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We want to reduce the spam in the offers category - share your ideas!

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  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    [@emgh said](/ I can code this no worries.

    Go for it. Code it on your Rise-S

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @plumberg said:

    [@emgh said](/ I can code this no worries.

    Go for it. Code it on your Rise-S

    My it s love ryzen s

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    @emgh said:

    @plumberg said:

    [@emgh said](/ I can code this no worries.

    Go for it. Code it on your Rise-S

    My it s love ryzen s

    Love progress to 69 yet?

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited January 2025

    I am skeptical. I assume the plugin would only work in the offer category, right?

    Few thoughts:
    What about legitimate questions?
    With a few multi accounts one can that way basically eliminate direct competition as soon as they post offer.

    I am not signing anything recklessly before you think it through :p

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mumbly said:
    I am skeptical. I assume the plugin would only work in the offer category, right?

    All categories.

    Few thoughts:
    What about legitimate questions?

    They’ll get lost in the void. Only new threads and threads so useless nobody wants to reply will be seen. Only showing dead threads has worked for WHT so it surely would work here as well.

    With a few multi accounts one can that way basically eliminate direct competition as soon as they post offer.

    Yeah, get rekt.

    I am not signing anything recklessly before you think it through

    Your loss.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @plumberg said:

    @emgh said:

    @plumberg said:

    [@emgh said](/ I can code this no worries.

    Go for it. Code it on your Rise-S

    My it s love ryzen s

    Love progress to 69 yet?

    Yeah

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited January 2025

    Unless it's a "Shared Hosting Offers" category that @LEA didn't put it there. I am signing it blindly. You can wipe that off the face of the earth :p

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Mumbly said:
    Unless it's a "Shared Hosting Offers" category - you can wipe that off the face of the earth

    So you’re positive.

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  • @emgh said:

    @Mumbly said:
    Unless it's a "Shared Hosting Offers" category - you can wipe that off the face of the earth

    So you’re positive.

    Do it and you have my vote!

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  • suutsuut Member
    edited January 2025

    Keep the status quo until the rules are improved. Although spam makes some people unhappy, it also provides more traffic to the forum, usually called $.

    Some people feel they are being interrupted, so forums can do two things to reduce their dissatisfaction with being interrupted.

    • Provide a Dismiss feature for offers categories like announcement.
    • Topics can be sorted by posting time.
  • @Arkas said:

    @wadhah said: Yes please, I am a statistics nerd and I love real life numbers and stats

    ok

    314.159.265.358

    3.1415926539

  • @jar said:

    @itachikonoha said: Define spam

    Pure database rot. Posts that have absolutely no reason to be read by any website visitor except for the one person who requested that it be posted endlessly, repeatedly, and even then it means nothing to them that can expand to any greater purpose to any other reader. Even a little relatively useless comment is still a comment that could provide insight into someone's personality, these are purely junk database entries that could be completely removed after the fact and the forum would lose absolutely zero content for having done so. That's spam. Stop trying to gaslight everyone and muddy the waters, we all know it's spam.

    "we all know it's a spam" is taken lightly but the whole devil is there.

    Many of the people in this thread, who are writing these practices to be stopped; are in fact guilty of it in the BF megathread. Those spam comments served no body except creating noise.

    It wasn't even giveaway or post your invoice # to double the resources so there was no compulsion to post all those comments in the megathread yet, many people opted for it. And out of those, some are here in this thread calling out other spammers. But at the end of the day, those are not spam because it didn't violate forum guidelines nor moderators have put any notice to stop it. Till either one/both happens, those are valid post.

    Nobody wants to open the pandoras box i.e., what constitutes a spam because it creates complexities. I'll ask in a straight forward way.

    1. Post the invoice double the resource. - Is it spam? If yes, then how should one approach towards this strategy? Since there will be many new patron providers, they will be burried among the giant ones who had been here for years otherwise. By above, we can calculate the matrix how a even new provider is selling something which is currently a hot product in the town and popular. What alternative route should we implement if above is considered spam? As a buyer, how I can measure that matrix?

    2. Giveaway: What alternative method you propose for giveaway since all are considered as spam in this thread?

    Point being, different providers will have different marketing strategy. While the old, reputed ones doesn't require mass selling but newer ones will most certainly require as they don't have much returning clients.

    In order to stop spamming, one should consider both the cases and in order to do that (to formulate a rule devoid of ambiguity), the basics of what is spam needs to be defined first in my opinion.

    Otherwise, nothing will happen even after implementation of new rules since, people will just circumvent the new rule with some strategy to not to be considered as spam while the same practice will go on.

    One can already see its affect in, opening the previously closed threads on the account of being spam heaven. Why those threads needed to be open again instead of closing more?

  • plumbergplumberg Veteran, Megathread Squad

    How were providers selling before the post order number to double bandwidth? It's a fairly recent phenomenon.
    Quite a marketing stunt by one of the members that was consulted on how to make more noise and seek attention

  • itachikonohaitachikonoha Member
    edited January 2025

    @plumberg said:
    How were providers selling before the post order number to double bandwidth? It's a fairly recent phenomenon.
    Quite a marketing stunt by one of the members that was consulted on how to make more noise and seek attention

    It has a psychological impact.

    When you reinforce the "double" parameter time after time, it makes the product lucrative against the same product which just writes it in opening post. People will choose the former over the latter any day even if both are same.

    For buyers, it makes a huge difference.

    Is it spammy? Yes (in my opinion).
    Is it creative? Yes.
    Does it give more insight in selling matrices for a buyer? Yes.
    Is there any alternative route which will be less spammy yet could give the same benefits? - Haven't seen one as of yet.

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  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR

    If you order any annual plan, we will give you DOUBLE RAM AND BANDWIDTH/free port upgrade! Just comment on your Order number # or invoice number below.

    So this is finally being 'fixed' and not allowed?

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  • gksgks Member

    I tend to believe that those order number posting helps to increase the sales, some seriousness of people buying, though it is annoying others, but excite crowd mentality.

    Adding a weightage for thread would help to push down old threads. Adding certain aggregate filters, having offer link on top as one menu, many ways around.

  • DBADBA Member

    Perhaps for such threads show an additional "ignore" button like the current "bookmark' icon on the right side. It is only a few very active such threads getting bumped by new posts so often that is annoying. A quick way to ignore them would let each user decide.

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  • @EthernetServers said: Add the ability for people to hide threads in the offers forum from showing up on the index page.

    good idea.
    in this context, you could also implement an ignore function for users at the same time.

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  • So this thread has 12 pages already. Shouldn't it be closed? Cannot follow what the point is in 12 pages if there is no LET rule about the original post. If it's set in rules, then it's rules. Otherwise it's just another thread. I do not see it in the rules, and the proposal is vague, so, what to make of this?

  • "Comment your order# for xyz upgrade/free resource/discount %". While I agree it does not add to forum content value, the offers are a platform for sales. I think if the rule is set, then it is a rule. Otherwise this is not the thread providers were looking for. It creates disarray on what is allowed and what is not, and room for some providers to take heed and others not. If this is the case, then why not just limit the amount of pages a offer thread can have then auto close? Say 10 to 30? but but but, the biggest fish in the pond may complain as they have multiple hundred pages threads kept alive by some odd grace... :wink:

  • Yet again, defence of spam… No wonder that such figures as Trump won the election :-/ . Anyway, yes topic could be closed because there is no meaningful discussion, only circle jerking.

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  • In fact lots of motivation on both sides, but few suggestions

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  • kevindskevinds Member, LIR

    @itachikonoha said:
    Is it spammy? Yes (in my opinion).
    Is it creative? Yes.
    Does it give more insight in selling matrices for a buyer? Yes.
    Is there any alternative route which will be less spammy yet could give the same benefits? - Haven't seen one as of yet.

    Does it?

    The 'double' could just be part of the offer in the first place. It isn't free, it is assumed in the price that it will be sold as the larger value. If really necessary for some reason, share the number via a direct/private message.

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  • @kevinds said:

    @itachikonoha said:
    Is it spammy? Yes (in my opinion).
    Is it creative? Yes.
    Does it give more insight in selling matrices for a buyer? Yes.
    Is there any alternative route which will be less spammy yet could give the same benefits? - Haven't seen one as of yet.

    Does it?

    The 'double' could just be part of the offer in the first place. It isn't free, it is assumed in the price that it will be sold as the larger value. If really necessary for some reason, share the number via a direct/private message.

    The whole point is so that the thread gets put back to the top. Which means it is always on the front page and advertisement can easily be seen by other visitors :D If share via dm then thread is dead and if no activity could be on 2nd or 3rd page which means the flyer has flown away :D

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  • @Levi said:
    Yet again, defence of spam… No wonder that such figures as Trump won the election :-/ . Anyway, yes topic could be closed because there is no meaningful discussion, only circle jerking.

    $pam is a necessary evil.

    so is €ngag€m€nt

  • @cybertech said: €ngag€m€nt

    $pam

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  • tjntjn Member

    This thread was super effective.

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  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @tjn said: This thread was super effective.

    A lot more than you think.

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  • 12 Page of nothing. No new rules, only spam and good dollah $$$ for guud spam. Niceh

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    Balls have been grabbed by the claw of terror from BilohBucks

This discussion has been closed.