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oh welp, time to pack up
From 20TB to 1TB???
So they weren't able to compete with the American duopoly (triopoly)?
Would it be correct to suggest that they're used to the "more fish in the pond, but it's smaller" situation, while in the US it is "noticeably less fish, but it's much bigger"?
Is it the White Monday or the White Thursday then?
The 1TB is what gets me. Maybe reduce to 5TB or something but this is a wtf moment. Thank God for my idlers to move into and oracle cloud free tier as a suppliment. I know I have until February but what a rug pull on their part. It is what it is though.
Fock Germans and specially forck HetzShiot ahahahahaha, fockers eat ma azz
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/180504/hetzner-traffic-use-notice-unlimited-unlimited/p1
I'm curious what their goals are for their business. It seems they are going through a change into something a bit different. Maybe moving towards whaling instead of having many small customers maybe they want some larger ones?
I shutdown like 15 Hetzner cloud servers today. Got about 30 more which I will be replacing before this change goes into effect.
It's been a long time since I've actually looked at bandwidth offerings on cloud servers. But looking at Linode and DO just now, this change looks to be industry appropriate at least.
They got shaky legs and changed now before trump gets in position or try to absorb high costs for singapore.
Don't forget, on december 3 something great is around the corner.
20TB at 3.85EUR per month is simply unsustainable. Their EU locations probably rely mostly on private interconnects and can offset costs this way, but if they actually have to pay for this traffic via transit or real IX, no way. I suspect something similar will happen to their EU locations as well at some point, but not to this drastic level, though.
And some numbers - at 100Gbit commit, say you can get pricing per mbps down to 0.04EUR, at ideal traffic patterns, you are looking at 3.15EUR for the 20TB bandwidth alone. That's excluding hardware, power, support and etc.
Alex
And I will introduce to them the reverse subscription.
They do already. There is large thread here about it.
Great time to buy from OVH. Especially if you need a lot of bandwidth.
What product is this?
VLE-4 in Vint Hill.
I'm thinking buyvm, clouvider, crunchbits, incognet, ovh might be the most competitive providers ATM. Does anyone else know of who else has at least some of their own equipment and a very solid network?
Plus Hetzners excess bandwidth pricing is still €1/TB which is roughly 10x cheaper than their direct competitors at DO/Linode.
That too might change and for some OVH or decidedly more budget hosts will fit their needs better, but this change isn't the end of the line for Hetzner, just a mild disappointment for certain users.
Most of my Hetzner cloud servers use under 1TB of bandwidth per month, and they're not the smallest servers either.
I stopped using Hetzner for dedicated servers when they increased their IP prices, and now I'll stop using their cloud when they increase those prices.
Can't complain about that. Sometimes it IS a matter of principle.
I rly thought you were using all those cloud servers to push some serious traffic, obviously not.
Yeah, this is a pretty drastic move, 20x less bandwidth together with price increase... in a way... they need to be punished.
That is a massive 19TB drop! What was their reasoning for this massive short-notice change? I am not a user, just wondering what horrible thing happened that they took such drastic measures! This is almost like a rug pull move. Maybe I am wrong, but wouldn’t that be like a huge bill for some customers already maintaining themselves to less than a 20TB? It’s not a small bump on a bill, this should be communicated!
If they were hitting exactly 20TB and consuming the whole quota then with the new limits their bill would increase by around 19 euros. Which is a lot when the VM is a few bucks, but is not insanely expensive when compared to similar clouds like DO/Linode/Vultr (if you compare to OVH on the other hand, the calculations become more difficult but its maybe cheaper overall)
Reading between the lines of the reason they gave, it sounds like they regret setting the Europe and US bandwidth quota to be the same value and were losing money from giving that much away for free in the US where their network setup is probably very different.
It's not nothing though , it could be 10-20% cost increase easily on a monthly basis per server.
So what are some suitable replacements?
Can anyone come close to the uptime and hardware for the price? I know nobody can probably offer 20 tb, but what about 5 tb?
@Hetzner_OL Hey Katie, wondering if this was this the real Black Friday deal Hetzner was going to announce?
The reasoning is that 20 TB excess traffic was more expensive than another cloud server with 20 TB traffic.
And this happened: https://www.eurojust.europa.eu/news/crackdown-illegal-streaming-network-22-million-users-worldwide
I will be migrating to @Clouvider
Comparable specs, double bandwidth for BF when commenting, so 10TB, and super reliable.
Hetzner has lost all credibility with me, and I will be closing my account with them.
Maybe consider Netcup's new US east location. They offer dedicated resources at super competitive price. I'm migrating to them after this.
I really don't get this price increase from Hetzner. People went to them for the lowest prices. The uptime is good, but the cpu ram disk pricing is not the best anymore even if you disregard bandwidth.
20 tb bandwidth was too good, but lowering it down to 1-2tb just makes it the same as every non-hyperscaler provider. There's no more advantage to using Hetzner anymore.
I'll be migrating a server to clouvider. Will see how they do now, I left them back in 2021 due to their network support being overloaded.
Netcup is not a suitable replacement, they only offer 2tb and then throttle you no matter how big of a plan you have.