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I'll be contented if I'm paid $1 for every
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All talk and no deals in a Thread about free hosting.
FAIL.
@Verasel I think your idea is extremely generous and my concern is really about the potential abuse and the extra work this will cause for you.
This forum does attract people from the 'low end' and as such, some really do act 'low end'. As has been said if something is free then what is to stop a lowender abusing the service. Using the number of 'thanks' is beneficial but you already said people could pass these on to others so the thanks is not really the best of solutions.
Another point is support - even if something is free, lowenders will still moan and groan. You should also consider that a lowender may be a first timer and have little to no knowledge of either a VPS or hosting, so support could be big challenge.
As far as privacy - it is your choice, but an account on here is 'semi private', so I would say if someone causes problems on your servers and you ban them, then they should be banned from here. Obviously this would need approval from 'the powers that be', but it could be used as a deterrent.
I am not trying to put you off but hope the above gives you the big picture.
As far as specs -
I would always choose a VPS as I can choose to host if I wish or do anything else.
The VPS specs should be fine, but if I was in your position I would have an extremely limited number of OS templates which all contain a script allowing the install of certain configurations. These scripts could be created and supported by the community here.
HTH
Thank you for checking!
2 is insane
But so far away from @FAT32
@lukast__ clever profile picture
Great initiative friend! Would appreciate a VPS node as well
Do you verify is the user is the LET account holder ? Maybe implement a system of verification, similar to domain verification. The user needs to place a random string of characters at the end of their bio or in a comment that you can verify. Else people will send you random names.
Also ipv6 only would be a great teaching tool. I always had the luxury of v4, having to be able to play around with v6 would be amazing. Maybe it’s even tax deductible for public education 😉
If you're prepared to finance the entire venture I would still question your choice of panel. I wonder if an open source solution, something that people can easily and affordably replicate, would be a better fit for your goals of learning and growing, rather than getting users dependent on a paid panel. The downside of course is that some people won't use it if it isn't easy enough.
A functioning Email would be nice, and arguably a necessary component of a normal website; although there is heavy potential for abuse, and other free options are available.
I've only recently started using docker myself. I've been using runtipi. It consumes about 256MB RAM and handles a couple small containers even on a 1GB VPS. I've also used easypanel and they are both very similar, but runtipi seems to be a bit lighter and a smoother user experience (my opinion).
Yep. He Bribed with all Giveaways 😇
Rigged.
I prefer vps node with basic 512/1g/2g ram and 1-4 vcores initially. And for a certain period like 3 months or half an year to make sure no abuse to the server and then provide a ipv4 to try the best not to dirty the shared ipv4.
In additionlly. People (let users with fair reputation such as post count thanks count etc) can also pay extra 1-2$ fee to upgrade to a better spec or pay a commercial bill to upgrade to a business customer
Free private AI with no restrictions except maybe usage per day. Meaning don’t tell the model to censor itself.
Aha, and that would be used for pr0n 100%. That’s disgusting.
I saw Shared Hosting Node and thought of https://www.serv00.com/, a free hosting service. You'll notice that it has already reached its limit of 170,000/170,000. They have expanded with many more nodes, yet they still get fully occupied! So, this remains quite risky! But the original intent of your plan is truly great!
i usually dont rely on "free"
every time i get something free or very very cheap it gets to bite my ass
Hey bro do have a decision now?
Free private AI with no restrictions except maybe usage per day. Meaning don’t tell the model to censor itself. > @Levi said:
I don’t think everyone will think that. I wasn’t. I just wanted free privacy
I will be happy to help as I run once service like this in 2021 till 23 but later on I can not afford to pay all by my self as ovh start charging for ip monthly not one time - I had about 190 ipv4 there, some was donated, some was my.
I just saw this, need a hand?
I can help too
I would love to see a good free webhost haha
Well, unless the end-user's required specs are unrealistic for a free shared hosting (eq. dedicated IP, X00 GB Space, unlimited traffic ... etc.) there are already quite a lot providers who offers at least a decent service.
Is it worth the hassle?! Prolly not. But I don't want to kill your enthusiasm, so good luck.
@Verasel is there any way i can work with you on this thing ? maybe as a support rep or something ?
@Andreix
After speaking to a very knowledgeable person in the industry, I think I am going with DA or https://easypanel.io -- but it's going to be a decent and honorable project, with free speech in mind. Meaning, not for abusers, but rather, for those looking to either tinker with things, or simply spin up a quick WP instance and test things.
But, I decided against VPS... I simply do not have the resources to ensure that I give what people deserve (enough cores, etc) and I would never oversell, one of the reasons why I never went into the VPS business, it's too expensive to do it properly, at least in my humble opinion.
I am not 100% certain whether or not I am right that it's expensive to do it properly, but from what I checked, I would need to fork out A LOT of money in order to ensure that people get something worth their time and effort, and be able to use it without waiting forever to install packages.
So I think either DA or EasyPanel... I am leaning towards EasyPanel for some reason... but like I said -- 100% free -- always. No upsells, nothing. But, you have to be an active LET user, with a purpose. Otherwise it's abuse paradise, and I would not be able to sustain that. We have to be realistic...
Brother,
It's going to be a free project, so no support Staff needed, and I work alone, but if I ever get to the big leagues... I will hire some people... and they will be from LET, and they will be paid well!
@Verasel so how's the testing going on with easypanel? Got it to work with clusters and scaling?
I'm calling dibs on this
Okay got it, still feel free to let me know if you need some help, it doesn't needs to be paid, I can help you out for free, i just want to get involved with these kind of projects maybe i will learn something & make new friends in LET
I can help for free too
I'd be interested in something like https://neocities.org/, but built on modern p2p technologies. For example, with seamless IPFS integration (with javascript injection inside html), something close to what Peertube is doing: every website visitor becomes the seeder of the content which they already visited in their web browser.
Neocities did some interesting things in the social aspect, but their engine lacks any type of dynamic content (such as a simple guestbook or a comment section for a blog), and has strict filetype and filesize limitations.
They have kind-of website comments inside the Neocities page, but it's more like an internal microblog than a dynamic content, you can't embed it into your webpage.
It would be very cool to combine these ideas. Neocities + Tildas + p2p.