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DelimiterVPS 12 Hour Atom Review

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  • AutoSnipeAutoSnipe Member
    edited November 2013

    @Spirit @MarkTurner
    Don't worry my online.net server can speedtest to FreeSAS it's own company and get 50-70ms
    Can always do some more download tests cough benchmy.net cough

  • @MarkTurner said:
    Do the physics - (check my figures - its late here)

    Speed of light = 299,792,458 metres/second = 299,792.458 metres/millisecond

    Distance (as crow flies) from Seattle to Frankfurt = 5,080 miles = 8175.468km

    8175.468 x 1000 = 8,175,468m

    8175468/299792 = 27ms assuming that its as the crow flies and 100% optical all the way.

    We all know that its not as the crow flies + we know there is a significant time when going optical -> electrical -> switching/routing -> electrical -> optical

    At 31ms that is literally the speed of light which is impossible on that distance.

    You know what's faster than light... A wormhole.

    I see no flaws with this theory :)

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep
    edited November 2013

    can you ping speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com and tell us resolved ip

    i think that they are using redirect to closest geo located node of their network

  •  mtr --report speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com   
    HOST: kvmbox                      Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev   
      1. 82.211.x.x                    0.0%    10    0.5   0.4   0.3   0.8   0.2   
      2. fra3.xe-0-0-0.accelerated.de  0.0%    10    0.4   2.5   0.4  20.7   6.4   
      3. bbr01.xn01.fra01.networklaye  0.0%    10    0.5   0.8   0.5   1.6   0.4  
      4. ae1.bbr01.tg01.lon01.network  0.0%    10   13.8  14.0  13.6  14.9   0.5   
      5. ae1.bbr02.tl01.nyc01.network  0.0%    10   81.3  81.5  81.2  83.4   0.7   
      6. ae1.bbr01.eq01.chi01.network 50.0%    10  103.0 102.9 102.9 103.0   0.0   
      7. ae7.bbr02.eq01.chi01.network  0.0%    10  103.8 103.9 103.6 104.7   0.3   
      8. ae1.bbr02.cs01.den01.network  0.0%    10  129.0 129.2 129.0 130.5   0.5   
      9. ae7.bbr01.cs01.den01.network  0.0%    10  129.1 129.2 128.9 130.1   0.3  
     10. ae0.bbr01.wb01.sea02.network  0.0%    10  153.8 154.6 153.7 162.4   2.7  
     11. ae0.dar02.sr01.sea01.network  0.0%    10  157.8 157.8 157.7 157.8   0.0  
     12. po2.fcr01.sr01.sea01.network 10.0%    10  155.2 168.8 155.2 271.7  38.6  
     13. speedtest.sea01.softlayer.co 10.0%    10  153.9 153.9 153.9 154.0   0.0  
    --- speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com ping statistics ---
    4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3003ms
    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 153.848/154.298/155.161/0.602 ms
    

    Like I said - around 150ms :P

  • skybucks100skybucks100 Member
    edited November 2013

    @drserver said:
    can you ping speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com and tell us resolved ip

    i think that they are using redirect to closest geo located node of their network

    Here you go:

    [root@anulap ~]# ping speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com

    PING speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250) 56(84) bytes of data.

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50

    time=155 ms

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=155 ms

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=155 ms

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=155 ms

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=155 ms

    64 bytes from speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (67.228.112.250): icmp_seq=6 ttl=50 time=155 ms

    ^C

    --- speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com ping statistics ---

    6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 7853ms

    rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 155.016/155.054/155.108/0.229 ms

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep

    that is server 4031

    <server url="http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/speedtest/speedtest/upload.php" lat="47.6097" lon="-122.3331" name="Seattle, WA" country="United States" cc="US" sponsor="SoftLayer Technologies, Inc." id="4031" host="speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com:8080"/>

    their php backend redirects you to colosest geolocated ip

    there is no wormhole

  • Its either looking up a local node, or someone is tweaking the traffic flow.

  • @drserver said:
    that is server 4031

    <server url="http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/speedtest/speedtest/upload.php" lat="47.6097" lon="-122.3331" name="Seattle, WA" country="United States" cc="US" sponsor="SoftLayer Technologies, Inc." id="4031" host="speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com:8080"/>

    their php backend redirects you to colosest geolocated ip

    there is no wormhole

    Sure.... For now atleast..

  • If you ping from your home computer to your VPS, it will be 130-200ms. Certain ISPs it will be more.

    But 51ms to Atlanta is about right given your ISP. I am getting from Westin to Atlanta 40-43ms which is about right.

    Back to the original point though - that server should without any question respond more fluidly than your server in Germany. If for no other reason you are stripping 100ms+ off the transit time.

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep

    Lowest lenght cable Europe - USA

    Submarine Cable List Hibernia Express Email link RFS: 2014 Cable Length: 4,600 km Owners: Hibernia Networks URL: http://www.hibernianetworks.com

    • EU Datacenter to coast + coast to Seattle Datacenter

    Now do light speed math again

    Thanked by 1lukesUbuntu
  • I think something is wrong with speedtest script or their Seattle servers? Because I get faster-than-light speed testing from France, Italy, UK, and Netherlands.
    Tested all server 1423, 1074, 4217, and 2965, similar output.

    FR: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136100205.png
    IT: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136102574.png
    UK: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136102816.png
    NL: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136108378.png

  • @DalComp said:
    I think something is wrong with speedtest script or their Seattle servers? Because I get faster-than-light speed testing from France, Italy, UK, and Netherlands.
    Tested all server 1423, 1074, 4217, and 2965, similar output.

    FR: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136100205.png
    IT: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136102574.png
    UK: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136102816.png
    NL: http://www.speedtest.net/result/3136108378.png

    2 reasons.. 1. Geo Location 2. Worm Hole

    Obviously #2 :)

  • It doesn't really matter because I have taken Seattle as one point and Frankfurt as another and said the pipe runs directly between them in the distance calculation. Its still going to be less than all the snaking and regenning; never mind routing/switching and other processes.

  • @Dalcomp who are you testing against? Is it consistently one operator?

    Why not retry using the good old http download on the same path. It may not be overly scientific but it will be more indicative

  • DalCompDalComp Member
    edited December 2013

    @MarkTurner said:
    Dalcomp who are you testing against? Is it consistently one operator?

    Why not retry using the good old http download on the same path. It may not be overly scientific but it will be more indicative

    As I said, something must be wrong with speedtest script. I tested 4 Seattle servers on their server list, all showing similar output as above. But normal ping test shows 140-200ms.

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2013

    IP swap to geolocated on ping in php 100%

  • c0yc0y Member
    edited December 2013

    Mainly the fiber optic amplifiers add a lot of latency, because their processors are from as fast (bus speed, not frequency) as light. Fiber optics run for like max 50km before they need to be amplified.

    Regarding the worm hole: it's called a hole and not a tunnel for a reason...

    It is an unkown "hole" that probably shoots stuff through space and time faster than we (and computers, telescopes etc) can see, it's most likely not some magic tunnel into "another dimension"

  • drserverdrserver Member, Host Rep

    Warp 10 fiber optics... no other explanation except php ping tune

  • I smell Alien talk !

  • @c0y said:
    Regarding the worm hole: it's called a hole and not a tunnel for a reason...

    It is an unkown "hole" that probably shoots stuff through space and time faster than we (and computers, telescopes etc) can see, it's most likely not some magic tunnel into "another dimension"

    Well not with that attitude :)

  • skybucks100skybucks100 Member
    edited December 2013

    Here's a 100mb test from Dallas, TX. DC: Incero Speed: 100mbps Host: FlipHost URL: http://gifs.whattherage.com/100.out

    Atom:

    root@server3:~# wget http://gifs.whattherage.com/100.out --2013-11-30 23:52:28--

    http://gifs.whattherage.com/100.out Resolving gifs.whattherage.com

    (gifs.whattherage.com)... 23.92.65.12 Connecting to gifs.whattherage.com

    (gifs.whattherage.com)|23.92.65.12|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting

    response... 200 OK Length: 100000000 (95M) [text/plain] Saving to: `100.out'

    100%[============================>] 100,000,000 11.3M/s in 8.8s

    2013-11-30 23:52:37 (10.8 MB/s) - `100.out' saved [100000000/100000000]

    Germany:

    [root@anulap ~]# wget http://gifs.whattherage.com/100.out --2013-11-30 19:29:52--

    http://gifs.whattherage.com/100.out Resolving gifs.whattherage.com... 23.92.65.12

    Connecting to gifs.whattherage.com|23.92.65.12|:80... connected. HTTP request sent,

    awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 100000000 (95M) [text/plain] Saving to: `100.out'

    100%[============================>] 100,000,000 4.35M/s in 30s

    2013-11-30 19:30:23 (3.14 MB/s) - `100.out' saved [100000000/100000000]

  • Can I ask you guys one simple question - What is the final verdict on DelimiterVPS - is it a good deal or bad?

  • @darknessends said:
    Can I ask you guys one simple question - What is the final verdict on DelimiterVPS - is it a good deal or bad?

    It really depends on what you need, if you need something small in the US and those speeds don't bother you. It's fine. If you need something else, you might want to look else where.

  • @darknessends Of course its a good deal :)

    That VPS in Dallas has 100Mbps connection (or nearly 100Mbps) - even with a server with 10GE connection we can't get any more out of it.

    So the Atom is definitely able to saturate the connection.

  • @skybucks100 just gave me access to his VPS:

    wget -O /dev/null http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    --2013-12-01 00:56:50-- http://cachefly.cachefly.net/100mb.test
    Resolving cachefly.cachefly.net (cachefly.cachefly.net)... 205.234.175.175
    Connecting to cachefly.cachefly.net (cachefly.cachefly.net)|205.234.175.175|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 104857600 (100M) [application/octet-stream]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[==================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================>] 104,857,600 86.5M/s in 1.2s

    2013-12-01 00:56:51 (86.5 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [104857600/104857600]

    86.5MB/s = 692Mbps

    traceroute to cachefly.cachefly.net (205.234.175.175), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
    1 199.233.245.254 (199.233.245.254) 0.519 ms 0.556 ms 0.600 ms
    2 ge-11-2-9.mpr4.atl6.us.above.net (64.125.71.105) 0.292 ms 0.291 ms 0.268 ms
    3 99.xe-0-1-0.cr1.atl1.us.nlayer.net (198.32.132.68) 1.837 ms 1.850 ms 1.782 ms
    4 vip1.G-anycast1.cachefly.net (205.234.175.175) 0.280 ms 0.292 ms 0.260 ms

    I took Cachefly as they are off-net and I know they have 10GE ports on their servers.

  • @MarkTurner said:
    skybucks100 just gave me access to his VPS:

    Correction, dedicated. Not VPS :P

  • Sorry brain is overtired

  • @MarkTurner said:

    But here's my issue,

    root@server3:~# wget http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip

    --2013-12-01 01:03:53-- http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test100.zip

    Resolving speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com)... 67.228.112.250

    Connecting to speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com (speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com)|67.228.112.250|:80... connected.

    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK

    Length: 104874307 (100M) [application/zip]

    Saving to: `test100.zip'

    100%[============================>] 104,874,307 4.78M/s = **38.24Mbps ** (my math may be wrong, I got an F in math for reasons) in 30s

    2013-12-01 01:04:23 (3.39 MB/s) - `test100.zip' saved [104874307/104874307]

    That's from a Softlayer Seattle 100mb file test.

  • You should use the final figure ie 3.39MB which is 27.12Mbps

    Are you saying you want to move files between your home and this device or from another server.

    Rather than benchmarking against Softlayer's - how can I put this politely - 'optimised' tester - why not stick a 100MB file on your server and test download/upload between your home and the server; then another server and your home for comparison.

    From within the Westin building (Seattle) to that URL, I am not even getting 30Mbps and I am 4ms away from that IP.

    What do you get from home when download the same URL from Softlayer?

  • Tried with their 500MB file:

    wget -O /dev/null 'http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip'
    --2013-11-30 20:55:46-- http://speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
    Resolving speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com... 67.228.112.250
    Connecting to speedtest.sea01.softlayer.com|67.228.112.250|:80... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: 524288000 (500M) [application/zip]
    Saving to: `/dev/null'

    100%[==================================================================================================================================================================================================================================================>] 524,288,000 37.8M/s in 14s

    2013-11-30 20:56:01 (34.8 MB/s) - `/dev/null' saved [524288000/524288000]

    278.4Mbps from Atlanta to Seattle

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