Major Path.net Outage. 6 (maybe more) PoPs down at the same time.

PolyAnthi · February 2025

@Jack_SBE said:
This is the reason you will see a lot of routes going via amsterdam right now as their IX ports are still live there and likely preferred by a lot of local ISPs in London.

Their IX ports aren't online at the moment as it seems, no route to host and hold timer expired?

Read what you said wrong, yeah that'd make sense, will be interesting to see how it progresses

cu_olly · February 2025

@Jack_SBE said: In regards to the borked routing - they are still in london, they moved into the same dc we use so we have a physical cross connect now.

IPH? I did wonder after seeing a particular rack...

SoepBlik · February 2025

@Jack_SBE said:
We have moved our connection with path in london, reviewing when is going to be appropriate to swing our clients back to them currently.

In regards to the borked routing - they are still in london, they moved into the same dc we use so we have a physical cross connect now.

They struggled to get some T1 ports changed over in time so they're live with reduced capacity as a short term resolution to having london customers down. You'll probably see peers go back up and latency go back down in the coming weeks as their other T1's get the ports moved for them.

GTT is very very slow when it comes to ports being moved or going up/down so I kind of expected this.

This is the reason you will see a lot of routes going via amsterdam right now as their IX ports are still live there and likely preferred by a lot of local ISPs in London.

I'm surprised you're even considering going back.

fluffernutter · February 2025

@SoepBlik said:

@Jack_SBE said:
We have moved our connection with path in london, reviewing when is going to be appropriate to swing our clients back to them currently.

In regards to the borked routing - they are still in london, they moved into the same dc we use so we have a physical cross connect now.

They struggled to get some T1 ports changed over in time so they're live with reduced capacity as a short term resolution to having london customers down. You'll probably see peers go back up and latency go back down in the coming weeks as their other T1's get the ports moved for them.

GTT is very very slow when it comes to ports being moved or going up/down so I kind of expected this.

This is the reason you will see a lot of routes going via amsterdam right now as their IX ports are still live there and likely preferred by a lot of local ISPs in London.

I'm surprised you're even considering going back.

glutton for punishment I guess

bobert · February 2025

krebs article on former path employee now at doge

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/

stefeman · February 2025

@bobert said:
krebs article on former path employee now at doge

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/

FYI, Rivage was wronged by path multiple times, not to mention he never leaked anything. He did disclose that he had not been paid and was suing the company, and was let go because of that.

I can see that USA media is 100% about politics when path.net suddenly becomes a reputable cybersecurity company when they have to give some value to the fact he had dispute with Marshal (Who is as bad or worse than Rivage) in order to discredit the republicans and the people working in doge.

As for his Russian language bot, his mother is an immigrant (now citizen), and afaik it was some AI related to his another project https://getyo.ai/. Krebs really has taken everything out of context in the article to sensationalize everything lol.

Then theres that ridiculous chat snippet of ArmoredVM Discord server which has the names of the biggest shit talkers/drama creators in that channel.

I bet Marshal and rest of path.net crooks are so jealous right now, they are willing to say anything to anyone in order to discredit some person who got away from their abuse and actually made a career for himself.

As much as I hate Elon Musk, Its good to know Rivage has his back and can actually pursue his dreams in IT career. lets just hope it wont go to his head and he keeps himself grounded and focuses on what's important.

zed · February 2025

@stefeman said: Krebs really has taken everything out of context in the article to sensationalize everything lol.

classic krebs really, don't give him clicks.

stefeman · February 2025

@zed said:

@stefeman said: Krebs really has taken everything out of context in the article to sensationalize everything lol.

classic krebs really, don't give him clicks.

Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article. But it is as you say, there are no honor among thieves and from Krebs perspective, why would he want to give anyone involved in such communities, even for learning purpose any benefit of doubt.

Theres always a new low for path.net. Right now the company is so worthless, Marshal literally uses it's name and image to bully his ex employees when theyre about to make it in life. I would love to know what the original investors of path.net think if they are aware of this circus and what the company is now ultimately used for. A tool for shit talking ex employees that the CEO has beef with xD

bobert · February 2025

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

stefeman · February 2025

@bobert said:

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Im also very biased against marshal cuz 2 of my friends have been interning or working there for free and treated badly while one still works there.

Personally I think hes an asshole and full of himself so even if he talks the truth, I would not believe it.

bobert · February 2025

@stefeman said: Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Even if he didn't leak anything he was still caught being involved with the cybercrime community "The Com" and caught red handed buying ddos attacks.

Archived Telegram messages shared with WIRED show that, in November 2022, a person using the handle “JoeyCrafter” posted to a Telegram channel focused on so-called distributed denial of service (DDoS) cyberattacks that bombard victim sites with junk traffic to knock them offline. In his messages, JoeyCrafter—which records from Discord, Telegram, and the networking protocol BGP indicate was a handle used by Coristine—writes that he’s “looking for a capable, powerful and reliable L7” that accepts bitcoin payments. That line, in the context of a DDoS-for-hire Telegram channel, suggests he was looking for someone who could carry out a layer-7 attack, a certain form of DDoS. A DDoS-for-hire service with the name Dstat.cc was seized in a multinational law enforcement operation last year.

The JoeyCrafter Telegram account had previously used the name “Rivage,” a name linked to Coristine on Discord and at Path, according to Path internal communications shared with WIRED. Both the Rivage Discord and Telegram accounts at times promoted Coristine’s DiamondCDN startup.

SillyGoose · February 2025

@stefeman said:

@bobert said:
krebs article on former path employee now at doge

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/02/teen-on-musks-doge-team-graduated-from-the-com/

FYI, Rivage was wronged by path multiple times, not to mention he never leaked anything. He did disclose that he had not been paid and was suing the company, and was let go because of that.

I can see that USA media is 100% about politics when path.net suddenly becomes a reputable cybersecurity company when they have to give some value to the fact he had dispute with Marshal (Who is as bad or worse than Rivage) in order to discredit the republicans and the people working in doge.

As for his Russian language bot, his mother is an immigrant (now citizen), and afaik it was some AI related to his another project https://getyo.ai/. Krebs really has taken everything out of context in the article to sensationalize everything lol.

Then theres that ridiculous chat snippet of ArmoredVM Discord server which has the names of the biggest shit talkers/drama creators in that channel.

I bet Marshal and rest of path.net crooks are so jealous right now, they are willing to say anything to anyone in order to discredit some person who got away from their abuse and actually made a career for himself.

As much as I hate Elon Musk, Its good to know Rivage has his back and can actually pursue his dreams in IT career. lets just hope it wont go to his head and he keeps himself grounded and focuses on what's important.

Never knew that was rivage.

HostSlick · February 2025

@Jack_SBE said: GTT is very very slow when it comes to ports being moved or going up/down so I kind of expected this.

I just ordered 300G of GTT and they tell me 30 day setup

nanankcornering · February 2025

Anyone have any (insider) updates for APAC regions?

are they moving to different DCs other than equinix? wonder what options are there..

cybertech · February 2025

@nanankcornering said:
Anyone have any (insider) updates for APAC regions?

are they moving to different DCs other than equinix? wonder what options are there..

chargeback yesterday is an option

SirFoxy · February 2025

@stefeman said:

@bobert said:

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Im also very biased against marshal cuz 2 of my friends have been interning or working there for free and treated badly while one still works there.

Personally I think hes an asshole and full of himself so even if he talks the truth, I would not believe it.

Path sent a legal notice to like 3 people that thanked my comment one time such as @MannDude because they knew Curtis Gervais leaked the same shit to me that he leaked to the incel forums and beyond, and it was going to come out in a LEB article.

The comment was directly related and I think the notices mostly went out to previous Path employees or contractors. They did send a C&D to LEB, though. As did Ross Ulbricht’s exes team lol.

That’s why Path is actively in a lawsuit with Curtis Gervais, because he was trying to take customers, leak shit, defame them, etc.

Every shitter that worked there decides it’s unethical only after Marshall decides to stop paying them. Funny how that works.

MannDude · February 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@stefeman said:

@bobert said:

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Im also very biased against marshal cuz 2 of my friends have been interning or working there for free and treated badly while one still works there.

Personally I think hes an asshole and full of himself so even if he talks the truth, I would not believe it.

Path sent a legal notice to like 3 people that thanked my comment one time such as @MannDude because they knew Curtis Gervais leaked the same shit to me that he leaked to the incel forums and beyond, and it was going to come out in a LEB article.

That’s why they’re actively in a lawsuit because Curtis Gervais was trying to take customers, leak shit, defame them, etc.

Every shitter that worked there decides it’s unethical only after Marshall decides to stop paying them. Funny how that works.

Yeah, I received a C&D for "Thanking" a post. I don't think it was then (or even now, really) common knowledge that I briefly worked an entry level position for Tempest for like 3 or 4 months in 2023 for some extra money. So it's not like my "Thanks" carried any actual weight to the public who seen it. No one on LET would have thought, "Oh, MannDude liked this, so it must be true". A complete waste of money for them to have a law office draft a cease and desist to me.

sillycat · February 2025

@SirFoxy said: Path sent a legal notice to like 3 people

Ah yes, the good old worthless legal notice. I hereby send you a legal notice that you’re an absolute dumbass. Please provide your legal address so I can send the correspondence.

@SirFoxy said: That’s why they’re actively in a lawsuit because Curtis Gervais was trying to take customers, leak shit, defame them, etc.

Anyone can be sued for anything. Welcome to the great U.S. of A.

SirFoxy · February 2025

@MannDude said:

@SirFoxy said:

@stefeman said:

@bobert said:

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Im also very biased against marshal cuz 2 of my friends have been interning or working there for free and treated badly while one still works there.

Personally I think hes an asshole and full of himself so even if he talks the truth, I would not believe it.

Path sent a legal notice to like 3 people that thanked my comment one time such as @MannDude because they knew Curtis Gervais leaked the same shit to me that he leaked to the incel forums and beyond, and it was going to come out in a LEB article.

That’s why they’re actively in a lawsuit because Curtis Gervais was trying to take customers, leak shit, defame them, etc.

Every shitter that worked there decides it’s unethical only after Marshall decides to stop paying them. Funny how that works.

Yeah, I received a C&D for "Thanking" a post. I don't think it was then (or even now, really) common knowledge that I briefly worked an entry level position for Tempest for like 3 or 4 months in 2023 for some extra money. So it's not like my "Thanks" carried any actual weight to the public who seen it. No one on LET would have thought, "Oh, MannDude liked this, so it must be true". A complete waste of money for them to have a law office draft a cease and desist to me.

Ultimately, Path won as the result was the finished article was never published. But these business strategies in the US are used all the time to keep negative content (even if it’s factual and accurate) from coming out, so it’s nothing surprising or new.

Though, looking back I was way too influenced by others opinions and I would have regretted supporting the narrative Curtis Gervais wanted me to push, as it was definitely biased.

I do agree with your comment above that Marshal Webb is pretty intelligent and the product works well, just needs to stop behaving like a 13-year-old skid.

stefeman · February 2025

@SirFoxy said:

@MannDude said:

@SirFoxy said:

@stefeman said:

@bobert said:

@stefeman said: Im most annoyed about the fact Krebs knows full well how crooked and full of liars path.net is, yet hes giving them enough credit to run this article.

Krebs is just reporting the facts. He's not painting Path as an innocent company with no shady background. In fact he mentions the shady stuff that Path has been involved in, but he already did an article on that, so he's not going to waste time hashing it out again.

And no matter how shady path is, a leaker is still a leaker. This kid should not have access to the entire US social security database with everyone's name, age, location etc... Nobody that had a history in a cybercrime community like "the com" should EVER have access to something like this.

There's absolutely no reason to believe that Path is playing 4d chess and pretending in pms that he leaked something when he didn't because they saw the future that he would get into doge.

And these are the kinds of people that worked at path and still work at path.

Marshal is known to be paranoid. He thinks that everyone is leaking stuff. No proof was given. Only claims which the media took as facts. If he leaked anything, he would had been sued. Path has sued for thank comments in LET before.

Im also very biased against marshal cuz 2 of my friends have been interning or working there for free and treated badly while one still works there.

Personally I think hes an asshole and full of himself so even if he talks the truth, I would not believe it.

Path sent a legal notice to like 3 people that thanked my comment one time such as @MannDude because they knew Curtis Gervais leaked the same shit to me that he leaked to the incel forums and beyond, and it was going to come out in a LEB article.

That’s why they’re actively in a lawsuit because Curtis Gervais was trying to take customers, leak shit, defame them, etc.

Every shitter that worked there decides it’s unethical only after Marshall decides to stop paying them. Funny how that works.

Yeah, I received a C&D for "Thanking" a post. I don't think it was then (or even now, really) common knowledge that I briefly worked an entry level position for Tempest for like 3 or 4 months in 2023 for some extra money. So it's not like my "Thanks" carried any actual weight to the public who seen it. No one on LET would have thought, "Oh, MannDude liked this, so it must be true". A complete waste of money for them to have a law office draft a cease and desist to me.

Just needs to stop behaving like a 13-year-old skid.

Impossible

PolyAnthi · February 2025

Good day New York City, today you have: No Path.net

cu_olly · February 2025

With NY and FL down, the latency from South America must be horrific

PolyAnthi · February 2025

@cu_olly said:
With NY and FL down, the latency from South America must be horrific

Yummy.

MannDude · February 2025

@PolyAnthi said:
Good day New York City, today you have: No Path.net

Damn. I bought some slices for an anycast project but had to cancel them because I didn't realize they use Path for anycast routing.

Yesterday ALL US traffic was going to NY.

Today..? Well:

https://ping.pe/198.251.86.110

That IP is announced in Vegas, Miami, New York and Luxembourg. Should be active until the service cancels here in 25 days or so. Feel free to check it periodically to see if things smooth out.

PolyAnthi · February 2025

@MannDude said:

@PolyAnthi said:
Good day New York City, today you have: No Path.net

Damn. I bought some slices for an anycast project but had to cancel them because I didn't realize they use Path for anycast routing.

Yesterday ALL US traffic was going to NY.

Today..? Well:

https://ping.pe/198.251.86.110

That IP is announced in Vegas, Miami, New York and Luxembourg. Should be active until the service cancels here in 25 days or so. Feel free to check it periodically to see if things smooth out.

US Traffic goes through a few PoPs at the moment, seems to be Kansas City, Utah and Silicon Valley, the most useless PoPs to exist

Voltrina · February 2025

I'm getting over 60+ ms of latency to my slice in NY with a Path IP, from within New York.

SoepBlik · February 2025

Current Status:

US Outages:

Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, New York, Miami, Phoenix
Power has been turned off by Equinix in Chicago, Miami and LA. Power cut in Phoenix by PhoenixNAP

APAC Outages:

Singapore, Tokyo, Sydney
Power has been turned off by Equinix in Singapore and Tokyo

London:

Back online, but at reduced capacity
Only one RETN port is up

Pending Transit Ports:

Miami, Dallas, and Sydney are still waiting for transit ports to become operational.
Dallas is down since Thursday.

It’s unclear why they initiated a data center migration in Dallas and Sydney without having these ports ready, especially since they have no clue when they will be ready.

Levi · February 2025

Criminals working at DDoS defense, now somehow Elons DOGE involved. Just please don't go to politics, please! Give us simple drama:

True reason for unpaying bills comes out;
Path destroyed;
CEO and CTO goes to jail;
Customers come here in cry for refugee deals;
Some scavs scav;
Drama goes to archive anals.

That's it. No idiotical politics, intrinsic schemas of fraud, shell companies etc. Just plain and simple drama

kait · February 2025

@SoepBlik said: Sydney

Sydney died like yesterday, their IXP port is down.

nanankcornering · February 2025

@SoepBlik said: Back online, but at reduced capacity

where are they moving to?

would like to commend their new DC operators for having server racks RFS in less than a month

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