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Fuck off, this is unnecessary hassle. @Francisco just said to use alternate ports besides 465 and 587. That's unnecessary hassle and not typical with other providers.
Blocking outgoing (crane->world) port 25/465/587 has been common in the shared industry for 10 some odd years. cPanel has had it built in for at least that long. Imunify360 has a full section to handle whitelisting users, redirecting the ports, etc.
We've had issues where a user gets comp'd, or maybe runs a script, that makes outgoing port 25 sweeps/scans/brutes/whatever, and we end up on abuseipdb or similar. That happened enough times that the node ends up on multiple block lists like malwarebytes/etc and then people cry their site is down.
Tracking down which user isn't easy either, usually involving ugly iptables rules or similar, but that causes its own issues.
The very vast majority of mail hosts offer alt ports.
Francisco
I'm guessing you might not block a connection to namecrane hosted email perhaps, which can then send on messages subject to normal screening for spam.
If that's the case you might not even need to use namecrane for inbound emails
Nobody is complaining about blocking port 25, so why do you keep mentioning it? The complaint is blocking mail ports for authenticated users sending mail from a service outside of your shared hosting.
Anyone else experience port 465/587 blocks on shared hosting? This is the first I'm hearing of this, but I've only used about 4 in the last decade.
Any lifetime NameCrane deals coming for Black Friday?
Can the lifetime email plans still be stacked?
The stacked plans can be ordered on the site.
Francisco
@Francisco Please update us on the hardware upgrade in New York. Thank you.
Our techs installing gear as we speak
I think it'll be tomorrow before I have access, we'll see.
Francisco
Is crypto no longer accepted?
Just fine on everything minus email. Email can be arranged but its a custom order.
Francisco
Done!!
Francisco
Is NameCrane becoming a domain registrar still on the horizon or has it been shelved?
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Absolutely, i'm just having to rewrite our EPP system. We need a lot of additional logging/auditing in place due to ICANN. I'm mostly done it, just got preoccupied with some of the DC work and other behind-the-scenes work we're doing
We'll likely have ~20,000 domains under our control before EOY 2025.
Francisco
SG node is having issues, frequent downtime since couple of days
Can you let me know if you’re using cloudflare? We’ve recorded some routing issues from CF in SG and it affected some other users too.
Francisco
I have seen this in Sweden as well. Many complaints from users. Had to stop using it for some stuff.
is it stuff behind CF though? Being in Sweden doesn’t matter much if CF is where the fault is.
Francisco
Not NameCrane stuff. Just sites with lots of traffic and lots of user complaints from people seeing 30s+ loading times from some ISPs.
Tried turning the CDN off for awhile and everyone reported the issue as solved.
Aah ok. We confirmed it on our upstreams smokeping.
Francisco
Yes Using Cloudflare
Having same issue with SG node (CF enabled) for few days.
I disabled CF for the past 5 days and seems like it's stable (no more downtime notifications).
Just enabled CF now to see if it gets wonky again in the next few days. Hopefully not!
Any BF deals?
https://securityaffairs.com/187201/hacking/critical-smartermail-vulnerability-under-attack-no-cve-yet.html NameCrane uses Smartermail right? Hopefully they patch things ASAP.
Yep, we keep up with those. We stick at most ~1 week behind whatever the latest version is.
Francisco
Any update on the domains?
Yes!
We've had a beta open on Discord
Just waiting on Verisign to fix our OTE, but XYZ and ORG are there.
Francisco
I'm not trying to start an argument but this isn't quite accurate. Economies of scale suggest that providers are over selling unless they have similar master nodes, as the performance per dollar doesn't add up otherwise.
Hosts like @ProHosting24 have had master nodes with specifications such as the following for over a year already:
Processor: AMD EPYC 7543
Memory: 1024 GB REG ECC DDR4
Hard disk: 2 x 3.84 NVMe SSD
Processor: AMD EPYC 9554
Memory: 2304 GB REG ECC DDR5 4800MHz
Hard disk: 2 x 7.68 TB
They've obviously got competitors such as @berohost and @advinservers who have similar nodes, including Turin.
That's good to hear because this new one seems relatively serious.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/smartermail-auth-bypass-flaw-now-exploited-to-hijack-admin-accounts/
https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2026-23760
the beefier the servers, the more overselling is done. On E3/E5 with 8 to 12 core, 24 to 36 GB RAM one can host 1000 sites if they are small using only around 500MB to 1GB max space and not much traffic.