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  • @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    ah, too bad, I don't have on-prem business in Frankfurt nowadays.
    But thanks for the invitation, maybe a chance comes up at some point and I'll write to you then, DC tours are always appreciated ^^

    Thanked by 1ProHosting24
  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @loay said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @Falzo said: @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    This! :)
    No one has seriously complained about your service. There may be some concerns about certain aspects from this and that client, which si normal, but most people here share just their observations, and the overall reception of your service is positive.

    People here also understand that you offer an unmanaged service. Infrastructure, etc., is your responsibility, but anything beyond that ... you are not obliged to offer support with clients' applications, and any extra assistance you provide is an act of kindness that shouldn’t be taken for granted or take too much of your time and energy.

    Yes i believe we just didn‘t clarify that strong enough in the first place.

    I need to add that i didn‘t feel attacked, but rather thought of it being incomprehensible that we need to lower the bars that much. But on the other hand we sold almost a thousand VMs, maybe its just a perception kind of thing.

    Yes, I was just sharing my observations. Sorry if my comments came across as criticism. This is a very generous offer, and your work on improving the performance is amazing.

    No, you are not part of the issue. ^^

    If I really had to choose from the users posted here, I would say that Hyperblast has annoyed me a little. But i understand his obsession, i also have my quirks with some very specific metrics on some applications that i am running.

    The most recent example of a LET user taking the cake was an individual that generated 83 TB of traffic in 7 days stating that we didn't specify that we don't offer unlimited bandwith on LET.
    Now he want his payments refunded. He will get his payment refunded and he will also never again be able to order anything from us. 😂

    How do you even handle that, you can't make this up haha

    Thanked by 1loay
  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @Falzo said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    ah, too bad, I don't have on-prem business in Frankfurt nowadays.
    But thanks for the invitation, maybe a chance comes up at some point and I'll write to you then, DC tours are always appreciated ^^

    Sure i will leave you my personal contact details!

    Thanked by 1Falzo
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    LET DC tour?

    m y i m take flight

    Thanked by 3ProHosting24 Falzo sh97
  • @ProHosting24 said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Falzo said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @hyperblast said:
    general observation: there has also been silence from @ProHosting24 for two days now. are they ducking away? ;)

    Hi please tag us with a quote of your previous question

    He is unhappy that the geekbench result show decreased numbers on the now filled nodes compared to the initial ones when everything was quite empty ;-)

    almost correct!
    do not expect values of 2000+ but more than 1100. 1500-1600+/- would be great.

    and i repeat myself: the deal of the year (so far), is already correct and above all stable compared to other specialists who have also offered deals here that were for the garbage.

    Someone explained it already pretty good, we made the mistake of creating a benchmark when there has been only one vm and no other workload running on such a 9554 node.

    It will not be possible to reach those results again without keeping host utilization somewhere around 15-20%

    I am starting to get tired by such inquiries, i am even starting to question why we do those offerings at all considering how bad our work is valued by single individuals and the amount of work that is being generated.

    We work very efficiently with a high level of automation, but given our growth and the amount of vms sold compared to the last time we had such an offer, we will no longer be able to handle this amount of time-consuming inquiries, even if we further improve our control panel.

    Therefore if we are going to post here again, we will consider the following:

    • do not post yabs
    • do not offer refunds
    • do not offer priority or any kind of operating system and application support
    • do not offer host migrations, regardless of source or destination host and current offer
    • do not answer all lowendtalk questions
    • block users repeating the same questions (didn't research if that's possible)

    it's a shame that you feel compelled to take such drastic measures or make such drastic statements. unfortunately, the whole thing comes across as a bit thin-skinned.
    i repeat myself, the vps is stable (much better than two other providers who recently only delivered crap) and the values are not super bad. but even ht-hosting had consistently better benchmark values with a very similar offer (but was super unstable).

    blocking users... well, there's no need to comment any further. that says more about you than about the users.

  • sh97sh97 Member, Host Rep

    @emgh said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    LET DC tour?

    m y i m take flight

  • damn. Threads for offers which are out of stock should be closed. Was wowed for a second looking at title and felt clickbaited next.

    Hope I get a chance to grab.

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @sh97 said:

    @emgh said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    LET DC tour?

    m y i m take flight

    my i recommend GoSSD this brand of flight

    KYC is ignore

    it s correct

    Regards

    Thanked by 2sh97 Marx
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @shaikhmanal said:
    damn. Threads for offers which are out of stock should be closed. Was wowed for a second looking at title and felt clickbaited next.

    Hope I get a chance to grab.

    it s correct

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited September 2024

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    i can join if you like, i also come roughly from the region. :)

    since i've annoyed you, it probably won't work out. never mind!

  • @Mumbly said:

    @Falzo said: @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    This! :)
    No one has seriously complained about your service. There may be some concerns about certain aspects from this and that client, which si normal, but most people here share just their observations, and the overall reception of your service is positive.

    People here also understand that you offer an unmanaged service. Infrastructure, etc., is your responsibility, but anything beyond that ... you are not obliged to offer support with clients' applications, and any extra assistance you provide is an act of kindness that shouldn’t be taken for granted or take too much of your time and energy.

    I couldn't have put it better! good man!

    Thanked by 1Mumbly
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @hyperblast said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    i can join if you like, i also come roughly from the region. :)

    I’m not even kidding if we’re doing DC tour with the infra explained followed by beers I’ll take a flight

  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited September 2024

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    frankfurt is much closer then leopoldshöhe! ;)

    since i've annoyed you, it probably won't work out. never mind!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    Although please schedule activities by time (full-day) and don’t mention alcohol so that my flight and hotel is tax deductible @ProHosting24

  • @loay said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @Falzo said: @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    This! :)
    No one has seriously complained about your service. There may be some concerns about certain aspects from this and that client, which si normal, but most people here share just their observations, and the overall reception of your service is positive.

    People here also understand that you offer an unmanaged service. Infrastructure, etc., is your responsibility, but anything beyond that ... you are not obliged to offer support with clients' applications, and any extra assistance you provide is an act of kindness that shouldn’t be taken for granted or take too much of your time and energy.

    Yes i believe we just didn‘t clarify that strong enough in the first place.

    I need to add that i didn‘t feel attacked, but rather thought of it being incomprehensible that we need to lower the bars that much. But on the other hand we sold almost a thousand VMs, maybe its just a perception kind of thing.

    Yes, I was just sharing my observations. Sorry if my comments came across as criticism. This is a very generous offer, and your work on improving the performance is amazing.

    I claim the same for myself!

    Thanked by 1ProHosting24
  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @hyperblast said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    frankfurt is much closer then leopoldshöhe! ;)

    Haha thats great, i‘d be happy to invite you if you‘re down for that.

  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:
    Although please schedule activities by time (full-day) and don’t mention alcohol so that my flight and hotel is tax deductible @ProHosting24

    @emgh said:
    Although please schedule activities by time (full-day) and don’t mention alcohol so that my flight and hotel is tax deductible @ProHosting24

    In germany we also tax deduct alcohol 💅🍹

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • Oh, they all show sold out!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @emgh said:
    Although please schedule activities by time (full-day) and don’t mention alcohol so that my flight and hotel is tax deductible @ProHosting24

    @emgh said:
    Although please schedule activities by time (full-day) and don’t mention alcohol so that my flight and hotel is tax deductible @ProHosting24

    In germany we also tax deduct alcohol 💅🍹

    Of course you do

  • @ProHosting24 said:

    @loay said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @Falzo said: @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    This! :)
    No one has seriously complained about your service. There may be some concerns about certain aspects from this and that client, which si normal, but most people here share just their observations, and the overall reception of your service is positive.

    People here also understand that you offer an unmanaged service. Infrastructure, etc., is your responsibility, but anything beyond that ... you are not obliged to offer support with clients' applications, and any extra assistance you provide is an act of kindness that shouldn’t be taken for granted or take too much of your time and energy.

    Yes i believe we just didn‘t clarify that strong enough in the first place.

    I need to add that i didn‘t feel attacked, but rather thought of it being incomprehensible that we need to lower the bars that much. But on the other hand we sold almost a thousand VMs, maybe its just a perception kind of thing.

    Yes, I was just sharing my observations. Sorry if my comments came across as criticism. This is a very generous offer, and your work on improving the performance is amazing.

    No, you are not part of the issue. ^^

    If I really had to choose from the users posted here, I would say that Hyperblast has annoyed me a little. But i understand his obsession, i also have my quirks with some very specific metrics on some applications that i am running.

    The most recent example of a LET user taking the cake was an individual that generated 83 TB of traffic in 7 days stating that we didn't specify that we don't offer unlimited bandwith on LET.
    Now he want his payments refunded. He will get his payment refunded and he will also never again be able to order anything from us. 😂

    How do you even handle that, you can't make this up haha

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @loay said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @Falzo said: @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    This! :)
    No one has seriously complained about your service. There may be some concerns about certain aspects from this and that client, which si normal, but most people here share just their observations, and the overall reception of your service is positive.

    People here also understand that you offer an unmanaged service. Infrastructure, etc., is your responsibility, but anything beyond that ... you are not obliged to offer support with clients' applications, and any extra assistance you provide is an act of kindness that shouldn’t be taken for granted or take too much of your time and energy.

    Yes i believe we just didn‘t clarify that strong enough in the first place.

    I need to add that i didn‘t feel attacked, but rather thought of it being incomprehensible that we need to lower the bars that much. But on the other hand we sold almost a thousand VMs, maybe its just a perception kind of thing.

    Yes, I was just sharing my observations. Sorry if my comments came across as criticism. This is a very generous offer, and your work on improving the performance is amazing.

    No, you are not part of the issue. ^^

    If I really had to choose from the users posted here, I would say that Hyperblast has annoyed me a little. But i understand his obsession, i also have my quirks with some very specific metrics on some applications that i am running.

    The most recent example of a LET user taking the cake was an individual that generated 83 TB of traffic in 7 days stating that we didn't specify that we don't offer unlimited bandwith on LET.
    Now he want his payments refunded. He will get his payment refunded and he will also never again be able to order anything from us. 😂

    How do you even handle that, you can't make this up haha

    so to call me 83 tb criminals in the same context is quite impertinent.

    otherwise the old proverb applies: much enemy much honor!

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @ProHosting24 why not just set a limit that you’re happy with? I rarely see people complain about Hetzner’s 20TB for example

    Then just limit speed after that

    Thanked by 1ProHosting24
  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:
    @ProHosting24 why not just set a limit that you’re happy with? I rarely see people complain about Hetzner’s 20TB for example

    Then just limit speed after that

    Because in some cases we are okay with users exceeding those fair-use "limits".
    Especially when customers experience high demands because of events or stuff they have to migrate.

    This is only getting an issue when posting on LET.
    If you think that this user base is incompatible to that because of to many black sheeps we will add this to the list of considerations for our next post as well.

  • @ProHosting24 said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    frankfurt is much closer then leopoldshöhe! ;)

    Haha thats great, i‘d be happy to invite you if you‘re down for that.

    I don't know if you can take it, because I scared you off. :)

  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    i can join if you like, i also come roughly from the region. :)

    I’m not even kidding if we’re doing DC tour with the infra explained followed by beers I’ll take a flight

    If you are real about that we can discuss that, but i am not sure if we have enough of an tech stack to show case with a full rack of hypervisors and only some switching gear.

    I could get in touch with maincubes to find out if they are still offering tours.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited September 2024

    @ProHosting24 said: If you think that this user base is incompatible to that because of to many black sheeps we will add this to the list of considerations for our next post as well.

    I mean... abuse is fairly common, yes.

    You can try not to, but if it comes an issue, I'd add some hard limits. People are usually fine with that as long as it's not getting suspended once limits have been met (but instead bandwidth gets limited in terms of speed)

    You can always continue with the unmetered fair-use on non-promo plans :)

    Edit: Some even prefer it to not have to think about what's okay.

  • @emgh said:

    @ProHosting24 said: If you think that this user base is incompatible to that because of to many black sheeps we will add this to the list of considerations for our next post as well.

    I mean... abuse is fairly common, yes.

    You can try not to, but if it comes an issue, I'd add some hard limits. People are usually fine with that as long as it's not getting suspended once limits have been met (but instead bandwidth gets limited in terms of speed)

    You can always continue with the unmetered fair-use on non-promo plans :)

    Edit: Some even prefer it to not have to think about what's okay.

    limit the traffik and secure a gb6-score from 1700 ;)

  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @hyperblast said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @hyperblast said:

    @ProHosting24 said:

    @Falzo said:
    @ProHosting24 don't take it too much to your heart, this is just what LET is about.
    seems you had no proper warning, when entering here. Welcome anyway!

    on a personal note: if you want to grab a beer some time and rant a bit about lowend users, I live in the area :D

    I am happy to invite you.

    But i moved to frankfurt 2 years ago, you could come over anyway and we can get some drinks on my tap. We as well may take a look at our hosts colocated in the maincubes datacenter beforehand, if you are interested enough in that.

    Thanks for welcoming me, very appreciated :)

    frankfurt is much closer then leopoldshöhe! ;)

    Haha thats great, i‘d be happy to invite you if you‘re down for that.

    I don't know if you can take it, because I scared you off. :)

    I am to young to be resentful over such things.
    Or to old, however you're looking at it. :D

    But i didn't want to compare you to weird users taking it for granted to generate 82 TB of traffic on such a offering under a fair-use policy.

    Please reread:

    @ProHosting24 said: If I really had to choose from the users posted here, I would say that Hyperblast has annoyed me a little. But i understand his obsession, i also have my quirks with some very specific metrics on some applications that i am running.

    Thanked by 1Frameworks
  • Hello, I need another 16 GB VPS, is the website out of stock?

  • @Alexandre said:
    Hello, I need another 16 GB VPS, is the website out of stock?

    Sale is over, you can still order regular plans here: https://prohosting24.de/vpsplans

  • ProHosting24ProHosting24 Member, Patron Provider

    @emgh said:

    @ProHosting24 said: If you think that this user base is incompatible to that because of to many black sheeps we will add this to the list of considerations for our next post as well.

    I mean... abuse is fairly common, yes.

    You can try not to, but if it comes an issue, I'd add some hard limits. People are usually fine with that as long as it's not getting suspended once limits have been met (but instead bandwidth gets limited in terms of speed)

    You can always continue with the unmetered fair-use on non-promo plans :)

    Edit: Some even prefer it to not have to think about what's okay.

    This only complicates matters again, and even then we probably still won't introduce an automatic limitation to, say, 10 Mbit/s. But I think specifying a hard limit could minimise unwanted encounters.

    Thanked by 1emgh
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