zappie said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: But you won't have a job.

    Didnt AI take our jobs to begin with and this will mean we get our jobs back?

    Idiot capitalists equipped with AI took our jobs, and idiot capitalists with or without AI will continue taking our jobs.

    @emgh said:

    I think as soon as LLMs show a decrease in advancing we’re fucked

    That happened years ago. OpenAI admits it hasn't had a successful pre-training run in years, so they can't even replicate what happened years ago.

  • @Zappie said:

    @OpaqueRegistrant said: But you won't have a job.

    Didnt AI take our jobs to begin with and this will mean we get our jobs back?

  • @joy4theluv said:
    Only can I see is things are gradually expensive each year :D

    Isn't hosting usually deflationary? Are things difference recently?

  • @Turbo_Pascal said:

    @joy4theluv said:
    Only can I see is things are gradually expensive each year :D

    Isn't hosting usually deflationary? Are things difference recently?

    yes, hardware cost quadrupled because OpenAI bought all the hardware

  • A lot has changed in the last year but primarily costs have gone up for providers.

    A great deal this year would be last year's price for the same specification - although I found few of these too.

    Thanked by 1scooke
  • @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @Turbo_Pascal said:

    @joy4theluv said:
    Only can I see is things are gradually expensive each year :D

    Isn't hosting usually deflationary? Are things difference recently?

    yes, hardware cost quadrupled because OpenAI bought all the hardware

    The bad news is that Samsung, Hynix and Micron basically said they're not interested in ramping production and rather ride the profitability wave.
    The good news is that we get more AI generated reviews.

  • @CheepCluck said:
    The bad news is that Samsung, Hynix and Micron basically said they're not interested in ramping production and rather ride the profitability wave.
    The good news is that we get more AI generated reviews.

    Yea, they also reduced production when the price was too low previously, so not that surprised they don't want to ramp up, but still all of the manufacturers doing the same on this kind of looks like a cartel to me. May it lead to sanctions like in 2002 with the DRAM price fixing scandal?
    Also, the more the days pass, the crazier the news gets...
    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Not-even-gamer-DDR5-RAM-kits-are-safe-from-OpenAI-as-OpenAI-employees-are-allegedly-buying-any-DDR5-kit-they-can.1176107.0.html

    Hope this insanity will calm down...

    So yeah, next Black Friday is not gonna be great...

  • @Platonks said:

    @CheepCluck said:
    The bad news is that Samsung, Hynix and Micron basically said they're not interested in ramping production and rather ride the profitability wave.
    The good news is that we get more AI generated reviews.

    Yea, they also reduced production when the price was too low previously, so not that surprised they don't want to ramp up, but still all of the manufacturers doing the same on this kind of looks like a cartel to me. May it lead to sanctions like in 2002 with the DRAM price fixing scandal?

    Yah it's no surprise them 3 act like a cartel. They want to be the OPEC of flash memory. They're not being bashful about it either, just like during the fixing scandal.
    Can't wait til the utility company starts charging more because AI data centers are buying >50% of the capacity.

    On the bright side, price per GiB is still cheaper than RIMMs.

  • Calm down and wait when openai pops.

  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2025

    @scooke said: This year, I bought NOTHING. NO THING. nada.

    That makes 2 of us, well, just bought a new fridge cause the old one decided to leave the chat for good.

    @DataWagon said:
    Energy pricing is up 2-3x in the past few years in most places. RAM and NVMe pricing is up 500% in the past 3 months, and only going up more.

    You're not going to see anything get cheaper anytime soon. Providers are struggling to maintain their existing pricing.

    Now this fella nailed it 100%

    @servarica_hani said: now you go to a DC with approx 0.5MW requirement and they return the call after 1 week !!!

    and when you say you consume ~7MWh / MO, they see you like a fat roasted pig. :D

  • FourplexFourplex Member, Host Rep

    @host_c said:
    Now this fella nailed it 100%

    This.

    RAM prices are going up, so it's harder to offer killer deals.

    We still have quite a bit of stock left, but I really hope RAM prices fall before we deplete stock (unlikely). Maybe an antitrust lawsuit against Amazon, Microsoft and Google :D?

    Thanked by 3host_c nghialele scooke
  • host_chost_c Patron Provider, Top Host, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2025

    @Fourplex said: RAM prices are going up, so it's harder to offer killer deals.

    sincerely, all look like shit

    RAM, HDD ( Jesus, I just payed 30% more fore the same shit I bought 6 mo ago ), CPU and so on..... did I say that Electricity is like GAS price in EU???? wtffffff...... :D :D

    On thing is to get it, as that u usually manage to do, but the shit weights it's price in KW in 12 mo. :D

  • fiberstatefiberstate Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2025

    @OpaqueRegistrant said:

    @Turbo_Pascal said:

    @joy4theluv said:
    Only can I see is things are gradually expensive each year :D

    Isn't hosting usually deflationary? Are things difference recently?

    yes, hardware cost quadrupled because OpenAI bought all the hardware

    Micron came out straight and was just like, "we are making way more manufacturing memory for AI demand" good bye consumer grade products. Its not just memory that is currently impossible to find even if you are willing to pay the 400% increase, NVMe's are going to go through the roof.

    Micron has made the difficult decision to exit the Crucial consumer business in order to improve supply and support for our larger, strategic customers in faster-growing segments.

    https://investors.micron.com/news-releases/news-release-details/micron-announces-exit-crucial-consumer-business

    The news just gets worse and worse by the day. Current predictions are 2 - 3 years before there is any meaningful production. SK Hynix and Samsung have both also stated they will not kick up manufacturing.

  • @fiberstate said:
    Micron has made the difficult decision to exit the Crucial consumer business in order to improve supply and support for our larger, strategic customers in faster-growing segments.

    Where are people gonna get their RGB memory tat from now?

  • I also didn't buy a vps this BF. just b/c the ones I like were sold out quickly.
    btw, is there any other offer that a VPS with 2 EPYC/4G RAM/80G DISK for 20 EUR/yr?

  • I will definitely keep my beanman109 vps.

    Looking all the BF offer made me disappointed.

  • rpqurpqu Member
    edited December 2025

    @host_c said: did I say that Electricity is like GAS price in EU???? wtffffff...... :D :D

    Blame the anti-nuclear activists. There's a huge gap in solar energy production between summer and winter, but demand grew in the winter.

    Thanked by 1commercial
  • I haven't made any purchases too this BF, i've made better purchases just by random offers or flash sales during the year posted here.

    Quite honestly, i couldn't keep up with the megathread's memes and gifs and somewhere scattered in between the actual deals.

    Thanked by 1scooke
  • itsTomHarperitsTomHarper Member, Megathread Squad
    edited December 2025

    @fiberstate said:
    TLDR;

    Providers: You can't even imagine how expensive it is to operate at the moment. Its a post-apocalyptic AI venture cap wasteland, there is nothing left.

    LET: Ok, hmm.. I see, but where deal?

    Haha, I used to be on that side as well - until I learned how a hosting business actually works behind the scenes. It’s pretty wild!

    Thanked by 1commercial
  • @ralf said:

    @DataRecovery said:

    @crunchbits said:

    @op23 said:
    I am not sure if people even look outside their bubble much. Everything is mad expensive and people are struggling to just put food on the table.

    And hobbies are targeted even more. You can’t even build a PC for gaming anymore if you are budget conscious because ram alone is costing as much as a high end cpu or low end-mid range gpu. And ssds are slowly following suite. Prepare for a bumpy ride thanks to mindless AI push (not saying AI in itself is bad, the current “mindless” push is)

    With all that said, I still think @FAT32 deserves a ton of praise for the tireless effort he singlehandedly does to get these events going just because of his pure love of the game. It's truly remarkable. Then he has dickhead providers asking him to make marketing puzzles with jacked mustached men mere hours before the event goes live on top of it all.

    I totally agree.

    I believe if we all chip in, we can afford to buy some luxurious gift for @FAT32

    How about a 4 GB RAM stick?

    Should some big lads providers join in, it could be even a whooping 8 GB!!

    We should probably get him a matched pair

    Kidneys will soon be cheaper.

  • What's quite amusing is that very few suppliers differentiate themselves. The vast majority of offers are similar. The good news for buyers of this standard is that there is fierce price competition, so it's possible to get some great deals.

    However, it is with atypical offerings, which also require technical expertise and less standard hardware choices (much more SSD, or a return to hard drives without necessarily being a storage offering, as requested here), that suppliers could differentiate themselves, attract new customers with less competition, and thus achieve better margins.

  • I hate to say this, but before blaming the Black Friday event, or the LET community, or the providers, please look at how the world around us is going to shit due to the "wise" politicians we have. If you want a better world, please consider protesting now. We need to send a signal to our politicians which care only about their corruption and the greed of corporations. The working people need to wake up and protest, otherwise civilisation as we know it will be destroyed by warmongers.

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  • fiberstatefiberstate Member, Patron Provider

    @commercial said:
    What's quite amusing is that very few suppliers differentiate themselves. The vast majority of offers are similar. The good news for buyers of this standard is that there is fierce price competition, so it's possible to get some great deals.

    However, it is with atypical offerings, which also require technical expertise and less standard hardware choices (much more SSD, or a return to hard drives without necessarily being a storage offering, as requested here), that suppliers could differentiate themselves, attract new customers with less competition, and thus achieve better margins.

    This is a great point. As a provider that can always use feedback, what type of configs would you like to see offered in example?

    Thanked by 1commercial
  • @fiberstate said:
    What type of configs would you like to see offered in example?

    I'm probably not your ideal customer, as I use very few VPSs with common specs (n8n, Discourse). However, if you use AI to analyze all the posts in the “Request” section of various forums, such as LET, WHT, and others, you'll get a good idea of the services and specs that are most in demand but poorly covered by your peers. Being leader on some niche market is always a lucrative strategy and provide side business. Indeed, you already have an incredible reputation here.

    Incidentally, feel free to visit my profil or join the Salesty group on LinkedIn. I would love to work with you if you give me this opportunity ;)

    Thanked by 1fiberstate
  • @arjunnadar said:
    me too, but too cheap equals bad experience I think, what you purchase is always what you will get

    I've bought cheap and never had any problems. Then again, I buy cheap from reliable hosters, not "new" ones with weird names, which I've never heard of before.

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