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  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    @brueggus said:
    Running a blacklist sounds like an easy way to make money... 🤔

    No, money are taken by subnet provider for each individual IP which is not unlisted by ourselves.
    We tried to do this with our ISP but didn't succeed.
    Best regards, Florin.

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FlorinMarian said:

    @brueggus said:
    Running a blacklist sounds like an easy way to make money... 🤔

    No, money are taken by subnet provider for each individual IP which is not unlisted by ourselves.

    Oh, wow... Fortunately you got your own subnet now.

  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    @brueggus said:

    @FlorinMarian said:

    @brueggus said:
    Running a blacklist sounds like an easy way to make money... 🤔

    No, money are taken by subnet provider for each individual IP which is not unlisted by ourselves.

    Oh, wow... Fortunately you got your own subnet now.

    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

  • brueggusbrueggus Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FlorinMarian said:

    @brueggus said:

    @FlorinMarian said:

    @brueggus said:
    Running a blacklist sounds like an easy way to make money... 🤔

    No, money are taken by subnet provider for each individual IP which is not unlisted by ourselves.

    Oh, wow... Fortunately you got your own subnet now.

    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

    I was hoping they would be more relaxed since it's your "own" /24 instead of a subset of one of theirs. :(

  • @FlorinMarian said:

    New unpleasant update:
    Because one beautiful guy used a budget server for Botnet & Email spamming, we have to pay 50 eur for blacklist removal :smile:
    Because of this wonderful guy, budget packages are now available only with yearly payment.
    Best regards, Florin.

    I'm just curious how other providers deal with scenarios like this.

  • HostSlickHostSlick 🚩 Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @jmaxwell said:
    @FlorinMarian said:

    New unpleasant update:
    Because one beautiful guy used a budget server for Botnet & Email spamming, we have to pay 50 eur for blacklist removal :smile:
    Because of this wonderful guy, budget packages are now available only with yearly payment.
    Best regards, Florin.

    I'm just curious how other providers deal with scenarios like this.

    Sounds like a shithole of a leasing provider.

    One once asked same in the contract 50€/ip blacklisted. Asked them to lock it at only 1000 EUR fee Because you never know. lol. But in the end I went with a other.

    I lease some of my own subnets to other providers too, abuse can always happen even if you are cautious. I just forward and ask them to remove the Spamhaus or whatever. All good. And so are the most others I know

    Thanked by 2yoursunny adly
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FlorinMarian said:
    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

    1. Block all SMTP ports (25,465,587) by default.
    2. If user needs to deliver mail via specific server such MXroute, open ticket to unblock encrypted mail ports (465,587) to specific server for free. Your automation must be able to adjust the firewall automatically if the DNS record of mail server changes to another IP, which may happen at any time.
    3. If user needs to deliver mail to the Internet, pay €50 deposit to unblock all mail ports (25,465,587) to all destinations. The deposit is refundable after 1 year or service termination, which is earlier, if no blacklisting has occurred.
  • @yoursunny said:

    @FlorinMarian said:
    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

    1. Block all SMTP ports (25,465,587) by default.
    2. If user needs to deliver mail via specific server such MXroute, open ticket to unblock encrypted mail ports (465,587) to specific server for free. Your automation must be able to adjust the firewall automatically if the DNS record of mail server changes to another IP, which may happen at any time.
    3. If user needs to deliver mail to the Internet, pay €50 deposit to unblock all mail ports (25,465,587) to all destinations. The deposit is refundable after 1 year or service termination, which is earlier, if no blacklisting has occurred.

    Nice deal tbh.

  • @yoursunny said:

    @FlorinMarian said:
    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

    1. Block all SMTP ports (25,465,587) by default.
    2. If user needs to deliver mail via specific server such MXroute, open ticket to unblock encrypted mail ports (465,587) to specific server for free. Your automation must be able to adjust the firewall automatically if the DNS record of mail server changes to another IP, which may happen at any time.
    3. If user needs to deliver mail to the Internet, pay €50 deposit to unblock all mail ports (25,465,587) to all destinations. The deposit is refundable after 1 year or service termination, which is earlier, if no blacklisting has occurred.

    Sounds like a much better solution compared to cancelling monthly plan. Besides what is

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep
    edited January 2022
    Good evening!
    We would like to inform you that the server located in Romania will be maintained for a period of several hours in order to intervene on the server, as a defect has been detected that affects the server's performance and running costs.
    The services are not affected, we guarantee that there will be no data loss.
    Thank you for your patience and understanding!
    

    To clarify the situation, our power consumption goes crazy, something went wrong with sensors or firmware and server has power consumption 330W+ even idling (as you can see now, all fans kept at 22800 rpm).
    We'll try to rollback BIOS update (did it about 6 weeks ago) which may cause this issue (we have no idea when this started but we got today extra payment invoice because our server consumed almost double power compared with first month).
    Best regards, Florin.

    Found out who's the intruder:

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @jmaxwell said:

    @yoursunny said:

    @FlorinMarian said:
    It comes from exactly same provider, that means now I can lose more money because I have more IPs on risk.. :neutral:

    1. Block all SMTP ports (25,465,587) by default.
    2. If user needs to deliver mail via specific server such MXroute, open ticket to unblock encrypted mail ports (465,587) to specific server for free. Your automation must be able to adjust the firewall automatically if the DNS record of mail server changes to another IP, which may happen at any time.
    3. If user needs to deliver mail to the Internet, pay €50 deposit to unblock all mail ports (25,465,587) to all destinations. The deposit is refundable after 1 year or service termination, which is earlier, if no blacklisting has occurred.

    Sounds like a much better solution compared to cancelling monthly plan. Besides what is

    Well, the devil is in the details:
    Your automation must be able to adjust the firewall automatically if the DNS record of mail server changes to another IP, which may happen at any time.

    As far as I know, Florin has two intermediate level C++ coders.
    Implementing the above is going to take one of them about 24 hours.
    (I know because I wrote a similar app when I applied for a job at a network measurements company as a candidate coding test)

    Unblocking by IP address without DNS lookups is easy to implement but risky, because whenever the email provider changes IP, customer server can no longer send emails, which is a partial outage.

    Thanked by 1Void
  • @FlorinMarian said: Good evening!
    We would like to inform you that the server located in Romania will be maintained for a period of several hours in order to intervene on the server, as a defect has been detected that affects the server's performance and running costs.
    The services are not affected, we guarantee that there will be no data loss.
    Thank you for your patience and understanding!
    ```

    To clarify the situation, our power consumption goes crazy, something went wrong with sensors or firmware and server has power consumption 330W+ even idling (as you can see now, all fans kept at 22800 rpm).
    We'll try to rollback BIOS update (did it about 6 weeks ago) which may cause this issue (we have no idea when this started but we got today extra payment invoice because our server consumed almost double power compared with first month).
    Best regards, Florin.

    Found out who's the intruder:

    @yoursunny must be up to his normal shenanigans... too many pushups.

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Privacy said:
    @yoursunny must be up to his normal shenanigans... too many pushups.

    Florin wanted me to treat his 5 push-ups as 50 push-ups.
    Unacceptable!

    Thanked by 1Privacy
  • PrivacyPrivacy Member
    edited January 2022

    @yoursunny said: Florin wanted me to treat his 5 push-ups as 50 push-ups.
    Unacceptable!

    It was all those YABS you run. I bet you caused the fire in OVH SBG location, too.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @FlorinMarian said:
    To clarify the situation, our power consumption goes crazy, something went wrong with sensors or firmware and server has power consumption 330W+ even idling (as you can see now, all fans kept at 22800 rpm).

    You reminded me to check the power consumption of our server.

    • idle: 157.00 W
    • 50% loaded: 358.00 W
    • 75% loaded: 440.00 W

    It's dual Xeon Gold 6240 18-core processors.
    The power adapter label says "10 Amps" so I asked for 1200W circuit, but it seems that I didn't need that much after all.

    When you grow up you should buy this CPU, which offers more computing power within the same power consumption.

    Thanked by 1FlorinMarian
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Privacy said:

    @yoursunny said: Florin wanted me to treat his 5 push-ups as 50 push-ups.
    Unacceptable!

    It was all those YABS you run. I bet you caused the fire in OVH SBG location, too.

    https://yoursunny.com/t/2021/OVH-halt-and-catch-fire/
    According to Hacker News, a Dev mistakenly invoked the Halt and Catch Fire instruction on an Uninterrupted Power Supply unit, causing this incident.

    The next fire could be caused by the SWMBSF instruction:

  • AlbaHostAlbaHost Member, Patron Provider

    @jmaxwell said:
    @FlorinMarian said:

    New unpleasant update:
    Because one beautiful guy used a budget server for Botnet & Email spamming, we have to pay 50 eur for blacklist removal :smile:
    Because of this wonderful guy, budget packages are now available only with yearly payment.
    Best regards, Florin.

    I'm just curious how other providers deal with scenarios like this.

    I know only one and that is cogent, they will charge you $20-25 buck for any abuse. But at least not 50€...

    Thanked by 1Void
  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep

    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

  • @FlorinMarian said:
    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

    theres gotta be a better way of doing this. ur just burning cash and doesnt instill much confidence to the next potential (legit) customer.

  • @FlorinMarian said:
    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

    Hope you are reporting whoever that is doing this to the authorities.

    Thanked by 1FlorinMarian
  • @FlorinMarian said:
    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

    u dont use maxmind?

  • No offence, but you seem like an easy target.

  • @FlorinMarian said:
    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

    If you are serious about this bussines trow 12k and buy your own ips, 100 euro fine in 5 days is not making you any money. Find a better provider or quit, but don't go cociu style.

    Thanked by 1FlorinMarian
  • FlorinMarianFlorinMarian Member, Host Rep
    edited January 2022

    @AndreiGhesi said:

    @FlorinMarian said:
    One more abuser, again 50 EUR.
    Who said that blocking relevant ports will save us ? :smile:

    If you are serious about this bussines trow 12k and buy your own ips, 100 euro fine in 5 days is not making you any money. Find a better provider or quit, but don't go cociu style.

    We don't count closing business as a feasible solution.
    Thank you for feedback, we'll keep our business running, even that means to lose money for a while.
    Best regards, Florin.

  • @FlorinMarian Have you experienced DDoS attacks yet? After heavy attacks, you can change your mind and shut down the company.

  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    @Hotmarer said:
    @FlorinMarian Have you experienced DDoS attacks yet? After heavy attacks, you can change your mind and shut down the company.

    Mentally strong people don't hide in the shadow and DDoS.
    Stand up and duel at dawn.
    If you dare to attack my brother, I'll find you and put you on the naughty list.

  • It wasn't supposed to sound like an attack announcement.

    @yoursunny said: Mentally strong people don't hide in the shadow and DDoS.

    But its service providers are usually not that strong and dislike DDoS attacks.

    Many small hosting companies have shut down because of DDoS attacks. They are difficult to block and the pressure from customers and service providers is high.

  • @yoursunny said:

    @Hotmarer said:
    @FlorinMarian Have you experienced DDoS attacks yet? After heavy attacks, you can change your mind and shut down the company.

    Mentally strong people don't hide in the shadow and DDoS.
    Stand up and duel at dawn.
    If you dare to attack my brother, I'll find you and put you on the naughty list.

    Reminded me of Three O'Clock High (1987).

    Thanked by 2yoursunny Hotmarer
  • yoursunnyyoursunny Member, IPv6 Advocate

    MS said:
    Reminded me of Three O'Clock High (1987).

    Watched.
    I love this film.

    Thanked by 1_MS_
  • @yoursunny said:

    MS said:
    Reminded me of Three O'Clock High (1987).

    Watched.
    I love this film.

    🤜 🤛

    Yes, it's a very good High School/Teen movie.
    No nudity, parties, drinks or such things like in most of the 80s Hollywood High School and College movies.
    It's a recommended movie just for the unique and funny premise :)

    Thanked by 1yoursunny
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