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NameCrane Black Friday - CraneMail Email Hosting + Cloud Storage Launch with Lifetime Deal

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  • @NameCrane said:

    @UQWA said:
    Is the eM Client Pro version a subversion update or a lifetime update version?

    I believe it's just 1 year of updates on the license they bundle. 1 license/3 devices, 1 year of updates. Unclear if SmarterMail allow you to generate a new one after that first year.

    I can’t answer the renewal aspect (I’m sure their support can but), however I was already looking to buy emClient prior to your deal and subsequently finding out about the free license, which I’m using for now.

    I was interested to know if I could use the free SmarterMail license to buy a lifetime emClient license, and then keep it in the event that SmarterMail doesn’t renew its agreement with emClient or there’s no renewal option. Emailed emClient asking and they confirmed that if you pay for the lifetime upgrade to emClient, you then own that license irrespective of what does or does not happen with SmarterMail

    Hello,

    Thank you for reaching out with your questions regarding the emClient license and the SmarterTools offer.

    If you upgrade to a Lifetime license using the activation key provided by your SmarterTools subscription, that license will remain valid regardless of any changes to your email provider in the future. Once a Lifetime license is activated, it is yours permanently, independent of the email service you are using. So, if you decide to move away from SmarterTools later on, your Lifetime license for emClient will still work without any issues.

    If you have any further questions or need assistance with the upgrade process, feel free to ask.

    Best regards,

    I’m undecided if I’ll actually do this as it’s still expensive for a “what if” scenario. I could bet on the SmarterMail license renewing and there never being any impact, and save the $150AUD. It would however be cheaper to upgrade through this license than to buy a new one from emClient direct, which is $50-$100AUD (depending on sales) plus the $150AUD lifetime addin. Can bypass the $50-$100 client purchase basically. FWIW I can see no evidence that they ever discount the lifetime addon, so that is what it is.

    Probably not much use for most people, but something to know anyway. If a new person wanted to buy emClient it’d make sense for them to go via Name Crane or a similar partner of SmarterMail and access the software that way.

    Thanked by 3bdl NameCrane ElonBezos
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @phuctran said: Better security. There's no 2FA options for DA's webmail (that I know of).

    This is correct.

    There is an official 2FA plugin for roundcube, but it's pretty expensive and I'm meh over RC anyway. Very take it or leave it.

    Francisco

  • @NameCrane said:
    The FOMO from the Europeans is real 👀

    They care about the privacy matter more.

  • @kkrajk said:

    @Francisco said: ... sorry? you said you could receive, but then not?

    Guess he means when he sends them out the receiver could receive them but hes unable to receive emails addressed to him.

    @zhao_yun check your mx records

    That's ok, thank you

  • @Smigit said:

    Probably not much use for most people, but something to know anyway.

    Thanks for chasing this, it's good to know. I"m testing the eM client right now and pretty impressed with it.

    Thanked by 1Smigit
  • @bdl said:

    @Smigit said:

    Probably not much use for most people, but something to know anyway.

    Thanks for chasing this, it's good to know. I"m testing the eM client right now and pretty impressed with it.

    How does it compare to Spark?

    Or say whats the key differentiator in eM?

  • @Francisco said:

    @zhao_yun said: I am able to send emails and receive them. However, unable to receive emails, where is the problem?

    ... sorry? you said you could receive, but then not?

    Francisco

    It's already done. I reconfigured it

  • @manuv said:

    @bdl said:

    @Smigit said:

    Probably not much use for most people, but something to know anyway.

    Thanks for chasing this, it's good to know. I"m testing the eM client right now and pretty impressed with it.

    How does it compare to Spark?

    Or say whats the key differentiator in eM?

    I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    Thanked by 2giang kkrajk
  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Multi said: I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    It's well integrated if you want contacts/calendars/chat all integrated in a desktop client.

    Francisco

  • @Multi said:

    I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    Btw, the chat ( xmpp ) works for you with SSL on Thunderbird?

  • @risturiz said:

    @Multi said:

    I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    Btw, the chat ( xmpp ) works for you with SSL on Thunderbird?

    I have never tried chatting in Thunderbird. Didn't even know you could use it for chatting.

  • When will this deal end?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @Multi said:

    @risturiz said:

    @Multi said:

    I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    Btw, the chat ( xmpp ) works for you with SSL on Thunderbird?

    I have never tried chatting in Thunderbird. Didn't even know you could use it for chatting.

    Full built in camp that integrates with the users on your domain :)

    Francisco

  • Is it possible to provide a roundcube frontend? Just too familiar to its UI

  • @Multi said:

    @manuv said:

    @bdl said:

    @Smigit said:

    Probably not much use for most people, but something to know anyway.

    Thanks for chasing this, it's good to know. I"m testing the eM client right now and pretty impressed with it.

    How does it compare to Spark?

    Or say whats the key differentiator in eM?

    I am currently using Thunderbird and I'm not sure why a "normal" user would switch. It takes ages to start the app compared to Thunderbird (Win 11, 2s vs 11s) and doesn't offer "killer features" for the average user in my opinion. I would love to hear the key features why people are using eM Client instead of Thunderbird or even the Webmail. I mean if it's free I am more than happy to explore the options with the software.

    Unified UI across all platform which helps with deploying to non-technical family members :)

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @satorik said: Is it possible to provide a roundcube frontend? Just too familiar to its UI

    Maybe I can put something up, but lordy :P

    Francisco

    Thanked by 3satorik kkrajk manuv
  • I've read all 24 pages (took a while) and just wanted to confirm. @Francisco you mentioned you won't migrate data from US to EU once it's available. Does data refer to uploaded user files, emails etc. or the customer's account data on your side?

    For example, if a user purchase a plan now and idles it until EU is ready, is it possible for their account to be migrated to EU if they want?

  • @oriend said:
    I've read all 24 pages (took a while) and just wanted to confirm. @Francisco you mentioned you won't migrate data from US to EU once it's available. Does data refer to uploaded user files, emails etc. or the customer's account data on your side?

    For example, if a user purchase a plan now and idles it until EU is ready, is it possible for their account to be migrated to EU if they want?

    Nope ,

  • @oriend said:
    I've read all 24 pages (took a while) and just wanted to confirm. @Francisco you mentioned you won't migrate data from US to EU once it's available. Does data refer to uploaded user files, emails etc. or the customer's account data on your side?

    For example, if a user purchase a plan now and idles it until EU is ready, is it possible for their account to be migrated to EU if they want?

    Nope

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @oriend said:
    I've read all 24 pages (took a while) and just wanted to confirm. @Francisco you mentioned you won't migrate data from US to EU once it's available. Does data refer to uploaded user files, emails etc. or the customer's account data on your side?

    For example, if a user purchase a plan now and idles it until EU is ready, is it possible for their account to be migrated to EU if they want?

    EU will cost more. It’s a bunch more work for us to invoice the difference and all that.

    It’s not going to be double the price or something, you guys are in full freak out.

    Francisco

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @NameCrane, not sure If you ran out of stock or the link to the correct page has changed, in which case let me know and I'll update it, but the 3 year plan mentioned on page 1 does not show up.

  • T3T3 Member

    @Arkas said:
    @NameCrane, not sure If you ran out of stock or the link to the correct page has changed, in which case let me know and I'll update it, but the 3 year plan mentioned on page 1 does not show up.

    It's the $10/year plan, just choose Triennially billing.

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • manuvmanuv Member
    edited December 2024

    @Francisco said:

    @oriend said:
    I've read all 24 pages (took a while) and just wanted to confirm. @Francisco you mentioned you won't migrate data from US to EU once it's available. Does data refer to uploaded user files, emails etc. or the customer's account data on your side?

    For example, if a user purchase a plan now and idles it until EU is ready, is it possible for their account to be migrated to EU if they want?

    EU will cost more. It’s a bunch more work for us to invoice the difference and all that.

    It’s not going to be double the price or something, you guys are in full freak out.

    Francisco

    Considering ~15-20 folks are active in this thread ; isn't it chump change for you / namecrane to forget about the "difference" and provision it without re-invoicing? :tongue:

    I just added domain and just playing around with UX - so far so good. Need to get some getting used to & figure out what's available and what's not.

    Like someone else pointed out, I am NOT gonna use the webmail as long as compose triggers a popup. It need to be fixed asap.

    Also the webpage which generates the auto credentials (postmaster) - can it include a "print" button as well.

    Edit - having a hard time embedding image here. Image link here - https://pasteboard.co/Q6XCcvsRj6Oh.png

    I have 2 emails in my inbox - both from domains owned by me - hosted on Gworkspac. Both landed in my inbox of Namecrane and hovering over sender verification, both have "this is likely valid address but not in your contacts". I don't have spamassassin enabled - just default settings as of now.

    I am confused with which one is flagged as "spam" in the analytics page or what attribute triggered x or y to be spam?. As of now there's no way to pinpoint it or to find which specific email is cross referenced in the analytics page.

  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2024

    Is there a way to get details of the number of emails sent by a user ?
    Can see reports for the domain but not a user. (edit) Just found the user selection option.
    Also I am from the UK and really would like the date format changed to dd/mm/yy particularly in the reports.

    Thanked by 1kkrajk
  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @Fritz said: They care about the privacy matter more.

    You mean the GDRP thing? Why not encrypt everything? Is there a practical difference based on reality if it is hosted in the U.S. or the European nations? 5 eyes and all (or is it 15 eyes? I don't remember, I encrypt just in case).

  • @Arkas said:

    @Fritz said: They care about the privacy matter more.

    You mean the GDRP thing? Why not encrypt everything? Is there a practical difference based on reality if it is hosted in the U.S. or the European nations? 5 eyes and all (or is it 15 eyes? I don't remember, I encrypt just in case).

    Encryption is not possible while handling mails. I don't think you can convince every sender to encrypt the mails they send you.

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @Multi said: Encryption is not possible while handling mails. I don't think you can convince every sender to encrypt the mails they send you.

    Yes of course. I meant the storage. But does it make a practical difference between these 2 locations or is it more of a perceived privacy?

  • malhudamalhuda Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2024

    @NameCrane @Francisco
    please check ticket
    CRANE-6768

  • @Arkas said:

    @Multi said: Encryption is not possible while handling mails. I don't think you can convince every sender to encrypt the mails they send you.

    Yes of course. I meant the storage. But does it make a practical difference between these 2 locations or is it more of a perceived privacy?

    For me it's the later. There most likely isn't a huge difference but I prefer to keep as much data as possible within the EU. Thats why I'm moving away from MXRoute although I'm more than happy with their service for 8 years now. Dunno why they moved the server to the US without even informing the users.

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