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Anything that lasts more than six months. The last few hosts that tried this lifetime free shared hosting gimmick either deadpooled or harvested data and terminated accounts.
i would love this. main purpose is YABS. BW is negligible for YABS.
IPv4 with dignity for free is also welcome
@TrK
Thanks brother, getting this regardless now... this is super cool... I need to start reading some of those startup websites or something. It's crazy how many new cool products there are out there, and some of us are stuck in 2005!
Hoping you or @raindog308 will help regarding the needed hardware specifications, etc. But it's quite nice, for sure!
@Void
Absolutely understandable, but in spite of having a shitton of real life shit hit me for the past year and a half, here I am... Still providing services to every single customer. Sure, I don't have a lot of customers or anything, but I push a decent amount of bandwidth, and most important of all: my customers are mainly other companies, and they only work with that one host, and no one else. It's not about the pricing, it's about the trust, and the fact that some of them want to meet you. Some of them want to text you, call you, et cetera.
They want a reliable service, and someone they can get to know in a personal manner, and I am not saying that I am even anywhere near the most preferrable option for a lot of those people. Namely due to people putting the WHOIS Privacy Service on whatever domains they want, creating negative attention, etc... but they stay because at the end of the day, you choose the evil you know. I obviously shouldn't have said "you choose the evil you know", but to customers, at least most of them.
It's about paying the least amount and making sure that they are taken care of, and that they can approach you in a gentlemanly manner.
I provide such a service: Bare metal servers, domain name privacy, acquisition of rare and/or really weird domain extensions, all sorts of things that you wouldn't expect from your typical hosting company. But it goes from all of that, to getting them legal counsel, developers, etc. Nearly full management for a price they can't complain about.
Therefore, I promise, even though it means fuck all, considering you don't know me (but I would like to get to know you, lol... not in a creepy way, I promise!) but I am not going anywhere. I have too many people depending on me and my services, and I am here to stay.
Helping people is my passion, and this won't break the bank. Genuinely speaking here. It just won't. It's different with the low end market, but if you have the resources already, and they are just sitting there.... why not just be a decent person and do something for the benefit of others.
If they grow, they might stay with me, if not.. plenty of other good people to host with.
@cybertech
So you're saying these would definitely be good specs in general, or you're just making a YABS joke? Asking due to seeing a lot of YABS posts here, and no one I know uses that, lol.
@Verasel in general , very generous and usable specs.
Let's stick with these, I think @FAT32 also agrees, I think. What do you think, FAT?
@Verasel here's an outline in general, I am personally using easypanel free version my use case, if I were to deploy something targeted towards en masse users it would be with ampere altra or epyc servers because of cheap cores and even i forego the cores it's gonna be ram heavy in start sure it won't be an issue with 32-64gigs but after a certain amount of containers it gonna run out eventually, I have 18 containers on 4core 16gigs which typically consumes 50% of memory on average although some of my containers are locked to 256mb of ram. Also i believe the enterprise version comes with clusters or swarm clusters to be precise, There's much more to look at not just hardware, the multi user system isn't polished and will require manual intervention occasionally, what you can do is have whmcs handle the users and all with their plugin it will be easier to setup and monitor, rest can be done from the panel and it's API if needed. Good luck with the project and if you need help I think we have some big brains shying away or maybe busy irl but we will all help in ways we can.
This looks interesting and cool. I remember using 000webhost and Infinityfree in the past but that got boring really fast since i prefer using a vps nowadays and just install nginx on it. (i like doing everything manually on a unmanaged vps server) I saw someone said pikapods on this thread and it looks cool and i might try that out in the future
Protip: if you're serious about running a free service for LET - find a way to automate account checks like the free NATVPS services here on LET have.
Otherwise get used to sending a lot of copy paste messages for rejections from the constant stream of accounts that sign up with sub 10 comments.
Good point, I am trying to work with them and see what I can provide
Wow, I thought you had the process automated somehow........BTW how is NATVPS automating this overall process?
@Verasel
CPU and RAM
I would say this is too much for one user. Hosting a single web page con't use so many resource in my opinion, am I wrong?
You could allocate it in a flexible way to free up resources that aren't in use.
Disk
this should depend on user. You should block those who use it as a CDN or just upload their file for file hosting, but for those who really need storage, you can increase this limit. I would recommend 5GB for single user and increase when it was used up.
Bandwidth
Bandwidth limitation should be decide on account type. If the bandwidth is from human visitor, then it can be unlimited, it should also depends on current server or node load. The bandwidth should increase when the node is idle.
Other recommendations.
I would also recommend you to give a special space for them who only host Wordpress. You can put them on one server with WP pre-installed.
You would also need to prevent DDOS or DOS attack to the shared server. Maybe you should enforce Cloudflare or something else. But the problem is Cloudflare doesn't support subdomain, So if the server is been DOSed, You will need to think of how to bring the server back.
You can start first from PHP hosting and WP hosting. Then you can give trusted users access to terminal on a container or virtual machine. I recommend you not to give terminal access to everyone.
I would recommend you to not look at the users' LET profile, look at how they user the server instead. You can write script to automatic shutdown abusing accounts or limit them.
Hope you consider my advice, thanks.
If you want to just throw money away I can give you my PayPal instead
Nah I just manually check accounts and use my own judgement on who gets in and who doesn't - Lex.st is small scale enough that I can just spent 5 minutes every few days going through the applications.
IIRC nanokvm.net & microlxc.net give you a unique token when you sign up, you post the token in a thread they have here on LET and I assume a bot then checks the LET account meets comment / account age requirements
Oh, I seeee
MY IM Never knew since when lex.st is open for register
Just click whatever location you want on the website, fill in the details and the order goes to pending - I manually activate orders after checking LET accounts
Should i start a free web or vps hosting?
And if so, which one?
if its free, you and your data are the product. no thanks!
I politely disagree. You would be surprised at the amount of completely free services in certain countries available to its citizens. Why should it be any different with hosting? If it's a trust thing, don't take it (once it's up and running), and your problem is non-existent.
I am merely trying to state that no sane business person cares, or has the time to care about what's on their client's accounts. Even if it's free... I am addressing nearly every post in this thread because it's beneficial to the community, as we are trying to come to some sort of an agreement about the specs.
But if you think that people are interested in your data, it's just nonsense unless you are dealing with children, and I am not a child... I can only fuck you over once.
Think on that, and try to remember it. Like, always... try to remember that when dealing with people. They can only fuck you over once. I live my life by this mantra, and I have no issues when I deal with people, because I go in with no expectations, and I can't be disappointed. But it's a good life lesson regardless, because I am not about to risk my reputation, and steal client data, domain, whatever.... you can literally do it once, and your whole life's work, your reputation. Gone. What would be the point? I don't know....
But there are no tricks or gimmick here. It's unused hardware, unused IPv4, etc. There's no reason not to try and do something with.
If I can 100% say publicly that I won't go broke over it, then that's that. I won't. Here I am 2 years later, still helping people. Still consulting. Still hosting. I will risk my life's work (if I told you the names of some of the sites I host you would either LOL or you would say that I am lying, heh, but yeah, pretty big) to steal data, or fuck someone over? Not refund? Etc.
Never... people I work with are not the type of people that care for childish excuses and would simply destroy me legally. Fair enough if I hosted tiny sites, this would be diffcult, but I push enough bandwidth, and I am loyal to my clients, and always will be.
Free or paid, and yes. I have free clients, and some have had small/low-end servers for a year trying to make somethng in the online adult entertainent niche, and sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't... But you keep trying... and if the client is genuinely giving his best, he will eventually bring some profit to his family, and to mine as well.
Therefore, win - win....
No idea if you agree or disagree, but those are my thoughts. I simply do not do anything that would betray the client's trust. Under any circumstances. Clients that I have have been with me since the beginning and I value their business, even if they bring no profit.
It's not a charity, but you have to think long term. Someone who is making $10,000/mo today, may drop to $1,500/mo and cancel all his servers, and someone who was making $100/mo (barely enough to live anywhere) might strike gold on Stripchat and get a few big spenders, and make $50,000/mo, and order 20x file storage servers.
2GB RAM, 20GB Space, 2 vcores... This is good, very good infact.
Perfect for personal minecraft smp server(no more than 3-4 people expected at a time).
Its just enough for MANY applications. Please become a reality
2c 2gb ram is really generous, and for the bandwidth 100 GB is more than enough, anyone who asks for more is definitely making money out of it and should pay for it instead
heck even 50GB is enough.
I think abuse handling would be your main priority, abuse actors are attracted to 'free' like a moth is to a flame.
I mean you already know this but I just thought to reemphesize this point. Are you okay with the /24 getting a lot dirtier?
@raindog308 or @FAT32 or @Arkas — PROVIDE THE DAMN LEADERBOARD!!!
Please
You're place 3 or 2!
What I could find out:
2 (or lower) - FAT32 - 54908
3 (or lower) - emgh - 34845
4 (or lower) - jar - 33141
5 (or lower) - beanman109 - 24126
6 - raindog308 - 21742
@emgh, if I didn't make a mistake, you're place 2!
Update:
1 - FAT32 - 54908
2 - emgh - 34845
3 - jar - 33141
4 - Nekki - 26236
5 - beanman109 - 24126
6 - raindog308 - 21742
number 5 checking in here
y'all have LET as full time job or what
yes i'm paid per comment i make by jbiloh
Can LET hire me full time while paying the same salary I am getting? I will accept it in a heartbeat