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New: Joshua Moon Didn’t Realize the LLC He Was Operating Kiwi Farms Through Was Dissolved

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  • kaitkait Member

    @jar said: I hope not, otherwise I've got bigger problems than allergies.

    Poor you.

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  • @neverain said:

    @siemens said:

    Remind me, was the New Zealand shooting streamed on some chan or kiwifarms? Is the platform that it was being streamed on still happily online with no issues?

    my brother, twitch did not keep the video up and share it to its viewers and praise it

    200 people were watching it live on Facebook (a company with hundreds of billions valuation) and the stream was left on for 36 minutes and 4000 people watched it after the stream ended.

    Archiving the video brings more attention to it, doesn't glorify it.

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  • @jar said:
    So much comes down to:

    Everyone has been brainwashed to believe that people who by default agree with the ideology opposite of theirs is by default accepting of the most extreme opinions of other people who agree with the same ideology. But also believing that people who agree with their ideology are not by default accepting of the most extreme individuals among believers of that ideology.

    So it's like: by default those people are evil because there are evil among them, but I am not by default evil despite also having evil among my group.

    And no one will ever change, because the brainwashing has given purpose to their otherwise boring lives and they're not going back.

    i used to have this centrist take, then i grew up and started to stand firmly with my beliefs.

    i have to say, upstreams shouldn't have interfered in this, its not their place to have an opinion, but cloudflare dropping them is fair game, its a private business and there primary goal is profits, but if anyone kept up with the whole saga, it was clear that cf didnt drop kf because of the dropkf movement, but instead they just visited the site and saw it was not just some pals enjoying freedom of speech

    similar to some other nazi site i forgot the name of, they protected it first but then the admins or community started posting that cf higher ups secretly supported their beliefs, at which point they removed them

    Just like you have freedom of speech, cloudflare has their freedom to choose their customers, think of cloudflare as a web dev and kf as a gay couple

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  • @kait said: good constructed argument that adds a ton of value

    no you dont bud

  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @neverain said: but cloudflare dropping them is fair game, its a private business and there primary goal is profits, but if anyone kept up with the whole saga, it was clear that cf didnt drop kf because of the dropkf movement, but instead they just visited the site and saw it was not just some pals enjoying freedom of speech

    Dropping Kiwifarms costed them around ~40m. Corporate clients asked why they dropped it on meetings with Cloudflare execs and made them visibly scared.
    They even noted it on SEC fillings.

    If they were motivated by profits, they fucked up. This is a start to DMCA Mafia and other freaks taking Cloudflare to court for them to take some website down. Previously Cloudflare could say they don't take anything down, period. Now they shown how big of a pussies they are and it will be used as a bullet point in court cases to come.
    They absolutely fucked up, and they know it.

  • kaitkait Member

    @neckbreaker said: If they were motivated by profits, they fucked up.

    Sounds like tech companies in general: twitter, reddit, tumblr, twitch, youtube. All motivated by profits and choose the super wrong thing to push.

  • @neverain said:

    i used to have this centrist take, then i grew up and started to stand firmly with my beliefs.

    i have to say, upstreams shouldn't have interfered in this, its not their place to have an opinion, but cloudflare dropping them is fair game, its a private business and there primary goal is profits, but if anyone kept up with the whole saga, it was clear that cf didnt drop kf because of the dropkf movement, but instead they just visited the site and saw it was not just some pals enjoying freedom of speech

    similar to some other nazi site i forgot the name of, they protected it first but then the admins or community started posting that cf higher ups secretly supported their beliefs, at which point they removed them

    Just like you have freedom of speech, cloudflare has their freedom to choose their customers, think of cloudflare as a web dev and kf as a gay couple

    I guess they never visited the terrorist and CP websites they protect and make excuses about like "we are not hosting it". Or maybe they did, but they are okay with such content.

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  • @SirFoxy said: Let's say you host a forum about manufacturing bombs (a customer of yours owns the forum, not you) and a user on that forum takes one of those bombs and blows up a business killing a bunch of people.

    Holy fucking shit. You're trying so goddamn hard to make your argument that you're just resorting to spewing random bullshit, hoping it makes sense.

    @neckbreaker said: The man himself.

    Thanked by 2kait neckbreaker
  • @siemens said: visited the terrorist

    Look where most of them are hosted ;)
    https://ghostsecuritygroup.com/extremist-links/

  • @sillycat said:

    @SirFoxy said: Let's say you host a forum about manufacturing bombs (a customer of yours owns the forum, not you) and a user on that forum takes one of those bombs and blows up a business killing a bunch of people.

    Holy fucking shit. You're trying so goddamn hard to make your argument that you're just resorting to spewing random bullshit, hoping it makes sense.

    @neckbreaker said: The man himself.

    Lol, have you used Tor? I’m not sure how my example is far fetched.

    Plus, it was intentionally dramatic to put emphasis on how stupid it would be to not have regulation on how we use our words.

    Freedom of speech is not unlimited. Limits exist for the good of society.

  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: Freedom of speech is not unlimited. Limits exist for the good of society.

    WHAT ARE THE LIMITS.
    WHAT ARE THE LIMITS.

  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy said: Plus, it was intentionally dramatic to put emphasis on how stupid it would be to not have regulation on how we use our words.

    Yeah but it was useless because its illegal to share that stuff and KF is only doing legal stuff.

  • kaitkait Member
    edited July 2023

    the limit is probably here for this forum :)

  • sillycatsillycat Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: Lol, have you used Tor? I’m not sure how my example is far fetched.

    In my opinion, your example is quite far-fetched. While the other two individuals were discussing the topic of freedom of speech, you abruptly shifted the conversation to bomb-making forums, which are unquestionably illegal. These two subjects cannot be compared in any way.

    @neckbreaker said: WHAT ARE THE LIMITS.

    Might want to chill down a bit. This isn't Telegram or the Kiwifarms.

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  • @sillycat said: Might want to chill down a bit. This isn't Telegram or the Kiwifarms.

    Its fine, my stepdad is black and he said its fine.

  • @siemens said:

    @neverain said:

    i used to have this centrist take, then i grew up and started to stand firmly with my beliefs.

    i have to say, upstreams shouldn't have interfered in this, its not their place to have an opinion, but cloudflare dropping them is fair game, its a private business and there primary goal is profits, but if anyone kept up with the whole saga, it was clear that cf didnt drop kf because of the dropkf movement, but instead they just visited the site and saw it was not just some pals enjoying freedom of speech

    similar to some other nazi site i forgot the name of, they protected it first but then the admins or community started posting that cf higher ups secretly supported their beliefs, at which point they removed them

    Just like you have freedom of speech, cloudflare has their freedom to choose their customers, think of cloudflare as a web dev and kf as a gay couple

    I guess they never visited the terrorist and CP websites they protect and make excuses about like "we are not hosting it". Or maybe they did, but they are okay with such content.

    more straw lmao, i should stop tech and start a cattle farm

    yeah the takedowns from cf are really slow, i dont think that was ever in question. how is this relevant here?

  • EnvidaEnvida Member
    edited July 2023

    @neverain said:
    https://blog.cloudflare.com/kiwifarms-blocked/

    This is not proof.
    You are insanely dumb.

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:
    I vote for a closure of this discussion, like crunchbitch said, lets keep LET and LEB a bit cleaner from all the accusing without any proof.

    Aren't you both asking for censorship of an opposing viewpoint? While saying "free speech is good."

    opposing viewpoint has to be VALID, GENUINE, FACTUAL.
    All we are saying is that you are a fucking LIAR.

    Northern Ireland resident here. The note in the 2nd picture needs a bit of context because unless you know Northern Ireland it likely doesn't make much sense.

    When there are drug dealers, nonces etc in certain communities the paramilitarys,such as the Ulster Voluneer Force in those areas tend to put up graffiti all over the place alon the lines of "xxxxx leave the community within 7 days or else". They definitly follow through on that. A recent example is in the picture below. Relavtives of the 2 have had pipe bombs through windows because Price is (or was, not sure now) still in the country.

    As someone from Ulster, that note reads to me as a parody of this designed to intimidate and threaten someone under the guise of a joke. If you know what it is and the context it can't really be seen as anything other than a threat potentially linked to a terrorist orgainisation. Given the frigile tollerance communities have of each other here and the violent past, if that was aimed at me, I'd certainly see it as a direct threat, not an 'expression of free speech' To follow it up with neo-nazi rhetoric is even more apalling. It was probably ment as some sick joke, but it certainly isn't one to anyone who wasn't part of the small group who hounded the lady it was aimed at.

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  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator
    edited July 2023

    @neckbreaker said: Can someone solve this mystery? @Arkas
    I see his name being thrown a lot, what did he do to get banned?

    He broke the LET rules too many times. Too many warnings....etc...

  • kaitkait Member

    @Arkas said:

    @neckbreaker said: Can someone solve this mystery? @Arkas
    I see his name being thrown a lot, what did he do to get banned?

    He broke the LET rules too many times. Too many warnings....etc...

    While you're here can you confirm that I am not treesmokah. (not same IP, email, whatever you guys track) (also don't post my email because it has my name in it :)) keep it save while I am transfering another domain to use here :)

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @kait said: While you're here can you confirm that I am not treesmokah.

    To the best of my knowledge you aren't, but I don't know everything :wink:

  • kaitkait Member

    @Arkas said: but I don't know everything

    True, even you could be treesmokah, but treesmokah is not dumb enough to use his full name in the email address.

  • ArkasArkas Member, Retired Moderator

    @kait said: True, even you could be treesmokah

    I've been known to smoke on/in trees, and even sometimes smoke trees. :lol:

    Thanked by 1SirFoxy
  • @Arkas said:

    @kait said: True, even you could be treesmokah

    I've been known to smoke on/in trees, and even sometimes smoke trees. :lol:

    I can find middle ground with @treesmokah there 😂😂

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • kaitkait Member

    @Arkas said: I've been known to smoke on/in trees, and even sometimes smoke trees.

    I haven't touched a tree in so long, really need to take some time off and go swimming and sauna shit.

    Thanked by 1Arkas
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited July 2023

    BRUH CAN WE HAVE A SCRIPT AUTO REMOVE ANY POST CONTAINING KIWI

    EVEN IMAGES CONTAINING IT

    IVE GONE FROM THIS IS INTERESTING TO IM MAD TO NOW WHERE IM JUST VERY VERY TIRED OF IT

    IF YOU READ THIS FAR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE IN THIS MATTER

    IF I COULD TRADE KIWI NOT MENTIONED HERE EVER AGAIN FOR KIWI STAYING UP UNTIL MR MOON DIES OF NATURAL CAUSES I'D TAKE IT IN A HEARTBEAT

    Thanked by 1ahnlak
  • MannDudeMannDude Patron Provider, Veteran
    edited July 2023

    @emgh said:
    BRUH CAN WE HAVE A SCRIPT AUTO REMOVE ANY POST CONTAINING KIWI

    EVEN IMAGES CONTAINING IT

    IVE GONE FROM THIS IS INTERESTING TO IM MAD TO NOW WHERE IM JUST VERY VERY TIRED OF IT

    IF YOU READ THIS FAR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE IN THIS MATTER

    IF I COULD TRADE KIWI NOT MENTIONED HERE EVER AGAIN FOR KIWI STAYING UP UNTIL MR MOON DIES OF NATURAL CAUSES I'D TAKE IT IN A HEARTBEAT

    Modify the greasemonkey script someone made to remove Racknerd threads.

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Edit: This: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3352010#Comment_3352010

    Thanked by 1emgh
  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @MannDude said:

    @emgh said:
    BRUH CAN WE HAVE A SCRIPT AUTO REMOVE ANY POST CONTAINING KIWI

    EVEN IMAGES CONTAINING IT

    IVE GONE FROM THIS IS INTERESTING TO IM MAD TO NOW WHERE IM JUST VERY VERY TIRED OF IT

    IF YOU READ THIS FAR THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE IN THIS MATTER

    IF I COULD TRADE KIWI NOT MENTIONED HERE EVER AGAIN FOR KIWI STAYING UP UNTIL MR MOON DIES OF NATURAL CAUSES I'D TAKE IT IN A HEARTBEAT

    Modify the greasemonkey script someone made to remove Racknerd threads.

    Out of sight, out of mind.

    Edit: This: https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/3352010#Comment_3352010

    Thank you so much

  • My bad guys I'm actually @treesmokah.

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  • Im a @treesmokah erryday. frfr

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  • Maybe we were all @treesmokah all along.

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