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Yes I know but I'm trying to understand how aneesh can declare calin stole the money
@malignify
Pardon me if my english is wrong but if i pay you 20k$ for a service with no service provided and no assurance of a refund either.
Would it be called stealing or gifting or what please do let me know.
Would it be stealing if gossd themself sent money and then later decide let it go?
So if A commits a crime to B and B choose not to report him is A not a criminal..?
Proof A committed crime to B?
I think Trump would argue that 1st point, yes that's how it's supposed to work, but activists in robes don't make it possible now
And I am asking him why he didn't provide the servers when he had access to the funds in his bank account. Client waited mths for him to provide them while Calin had access to the funds and he didn't. This point has nothing to do with guilt or innocence, it is a simple question he wont answer. He just says funds are frozen now with no proof. He wants any thread discussing it closed by the mods a soon as possible.
he also did not provide convincing evidence that he is right, and his excuses here are also his opinion on this situation, no more, no less. And they go to court when specific arguments and facts and statements from one person do not reach another and then there is a deep problem. And not just because one person has one opinion, and another has another about a specific situation. I am not hunting witches here, and I am not trying to ruin his business that he has now. I just called things by their proper names. I also understand you, that you, as a businessman with a similar business that arose from a garage, understand how difficult it is to grow up and keep going, much less scale up. As I understand that on the one hand, you have a conditionally decent attitude towards young talents who are trying to create the same business. On the third hand, you are trying to show that the facts are not enough to accuse him of something. But here the situation is not even 60% in his favor for him to do everything in his power to resolve this issue. Well, as you said, free countries, freedom of expression. But once again emphasizing many aspects, I understand as you do - and I do not strive to make this provider go out of business at all. But I also do not want to see such an incorrect solution to the issue as here on the forum for months - that's why I said everything I think.
Yes - both made mistakes.
So suppose calin did steal the money, it's just a criminal stealing from another criminal, who cares. The amount of criminals in the world remain the same.
Hey! How dare you doubting gossd's cousin/alter ego/gofor, uhm, aneshwhatever's "EVIDENCE!!!" of, oh well, whatever? FACT is that Calin spent money, ergo he must have scammed gossd! Because that's the ONLY source of money for Calin!
In other news, pradip (gossd's other cousin) spent no money but stole 2 apples because (please, cry a river at this point) he has no money because Calin ruined him as well. His new car was financed via the income of his two call centers which rip off, uhm "help and advise", dozens of people each and every day.
Do they also have solid and serious providers in India? I guess they do - but gossd is not one of these.
You demand proof for what I said? Here you go:
and
Gossd was wrong too.
But this is not Calins first mistake.
proof A didn't commit crime to B?
Nobody cares but throw both the criminals out from the forum.
I didn't go around accusing anybody of stealing. It's you. Why turning tables around now when I ask for proof to back your accusation of calin stealing?
Nobody received in his inbox that message where they have a video with you and send some bitcoins .. ? @emgh
I guess he just couldn't (buy the servers) because that money was, at least a major part of it, needed to buy those servers so as to be able to provide the service the funny company in India wanted.
Keep in mind that (AFAIK) Calin is mainly offering VPS (as opposed to dedis)
And being at it, just throw out some of the worst engaged in witch hunts as well... especially when pretty much all their posts so far fall into that category. Getting rid of e.g. you would be, uhm, let me think, ... exactly zero loss for our community.
@jsg if you want your FREE vps resources to be quadrupled i am willingly leaving this community for you.
Thank you! All the best benchmarking till the next exit scam by your favorite Romanian provider.
it does feels like powertrip. LET might weirdly recruit some people that were bullied in school so they really fallen in love with the concept of power in some $7 tibetian strawhat weaving forum.
i don't think calin can get away with "incompetence" this time (in LET, at least).
normally, you'd make mistake, get called out, then work on that to be a better yourself.
but remember, this isn't calin's first time as pointed in gossd's thread, especially the crypto address tracking
OGF is weak, lack of traffic & activity. i doubt calin will get b& over there considering the T3 AI Datacenter with high cpu steal & io wait (weekly downtime included) also still being active.
$20k you say? that's nothing. try this
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3902130/#Comment_3902298
oh also https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3931359#Comment_3931051
am i nooticing a certain pattern with this mod? nah it must be coincidence
What a nasty and lie-spreading person you are. But that's known already and no further evidence was needed.
(a) I do not have any free vps resources
(b) I'm not interested in the resources I do have being quadrupled
(c) As if you had any influence whatsoever on that anyway, you big-mouth (only)!
(d) Why to you drag @host_c who is my favourite romanian provider into this? Note btw that I'm fully content and happy with the VPS I have from him - paid and plain standard model as advertised and sold here during his promo. I do not even desire more resources as what I have already is more than I need (and I said so publicly).
@Not_Oles, @Arkas This guy has spread enough BS and lies and attemped plenty enough attacks. IMO you'd do our community a favour to at least temp ban him; after all he's certainly not better than @Andreix, quite the contrary.
What does this mean?
Because you're incorrect.
That wasn't other people's money, it was Calin's money. Other people didn't send money to his bank. The crypto payment from others wasn't confiscated - it reached Calin's crypto wallet safely with his guarantee that he will refund it if there is any issue. Payment was there. He got it without any issue.
What he did later with this earned money, without providing service to the client, is solely his responsibility. He chose to convert crypto to fiat. That was his own transaction being investigated by the bank, not the transaction between Calin and the client. How is that the client's concern?
He still owes service/refund to the client.
What good are those definition games for? Money is my money from the point on when I can dispose of it. That point seems to not have been reached, so it's not @Calin's money nor, to be fair is it gossd's. The party in control of that money currently still seems to be the bank, or possibly not even the bank but the authorities.
I happened to learn that lesson the hard way when I got a cheque (many years ago) but it turned out to not be covered, hence I found my account balance unchanged. And that was a cheque! That is, a means of transferring money that was very well known and established as opposed to "crypto-currency".
Ask yourself before your every post. Mental gymnastics, empty paragraphs, and so on are your very own modus operandi.
What you fail to understand is that the payment from Gossd for the service he purchased safely reached Calin. It wasn't confiscated.
He neither provided the service nor issued a refund.
What he did with this money (and potentially other clients' payments) that was lying in his crypot wallet later is his own business and not the client's concern.
He put that responsibility on his client, and that’s just not okay. He still owes him either the service or a refund.
OK, I see you are back to your usual "arguments not needed, just do an ad hominem" ...
Yes and no, it seems to have reached @Calin's crypto wallet but that's != "Calin has control over the money".
And yes, it wasn't confiscated as far as is known, but that's definition games again, because the relevant point is whether Calin can actually practically use the money, i.e. not crypto-crap, and buy what's needed to provide the service that gossd or gossd's customer wants and kind of paid for.
Funny btw that you seem to really assume that you are intellectually superior to me ("What you fail to understand ..."). I find that even more amusing because understanding is superfluous for what you are doing, which basically boils down to "burn the witch Calin! He's guilty, guilty, guilty because, uhm, that's how I see it - and no facts will change that".
But thanks for the, albeit, not surprisingly, rather crude and clumsy performance!
Say, you don't happen to be aneshwhatever's cousin, do you?
P.S. thanks also for the "evidence" screenshot, which clearly shows that understanding isn't your strength. Because that "evidence" clearly shows Calin about "not stealing money in case the wallet is bad" (which I presume means something like "problems with the crypto-crap").
So, look up the definition of 'stealing'. Hint: it's not "bank freezes the funds" nor is it "bank wants to have more information".
Tafak are you writing?
Are you that naive? The same was with cociu and nexusbytes. "He is not bad...", until it is. And than what? You better structure your "logical" approach and add a grain of wisdom and knowledge about human nature.
People tend to change faces very fast in opportunity to enrich themselves. This "calin" persona is the classic crook.
There’s no "yes and no", it was just "yes" (Calin received payment in crypto exactly as they agreed, without any issues) and your usual modus operandi when you can’t admit that you’re wrong, so you return some random nonsense that is completely irrelevant to the argument you’re responding to.
I don't assume that anymore, I know it. I mean, aren't you the guy who constantly defends deadpooled hosts, gaslights completely valid people's concerns, fight with them with strawman arguments, and so on?
In that way, you do nothing but cause damage.
You have a long history of fighting scammed forum members for the sake of it. What normal, intellectually capable person would do that all the time?
You feel like you’re neutrally swimming against the stream while you’re a radicalized meme that does nothing but cause damage around.
Was there a single moment in your life when you took a step back, admitted that you were wrong, and apologized to the people for attacking them with false accusations? Yeah, right.
Nah, I am his grandmom. And? Will you go all psycho now?
seeing @aneesh120 living rent free in @jsg's head everyday is my second favourite part of LET
@Mumbly
Thanks for that great comedy performance, finally someone who made me LOL in this witch hunt thread and "intellectually superior" Indians, hahaha!
Of course you can dream. It's free and you seem to enjoy it.
Fact however is that I do not even remember his name for more than a minute (and hence write "aneshwhatever").
@jsg
To be honest, I have no clue what you wanted to say, but it sounds bitter.
Let me guess: it’s again your terrible urge to have the last word in the argument without having anything relevant to say, so there's that...?
@Mumbly
Sorry, you've already gotten enough attention...