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OVH Reseller apocalypse is coming. Are you affected?
TL:DR, IPs will be soon billed separately.
Will be interesting to see how many providers will have to raise prices or directly cannot afford to renew.
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As our dearest deank always says - the end is nigh.
Or in this case, the end is $/€.
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I have no idea what the last two paragraphs is about.
Affected partially.
does this affect your primary IP as well? which would raise the price of kimsufi by like 1,5euro
Unlikely:
Called it?
Francisco
So I can drop my VPS I have there only because it had 16 IPs accumulated over years with 'one time fee only'. Thanks OVH!
I have one of these EU LXC's with you and it uses OVH IP's as well
That wasn't hard. Everyone that knows anything about IPv4 (and OVH history) know it will end this way (again...)
However this time we have gradually price increase rather than all in one go.
Depends what they count as 'new'. Does 'new' mean ranges they buy from today onwards, or from 2020 onwards? 2021 onwards was when we started to see IP's go up 300%+.
Francisco
Only the spam part seems to affect those. If they determine you send "too much" E-Mail, you get an extra 0.99 EUR per IP monthly fee, including even main IPs for a server.
No immediate effect. you're safe for your billing period.
I mean yeah just that you said you only have IP's with them only in apnic but you also have IP's with them in EU
New from client-side point of view.
If you order additional IP after the cutout date (Sep 2022), it's new.
If you already have 118757815 IPs (before Sep 2022) - it's old and it will take 3 years to pay full price, but next January you are hit with invoice.
OVH farmed IPs, now gonna cashout, a little.
ah, I wrote wrong. I meant we have two own ranges from apnic, so we are not affected fully. Only European location is effected.
I think this was inevitable and OVH doing it in a very scaled approach is honestly a very reasonable thing to do.
They could spring 1.49/eur/month on people instantly if they wanted.
Guess I'll fill the rest of my slots on the SYS dedis and take advantage of grandfathered prices for a few more years.
Thanks, i'm extra smooth brained today.
Still, people running/that ran from hetzner are kinda fucked.
Francisco
Indeed. Got fucked over by OVH years ago when they moved from a single one-time Fee for IP's, then they started a regular fee then they made them 'free' again. Said this many times over the last couple of years that this is coming and here we are.
A reasonable way to introduce the fee but still.
Agree I like the way they are doing this vs Hetzner.
The only issue I have though is the excuse they are using of freeing up IP space. Once they introduce BYOIP and start charging even 0.49e per IP I am sure they will have lots of free IPs. Anything more than that price is for profit nothing else.
But hopefully OVH will change their mind once they start losing their only real advantage over Hetzner.
They're going to charge 0.50EUR/m even for BYOIP?
Francisco
No I meant once they have that feature enabled plus start charging 0.49eu I am sure a lot of IPs will free up (mainly from the charge).
There is a fee I have heard it's around $50 per subnet min /24 but someone else confirm.
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If you send a lot of e-mails, yes.
The question wasn't whether they would. It was when they would.
Correct, this will raise prices of the bottom of the barrel resellers / VPS / game / hosting providers and is only good for the industry as a whole.
And hopefully good for IPv6 adoption too. Imagine the amount of people that have (and depend on) a ton of one-time fee IPv4 addresses. Now they are forced to move to IPv6 or shell out $$$
You can't just "move to ipv6"....
Francisco
IPv6 adoption is being limited by local ISPs.
Doesn't make my point any less true We're a long way from being able to drop V4 connectivity.
Francisco
If I recall correctly as an end user you can just drop IPV4 , stay with IPV6 as long as you proxy through something like Cloudflare. You will still have IPV4 connectivity.
haven't tested it. At least the other way around works.
The number of people affected decreases all the time. What few use cases can't move to IPv6 in this day and age of DNS? People will manage their IP's better now that there's a meaningful cost. The rest will use Cloudflare or similar to have inbound connectivity as needed.
In terms of residential broadband, modems get replaced every 3-5 years and it looks like they're enabling IPv6 on the replacement these days.