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  • @elliotc said:

    Transferred: 1.647G / 238.847 GBytes, 1%, 9.399 MBytes/s, ETA 7h10m42s

    It is doing what it should do as a storage box. However, I found a serious problem not related to you that it suppose to be 4XX GB... I need to check whats happening to my backup.

    Oh no, hope you get your backup sorted! Never a good feeling haha

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2022

    @RecD said:
    No offense, are you overweight?
    There is no need to answer, but keeping your BMI in the reference range and following your doctor's advice like sporting low-intensity routinely will help improve your heart function.

    I've been blessed with an extremely high metabolism I suppose. I can eat like a garbage truck and still maintain my weight and lose weight rapidly if I don't. I actually went from size 32 to all my pants flying off without a belt in a period of a month or two by lowering my caloric intake to under 3000 while building servers and working long hours.

    Anyway, I stay around 20 BMI.

    (edit) But yes working out helps, that just went out the door with COVID. I was a lot leaner then, with similar or even higher weight from having more muscles. There was a time long ago when I could even pick up 200 pound storage servers.

  • JabJabJabJab Member
    edited June 2022

    Woah, killing all other IP addresses (especially for those BF one and going -10%) will make people angry.

    I think I snatched 5 IP, 2 vCores, 2GB RAM, 5GB disk and... 100 GB bandwidth for like 12$ a year and it served me well for my Discord text bot and those IP-limits :). Why you sold it for that much - no idea, but VirtBot was pretty fucking nice for my use case :D
    I understand that in current market this is (always was!) expensive AF, but personally I wouldn't drop that for 10% (Okey, I would, just being nice because I don't need that anymore).

    I guess you want to leave CC totally so idk, probably give people an option for "Drop IPs - move to Ryzen; Don't drop IPs - we discontinue that product, refunding rest of contract".

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @JabJab said: I guess you want to leave CC totally so idk, probably give people an option for "Drop IPs - move to Ryzen; Don't drop IPs - we discontinue that product, refunding rest of contract".

    Well yeah, I personally feel like the fact that we're not going to potentially do it AND force people to keep it should by default be the fair way to do it.

    I think we've come pretty far because I still remember having a discussion some time ago where I said we may allow specials to move to Ryzen but without IPv4 or price increase, or having to remain on E5 as a possibility and we're already moving pretty much everyone so maybe we'll just keep it to avoid upsetting people. I'm very much still just evaluating.

    Thanked by 1skorous
  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    What if for every N additional IPs VirMach reduced, multiply the resources by N times? 🤔

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @FAT32 said:
    What if for every N additional IPs VirMach reduced, multiply the resources by N times? 🤔

    That'd be pretty funny to see for some 8GB / 8 IP special.

    Thanked by 2FAT32 FrankZ
  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider
    edited June 2022

    I was actually going to consider doing $3.60 a year reduction or something like that until someone asked for his 3 or so additional IP addresses on his $5.60 or something a year special and we'd end up having to pay him.

    Then we could do 10% per 1 IPv4 but there's people with 8 IP addresses so that's 70%* off.

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Now I feel guilty as I am the culprit of the 8GB 8IP thing...

  • @VirMach said:

    @JabJab said: I guess you want to leave CC totally so idk, probably give people an option for "Drop IPs - move to Ryzen; Don't drop IPs - we discontinue that product, refunding rest of contract".

    Well yeah, I personally feel like the fact that we're not going to potentially do it AND force people to keep it should by default be the fair way to do it.

    I think we've come pretty far because I still remember having a discussion some time ago where I said we may allow specials to move to Ryzen but without IPv4 or price increase, or having to remain on E5 as a possibility and we're already moving pretty much everyone so maybe we'll just keep it to avoid upsetting people. I'm very much still just evaluating.

    I want you to take a look at my ticket, because it has been 48 hours and my ip is no longer available,

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @boysshk said: I want you to take a look at my ticket, because it has been 48 hours and my ip is no longer available,

    I want you to stop quoting me, because I have nothing to do with VirMach. Clicking correct part of post can't be that hard, right?

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @JabJab said:

    @boysshk said: I want you to take a look at my ticket, because it has been 48 hours and my ip is no longer available,

    I want you to stop quoting me, because I have nothing to do with VirMach. Clicking correct part of post can't be that hard, right?

    I have looked at your ticket.

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @VirMach said: maybe we'll just keep it to avoid upsetting people. I'm very much still just evaluating.

    However even if you decide to 'keep it to avoid upsetting people' you still will need to merge all those services on one/few dedis and same subnet for cost saving - people will still get mad about IP addresses change, I guess :-)

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @VirMach said: I have looked at your ticket.

    But I have no tickets :(
    I mean I can open one if you want? 3.6$ for each IP address on 5 IP, 12$ service, k?

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @VirMach said:
    I was actually going to consider doing $3.60 a year reduction or something like that until someone asked for his 3 or so additional IP addresses on his $5.60 or something a year special and we'd end up having to pay him.

    Then we could do 10% per 1 IPv4 but there's people with 8 IP addresses so that's 70%* off.

    How about doing it the other way around and start billing for additional IPs with the next renewal?

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @brueggus said: How about doing it the other way around and start billing for additional IPs with the next renewal?

    How much you think they should charge for extra IP on those special deals worth 8-20$ per year that comes with 2-8 IPs? Like 6 times the yearly price? I would rather have things discontinued (in advance, like 3-6 months?) then wake up to "We have 8x your bill!".

  • msteenmsteen Member

    @brueggus said:

    @VirMach said:
    I was actually going to consider doing $3.60 a year reduction or something like that until someone asked for his 3 or so additional IP addresses on his $5.60 or something a year special and we'd end up having to pay him.

    Then we could do 10% per 1 IPv4 but there's people with 8 IP addresses so that's 70%* off.

    How about doing it the other way around and start billing for additional IPs with the next renewal?

    Not a good idea, it may upset some people.

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @brueggus said:

    @VirMach said:
    I was actually going to consider doing $3.60 a year reduction or something like that until someone asked for his 3 or so additional IP addresses on his $5.60 or something a year special and we'd end up having to pay him.

    Then we could do 10% per 1 IPv4 but there's people with 8 IP addresses so that's 70%* off.

    How about doing it the other way around and start billing for additional IPs with the next renewal?

    Well that wouldn't really solve the problem. It may just upset everyone, and cement the fact that we're doing price increases concerning others, AND it would still require all the coordination and support involved with adding the IP addresses back by default.

    @JabJab said:

    @VirMach said: I have looked at your ticket.

    But I have no tickets :(
    I mean I can open one if you want? 3.6$ for each IP address on 5 IP, 12$ service, k?

    I have replied to your ticket in the future.

    Thanked by 2FrankZ FrankZ
  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @JabJab said: then wake up to "We have 8x your bill!".

    Thank you for the reply, we've quadrupled your service recurring price!

  • msteenmsteen Member

    @msteen said: it may upset some people.
    @VirMach said: It may just upset everyone,

    Great minds think alike.

  • JabJabJabJab Member

    @VirMach said: I have replied to your ticket in the future.

    Hey, can you provide those Powerball lotto numbers too? I think I would be able to buy a lot of services from you then.

    Thanked by 1FrankZ
  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @JabJab said:

    @VirMach said: I have replied to your ticket in the future.

    Hey, can you provide those Powerball lotto numbers too? I think I would be able to buy a lot of services from you then.

    51 57 67 15 12 17

    I won't tell you which year it's for though but 100% guarantee it will be drawn sometime in the next few millennia.

  • @VirMach said:
    Honestly, I've been considering making the unpopular decision of removing multiple IP addresses for the move to Ryzen, and then offer people who are upset a pro-rated refund or potentially a reduction in pricing by 10% of the value of the plan. We probably have a lot of BF special offers where it only made sense to do the additional IP addresses because that specific node it was originally created on just had a lot of IP addresses left over and this doesn't really translate when it's migrated over. This also adds a lot of extra work on our end once we move thousands of these by the end of Ryzen migrations. But removing all additional IP addresses and automatically providing said discount and message could end up being a lot smoother, and I'm sure it would make the majority of people who don't plan on using the additional IP addresses happy (and it also automatically resolves all cases where they did want it by at least providing a pro-rated refund should someone want to discontinue their service as a result.)

    Of course by default we understand it isn't a nice thing to do and some people do actually require and use the additional IP address, so let me know what you guys think.

    Whether or not we move forward this way, some time in the future, maybe 5 or 10 years from now, if IPv4 price trends continue toward the insane, it will have to be something we would have to heavily consider if we're going to maintain our policy of no price increases. That, and any packages that originally came advertised with Windows licensing, the two main things out of our control.

    @AlwaysSkint, what do you think? In your case you'll get your additional IP back since it wouldn't affect you as you already completed the change but how would you feel if it ended up happening as described above?

    I cancelled the last of my multi-IP vps's when I picked up a dedi from you, but I used to be one of the users that actually used them, so I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. Personally, with the way IPv4 prices are, I would completely understand dropping additional IPs with the move to Ryzen, even without any discount or compensation. Of course, if I could keep IPs at no additional cost would be great, but deals don't last forever and I feel like the Ryzen migration is already a pretty big compensation.

    I'm still curious what the move away from CC will mean for my dedi though.

    @JabJab said:
    I guess you want to leave CC totally so idk, probably give people an option for "Drop IPs - move to Ryzen; Don't drop IPs - we discontinue that product, refunding rest of contract".

    I think this seems like a reasonable enough approach. It's not a huge gift to customers and it'll probably upset a few people, but so did Hetzner's IPv4 pricing changes, and sometimes you have to make those business decisions.

    Thanked by 2FrankZ skorous
  • msattmsatt Member, Host Rep

    @VirMach Don't forget people who used the migrate button and got allocated an ip but the migrate failed. We still need to migrate and don't need the extra ip - so assume remove newly assigned ip before disabling any migrate option.

  • VirMachVirMach Member, Patron Provider

    @msatt said:
    @VirMach Don't forget people who used the migrate button and got allocated an ip but the migrate failed. We still need to migrate and don't need the extra ip - so assume remove newly assigned ip before disabling any migrate option.

    Well the idea behind that would be that we don't want extreme cases where it fails and fails and customer ends up with like 6 IP addresses.

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited June 2022

    @VirMach said: .. and customer ends up with like 6 IP addresses.

    I'd keep schtum. :o

    How about a one-off double renewal price, to retain number of IPs? OVH manage to do a single payment. Just a thought.

  • How about IPv6 for JP Ryzen vps ? Received no IPv6 after migrate from San Jose to Japan.

    @VirMach

  • FrankZFrankZ Barred
    edited June 2022

    @Paradox0s said: How about IPv6 for JP Ryzen vps ? Received no IPv6 after migrate from San Jose to Japan.

    There is no IPv6 yet for anybody in Japan.

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FrankZ said:

    @Paradox0s said: How about IPv6 for JP Ryzen vps ? Received no IPv6 after migrate from San Jose to Japan.

    There is no IPv6 yet for anybody in Japan.

    Mine did come with IPv6 enabled - and it works like a charm <3

  • FrankZFrankZ Barred

    @brueggus said: Mine did come with IPv6 enabled - and it works like a charm <3

    WTF ???? Consider me officially jealous. :anguished:

    Thanked by 1lemoncube
  • @FrankZ said: WTF ???? Consider me officially jealous.

    Guess HE tunnelbroker

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