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No need for bold statements, he appropriated other people's money. And cryptocurrency is currently valued as property. Any jurisdiction will prove that he is illegally withholding funds. If I were in the place of the victim, I would have resolved this issue without problems in court, even in Romania. If you do not have to deal with such issues, do not claim that nothing can be proven in court. He is only lucky that he is in Romania, where these issues are a little more difficult, but still solvable. Stop saying that this is his incompetence, this is a special way of earning large sums of money on unsuspecting people. Yes, on the forum, people are unjustifiably banned for telling the truth about real actions on the part of a user from whom everyone demanded real actions. Forcing everyone to remain silent in this way is also wrong.
Lmao
I really work with cryptocurrencies and know many legal aspects in European countries perfectly, in principle, as in America. You can laugh as much as you want, I'm not going to prove anything here
Dude, you think this was planned and successfully executed? You know he's just a kid, right? No business experience or training. He learns as he goes. This was a learning lesson for him.
Seriously? I was trying to tell people to use their brain and think about it, you went the other way and doubled down.
Ok mr crypto specialist(mcs)
Firstly, he is not a child as you call him, he is not 10 years old after all. Secondly, even if he is a teenager, in our time you need to be able to take responsibility for your actions at any age, and not look for the reason that he is a teenager did not realize what he was doing, or did not know how to do it right. If you are so sure that he is a child and made a mistake - ok, we can forgive him for this mistake and say that it was not done intentionally, if this was the first such case in practice. At the moment, this is not the first such case on his part. Secondly, if he is a child - then let it be like everywhere in civilized countries - parents are responsible for their child, and they will pay damages to a person, according to what their child did to the victim. Stop constantly defending only one side and keeping everyone here on a short leash. I am not trying to get him put in jail or punished, I only said one thing - all issues should be resolved in the right way and fairly. It is possible in a normal way and without any courts - but return the money to the victim. Also in this matter everything is more than obvious that if this is not a planned action, then it was done in such a way that I am like a child and nothing can be done about it, understand and forgive me, and also forget about your money. This approach is categorically unacceptable - especially if you started and are developing your business, and you prove to everyone here on the forum that you are an active businessman and you have clients every day who bring you $ 4000-5000 easily.
I find it regrettable to ban or cancel users who claim that a user in the community stole 22k and they just label him to continue operating/answering as if nothing happened, it's regrettable, where's the freedom of expression? Don't you think @Calin should be banned just like evoshosting, users with a regrettable history continue in the community, what will happen is very regrettable, we hope not to be banned or blocked for telling the truth.
Even some users have said like #mike who announced that blocked providers should not have their assets and that they only did to embarrass them who were the ones who published or reported some publications, please enough of providers that only last 1 or 2 months.
I wonder what colour Calin gets. Purple is already taken.
Don't probe my network pal & Don't forget that I am not @Andreix. Xo xo.
Thanks for providing a good example of extreme bias.
FYI: @Not_Oles did not cover @Calin but he stopped you from again and again recklessly spreading BS and nonsense.
Proof? - and I don't mean "LET detective reports" but tangible solid proof that would be admitted at court, in other words real proof.
Btw, as far as is known, Calin did not appropriate other people's money. It's blocked in the bank.
"integrity advisor" - Hahaha. Plus, you didn't "point out" but accuse without proper facts and even bending the truth. And not for the first time, you seem to run a private war against romanian providers.
"that" meaning the alleged scamming? If so, just look what an admin (@DP) just told @Calin. Doesn't sound even the least bit lenient.
or "that" meaning your obtrusively led private war? If so @Not_Oles' relatively mild temporary ban should be a very clear hint.
If I may, a personal remark: I'm not disliking you. In fact I've seen smart and interesting posts from you - but when it comes to romanian providers, in particular Calin you seem to quite reliably turn into beast mode.
Cool down, man, and solve your problem (loss of self-control and rationality and "beast mode") ... and you'll have a good time here and even get some respect.
And from relentlessly poking at @host_c.
^This.^
now seriously, if the other party don’t want that income back, how you see this?
I think it's not fair to block/ban @Andreix, he only published what 95% of the community thinks, a person whose posts indicated that he accepted all kinds of content and that means that he would bring clients and someone incredulous deposited 22k and only lost his money because of a kid who only stole from him and at the cost of that he improved his network, created a company in Africa as a tycoon, it's regrettable that those kinds of people belong to the community!! He's no longer the boy from the basement but from the skyscraper! don't ban me please.
It's blocked in the bank.
This thread is already derailed so..
There is no "proof" of this either. The only proof I have seen is Calin actually recording himself logging into his bank portal and accessing the funds to attempt a bank wire transfer, only he sent it as domestic instead of international and fucked it up.
So the funds were transferred from coinbase to his bank account with no issues at this point. He could have bought the servers he promised the client at this point no? Why didn't he?
And he said he was going to the bank the next day, he never did.
So the only actual proof I have seen is from Calin himself recording himself accessing the funds thru his bank portal. They were not frozen at this point.
Calin is the only one claiming the funds are frozen now and if you take his word as proof then you have to take everyone else's word as proof as well
Where did the money go after cashing out, as I understand it, through the direct sale of cryptocurrency on the exchange and a request to withdraw funds directly from the exchange to Kalin's bank account? The money did not hang in the air, they were sent to the bank and Kalin is listed as the recipient, but the bank blocked this transfer. Also, he was not given cash in hand. If you do not understand, any exchange has p2p services that allow you to exchange cryptocurrency through them and so that the user can pay you with a regular transfer to a cash account, calling it a personal transfer or a transfer for the provision of any service (for example, selling servers in Kalin's case) and the like - and then there would be no problems with withdrawing money to the account. Especially if Kalin divided this amount into several transfers, and did not make them on the same day, but did it sequentially over several days. It would be even better if he split it into 4 parts and made transfers to 2 different bank accounts from different banks. Yes, the bank could ask him again why he receives SWIFT transfers and so on in currency from users, but he could always justify it by the fact that he has an open company and provides services for the sale of servers and equipment. Also, now it is not a problem anywhere to exchange cryptocurrency in person with a person for cash and this is also an exchange service without resorting to the help of a cryptocurrency exchange (there are a lot of such services in any country, although in Romania it may not be very safe, but I know for sure that they exist). Such services are easy to find in Telegram, Twitter and other means of communication that are very common in the crypto-loving world. Among other things, the bank in most cases asks about the origin of the funds of the original cryptocurrency, but you can always make a statement from any exchange account and justify that the cryptocurrency was earned by trading on the exchange, simply changing the account data on the exchange, such accounts, by the way, are also easily sold on the Internet. There are many more ways to solve this issue. But if he acted illiterately and failed to exchange the cryptocurrency correctly, then that's his problem, and in any case, the money was intended for him, not the bank. He is responsible for returning it at any cost. Until he returns it, no matter what, he is considered to have appropriated the money.
Those funds were off the books for a reason. Surely other party doesn't want it back. Speculatively speaking
@nohavps since the other party it doesn’t want their income back - we’re the only persons who does it fight for it. In the end, how can be this a scam?
Don't know, since I'm not involved and don't have any direct information and don't have relevant expertise. But my guess is that the bank doesn't want to do anything which might be questioned. Therefore, the bank might wait a while for instructions from the government or from the courts.
Again, I don't know, just guessing. . . .
Because that's the kind of clients @calin has, people who host unwanted content and don't want to fight for 22k, if they can lose 3/4/5 figure amounts they let it go, the unwanted person has the money.
That income are gone for good just because nobody run for it. In the meantime he can win the case and keep that income for him, a win-win situation.
This is how it looks completely and you speak very correctly and sensibly. I am also amazed that this user was blocked after only one notification that it is not worth writing anything in the thread. And as was mentioned here earlier, other users were not blocked for much greater violations. If you are strict about regulating the rules of what can be said and what cannot - make a regulation, after 3 warnings, and not so imperiously after one warning immediately send the user to the block. This is wrong and correctly noted, he expressed the thoughts of 95% of the entire community here, that's for sure, albeit in a very intrusive form. This form of expression could have been gently stopped by some forum participants if just 2-3 people in the same thread wrote to him without threats.
I wrote the options for solving at least this problem above, also if Kalin really showed what he withdrew from the coinbase exchange and what the real reasons for blocking funds on the bank account are - it is possible to propose a lot of solutions to get out of this situation even in Romania. He did not do this publicly and did not even ask for help and advice from the community if he does not know how to do this.
Im pretty sure in a month or two - he will get banned. It’s just a matter of time and patience.
https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4016049/#Comment_4016049
If the money has arrived to the account. They cannot be blocked in a day or two as a suspicious transaction. They are blocked immediately - this is the first nuance. The second nuance is that even if he transferred $9999 for a transfer to a bank account from the exchange, this nuance would not have happened if he made two consecutive transfers with an interval of at least 12 hours. In practice, I have not seen this in any European bank (I do not have a Romanian one), even when withdrawing funds from the exchange on weekends, so that after the funds have arrived to the account and in a working portal, the bank blocks such amounts after a few days. Blocks immediately. But this same Kalin showed that the funds were unfrozen, which means that the funds have arrived to the account. There is no normal information here about why and how this happened and what is the reason for blocking after a few days, as Kalin claims. Well, there is no point in citing his words as evidence - until we have clear evidence of why and how the bank blocked these funds. This means that the thoughts of the majority of participants in this community are completely justified and the moderators and administration should not deny this and categorically defend this provider, even despite the fact that he is a teenager.
after 16yr you have full right's
@mcs You forgot the part when the bank wanted to give the money back to the client, and the client was not able to give a valid name for the refund. Can you stop now? And stop derailing the thread? Criticize without even knowing the whole story or having read the whole story, stop being an expert on the Internet and go to bed.
And stop defending a possible criminal, (GoOD Hosting) who posted only a few messages and those being unclear in which he accuses me of this. I have contacted GoSSDHosting several times, he refuses to cooperate, I am tired of this case and by these "LET Detectives" who know everything.I'm waiting from Bank/authority , the real answer.
For those who say that I made this thread to promote myself, they are wrong, because we need some port speed of 100 Gbs (Don t work more 1 Gbs / 10 Gbs speedtests port's , that it s the request of customer)
For now we have:
http://iperf.online.net - 100GE
Speedtest.net ID: 13985 is a 100G speedtest.net server. in Amsterdam
IPA CyberLab, ID#48463, 400G
Thanks all what help with this request , if anyone know other 100 Gbs port's for speedtest (preferable from USA) , but any region it's fine please write me to PM
@Arkas @Not_Oles possible close this thread now
Thanks again all what help with this request
Did you or did you not transfer the funds from Coinbase to you bank account and you had access to the funds at this time? Already know you did cause you posted a video of it and sent it to GoOd Hosting.
Why didn't you buy his servers when you had access to the money in your bank account? You kept making excuses to him when he kept asking you for an update on delivering them. You only claimed the funds were frozen AFTER you sent him the video and he caught you screwing up the transfer by sending it domestic