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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    You can check OGF, it's free

    Im on OGF. Its boring there. No 69ing going on.

    You can always start the act. Everyone will join

    Afraid of the banhammer:)

    Cannot know without trying....

  • @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    You can check OGF, it's free

    Im on OGF. Its boring there. No 69ing going on.

    You can always start the act. Everyone will join

    Afraid of the banhammer:)

    Cannot know without trying....

    talking about hammering where is @ehab and @emgh

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @barbaros said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @plumberg said:

    You can check OGF, it's free

    Im on OGF. Its boring there. No 69ing going on.

    You can always start the act. Everyone will join

    Afraid of the banhammer:)

    Cannot know without trying....

    talking about hammering where is @ehab and @emgh

    Current status of @ehab

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @barbaros said:
    talking about hammering where is @ehab and @emgh

    @emgh is doing squats with us.

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @yoursunny said:

    @barbaros said:
    talking about hammering where is @ehab and @emgh

    @emgh is doing squats with us.

    Squats? No situps?

  • [@itachikonoha said]
    The providers who are here for years have already built a base for which they won't require the mass marketing selling strategies such as post your invoice #. But once these posts are considered as spams, for new providers, the customer acquisition cost will increase automatically (more for some than the others).

    For many providers, it may not make much sense to continue pay for the tag since, without mass advertisements, they may not survive here among the giant ones. Sooner or later, these factor will come in to play. If opted for host rep, they may post only in mega threads thus lowering the interactions the rest throughout the year.

    I'm much more likely to purchase a service from a new provider if their sales thread only has 1-2 pages, and it's mostly feedback from customers, even if they just mention having the service for a few months.

    Also, ~$200/yr for a provider is cheap. That's $15/mo which is nothing in comparison to the price of IPs, co-location, etc.

    If a provider is crying about not wanting to pay $15 because they can't make threads full of pointless spam, they're not a provider worth anyone's time anyway IMO

    After all, one thing that has always existed in this community is people buying literally everything for no reason, and trying to find the little gems amongst hosts. There are always going to be people who buy the services of a new host, because they want to try it.

    Isn't it better to have a new host who makes a few sales with their first deal, provides a great service, and then in their next deal has some nice feedback from the original customers?

    Compare that to a new provider who comes along, makes some stupid "post your invoice for 2x bandwidth" deal and gets hundreds of pages of spam which is of no use to anyone at all, keeping their thread bumped up and drowning out any useful feedback for their service.

    I know which I prefer

  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR

    @plumberg said:
    Sorry, no. Reason: Vanilla software can't be changed it seems, at least not quick and cheap.

    A mod, without any software changes, still comment, "Closing thead because x" and then close/lock the thread.

    It will be the last comment in the thread so easy to find.

    Thanked by 1Beniskickbutt
  • Long overdue, some providers run promotional offers with "Spam" comments, and hardly anything that says something about their service. Not a good impression especially for someone who came to this forum for the first time to buy a service.

    Thanked by 1Beniskickbutt
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @yoursunny said:

    @barbaros said:
    talking about hammering where is @ehab and @emgh

    @emgh is doing squats with us.

    it s possibel & it s correct

  • itachikonohaitachikonoha Member
    edited January 2025

    I'll categorise the audience of LET in to two sections.

    1. Members: who believes they are part of community and bickering about what should or shouldn't be done. They will buy based upon the overall years of reviews, stability and connections with the providers via LET platform.

    2. The buyers: who has nothing to do with how the forum runs except they want a cheap deal in whatever form they can get. Sometimes even if it is at the cost of stability, then be it.

    Not sure both the type have similar priorities and will want the same.

  • GreyhoundGreyhound Member
    edited January 2025

    Stop spamming by leaving invoice number for double bandwidth something like that.

    When searching something got all thousands useless results.

  • If rules are unclear or if loopholes are left to get around it... then the loopholes are very likely to be used, by those that benefit from it.

    The first step would be to be clear on what the overall end goal and priority is.

    Is it about quantity or quality?

    Sometimes you can 't have your cake and eat it.

    Alternatively one could probably have a separate section like, "Spammy Offers" with relaxed rules and all goes, whose threads don't list/rank in the main/home list, or only from Page 2, or whatever makes sense to achieve whatever the actual goal is.

  • Delete LowEndTalk

  • gksgks Member
    edited January 2025

    @hostnoob said:

    [@itachikonoha said]
    The providers who are here for years have already built a base for which they won't require the mass marketing selling strategies such as post your invoice #. But once these posts are considered as spams, for new providers, the customer acquisition cost will increase automatically (more for some than the others).

    For many providers, it may not make much sense to continue pay for the tag since, without mass advertisements, they may not survive here among the giant ones. Sooner or later, these factor will come in to play. If opted for host rep, they may post only in mega threads thus lowering the interactions the rest throughout the year.

    I'm much more likely to purchase a service from a new provider if their sales thread only has 1-2 pages, and it's mostly feedback from customers, even if they just mention having the service for a few months.

    Also, ~$200/yr for a provider is cheap. That's $15/mo which is nothing in comparison to the price of IPs, co-location, etc.

    If a provider is crying about not wanting to pay $15 because they can't make threads full of pointless spam, they're not a provider worth anyone's time anyway IMO

    After all, one thing that has always existed in this community is people buying literally everything for no reason, and trying to find the little gems amongst hosts. There are always going to be people who buy the services of a new host, because they want to try it.

    Isn't it better to have a new host who makes a few sales with their first deal, provides a great service, and then in their next deal has some nice feedback from the original customers?

    Compare that to a new provider who comes along, makes some stupid "post your invoice for 2x bandwidth" deal and gets hundreds of pages of spam which is of no use to anyone at all, keeping their thread bumped up and drowning out any useful feedback for their service.

    I know which I prefer

    All this because this portal run a forum software for deals and offers, rather than catalog based page for deals and offers.

    A thread is pumped to front because of a comment from anyone or amature or ignorable or merely a word which may or not worth for other user which is subjective.

    Also the software behind not easily customizable, does not apply weighted measures, it is not only provider thread, any thread 6 months or years old come to front due to a comment by one user. It is not that user has intended to push to front, the app just pump it for a comment.

    Blamming users or providers is not right, the system behind LET needs replacement/improvement, unfortunately as many coders, db admins, vps admin, Linux and networking experts here, the owner of the forum deployed an amature, incomplete software, blammimg, threatening providers and users not right.

    If I click post comment, this thread will be at 4th position on homepage for a while, this is not my intention at all. I simply want to express my point so other users in other thread. Someone post their order. Some provider post ack for resource doubling. One user may ask help. One post udemy course. One post what song you listen. One ask question. one answer. Even mods and admins post comments, which are totally useless and timewasters if we really wanted to be pointy.

    If one provider thread does not pump, other categories users may post some comment, that push that thread on top. How to regulate every users?

    This thread and mods aka staffs try to show that forum users should not think LET as their community instead there is a owner, moderators, staffs, providers, favorable providers, rules can be partial. I simply follow the crowd and patterns, I never read rules here as an user.

    Thanked by 1Beniskickbutt
  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @gks said: This thread and mods aka staffs try to show that forum users should not think LET as their community instead there is a owner, moderators, staffs, providers, favorable providers, rules can be partial. I simply follow the crowd and patterns, I never read rules here as an user.

    All fair points. (the ones I understood, Claude is good).
    I can not argue nor defend them.

  • zedzed Member

    we were snookered

  • so......BAU?

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    No. Enough is enough. I (for now I will only speak for myself) will NOT stand for the status quo.

  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @Arkas said:
    No. Enough is enough. I (for now I will only speak for myself) will NOT stand for the status quo.

    Revolt!

  • GhtGht Member

    @Arkas said:

    @yoursunny said: Can you spell out clearly: is "comment order number" allowed?

    Yes or no.

    Yes

    I would permanently ban him , he is playing with you and with anyone given the opportunity. He is just a "Sucker" for giving him likes m trying to be funny.

    Thanked by 1Marx
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Ght said:

    @Arkas said:

    @yoursunny said: Can you spell out clearly: is "comment order number" allowed?

    Yes or no.

    Yes

    I would permanently ban him , he is playing with you and with anyone given the opportunity. He is just a "Sucker" for giving him likes m trying to be funny.

    There's a Chrome extension for our haters:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4277305/#Comment_4277305

    Thanked by 1beanman109
  • @yoursunny said:

    @Ght said:

    @Arkas said:

    @yoursunny said: Can you spell out clearly: is "comment order number" allowed?

    Yes or no.

    Yes

    I would permanently ban him , he is playing with you and with anyone given the opportunity. He is just a "Sucker" for giving him likes m trying to be funny.

    There's a Chrome extension for our haters:
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4277305/#Comment_4277305

    Someone actually made one! Bravo!

  • @plumberg said: You can check OGF, it's free

    what's OGF?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @glitch said:

    @plumberg said: You can check OGF, it's free

    what's OGF?

    Let me spell it out slowly.

    O
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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @glitch said:

    @plumberg said: You can check OGF, it's free

    what's OGF?

    Other Green Forum

    LES...

    Thanked by 3gks anandshaw87 glitch
  • @plumberg said:

    @glitch said:

    @plumberg said: You can check OGF, it's free

    what's OGF?

    Other Green Forum

    LES...

    Is it the colour green or a green environment ?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @anandshaw87 said:

    @plumberg said:

    @glitch said:

    @plumberg said: You can check OGF, it's free

    what's OGF?

    Other Green Forum

    LES...

    Is it the colour green or a green environment ?

    Both

  • caasifycaasify 🚩 Patron Provider Tag Suspended

    Can we ask to share the order ID number?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @caasify said:
    Can we ask to share the order ID number?

    In DMs, yes that would be most ideal and allow your threads to be more productive.

    Would not help if you do not help make a note that action will be taken on those posting order numbers in open/ promote spam.

    Else there is nothing stopping anyone to not follow/ respect rules as there is no severe enforcement

    Thanked by 1caasify
  • Sift everything via deepseek ai, all posts, all pm messages. Let it decide what is spam. If complaint arrive - redirect to the great Xi.

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