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  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @cociu - Since Mike is already doing support for you, you should seriously discuss things with him and take his advice on how to clean this mess. I believe he's more experienced and is in a better position to advice you or to step in to mend the situation, in both management and technical aspects.

    Don't try to play smart and take this on all by yourself. You've done enough damage as it is, your reputation and brand is tarnished beyond repair (at this point) so please put your ego aside, pay the right people to help you, as that will probably be the best thing for you to do now.

  • M66BM66B Veteran

    @Francisco said:
    @cociu what were the 12TB drives you posted for sale on the 8th?

    Why weren't those drives used to bring at least a few customers back online?

    Francisco

    This is a simple but excellent question!

  • 3000 affected users but only offer to rebuild 400 VPS, then what about the rest of 2600 affected users?

    I think this is stupid idea considering he sold the HDD on OLX..

    Thanked by 1wions
  • @chocolateshirt said: 3000 affected users but only offer to rebuild 400 VPS, then what about the rest of 2600 affected users?

    Those 2600 users are about to be involucrated with their money.

  • @chocolateshirt said:
    3000 affected users but only offer to rebuild 400 VPS, then what about the rest of 2600 affected users?

    I think this is stupid idea considering he sold the HDD on OLX..

    that's what $36,000 is for

  • defaultdefault Veteran

  • LeviLevi Member

    Monday will be interesting. Until then, let's get rest and refresh our minds.

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @LTniger said:
    [...] let's get rest and refresh our minds.

    Thanked by 2LowLowLow BBTN
  • JorboxJorbox Member

    No more Mondays for you

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker
    edited June 2021

    @Francisco said:

    • As of now the IP's have been confirmed sold/up for sale. No longer a conspiracy.

    Which does not make him a scammer, because that can have diverse reasons, by no means all of them bad or evil. Not informing the concerned customers in advance was creepy and improper though.

    • Hardware has been up for sale, some of it is old, it could legitimately just be from his swapping things out

    ... or he had purchased quite a few in advance for big plans he had. Or ...

    • The hard drives were sold (or at least up for sale) and marked as brand new 12TB drives. These were posted on the 8th, well into the 'we are trying to fix things' period.

    This one makes me laugh (not your saying it but the thing itself). Look, iirc all his major clusterf_cks were storage/disk related. Maybe (not an assertion, just a guess) maybe he finally got it and intends to totally keep away from anything involving disks > 1 or 2 TB and hence sold all them "cursed evil" disks, haha.

    • People will supposedly get refunds? As of now everyones requests have been nuked.

    That doesn't necessarily mean a lot with @cociu and maybe it's not even true. In fact, always refunding is about the one thing I still halfway trust with him.

    • Was there an explanation as to why he backdated his announcement?

    Hell, we are lucky that - after weeks - he gave us anything in terms of explanations and statements. I guess proper and coordinated communication just is something he'll never manage.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @Maounique said:
    Back to the issue at hand, knowing people and all (I am writer) I can bet about 3:1 that
    1. He will refund the people which want a refund;
    2. Restore some boxes albeit I am pretty sure he won't expand the service;
    3. He will continue to have customers from here, whether he will have the provider tag or not. People will repost his offers for free.

    Yes, I agree.

    But still he has heavy losses of reputation plus possibly his paypal account will be closed (and he wont get a new one).

    @Francisco said:
    This is assuming the admins allow it.

    Why wouldn't they, if he fully refunds? My personal guess is that after fully refunding all concerned customers he'll get back his tag but, at least for some "probation time" with some conditions.
    After all @cociu is a major click (and page views) generator.

    If they don't, then you can probably assume that the whole company collapses.

    Nuh, (a) he already (still) has quite many followers, (b) he'd find other ways to make people know about his promos. And btw. he has more (not storage related) happy customers than quite a few other providers here. In fact, if he had learned his lesson the first time ("Stay away from storage!") this whole drama wouldn't have happened. There will be bumps on his way but no roadblocks.

    @Maounique said:
    The company will not collapse if it goes past this point (at least not for the foreseeable future). He will learn.

    ... or so one would think. But frankly I wouldn't bet more than €5 on him learning.

  • notarobonotarobo Barred
    edited June 2021

    as long as cociu don't Deadpool, he will be allowed back for sure.

    his offers alone generate huge traffic, and 10 times more when his boxes blow up. so no need to rebrand at all. his bad reputation alone surpasses many good reputation providers.

    Thanked by 1Maounique
  • @notarobo said: his bad reputation alone surpasses many good reputation providers.

    That is exactly what upsets "certain providers" in my opinion. I've said it before, they hate the fact that the bar seems to be set lower for cociu than it is for them when it comes to expectations. That he seems to have a bad reputation but still remain popular must be enigmatic to say the least.

    Thanked by 1jsg
  • notarobonotarobo Barred
    edited June 2021

    @dahartigan said:

    @notarobo said: his bad reputation alone surpasses many good reputation providers.

    That is exactly what upsets "certain providers" in my opinion. I've said it before, they hate the fact that the bar seems to be set lower for cociu than it is for them when it comes to expectations. That he seems to have a bad reputation but still remain popular must be enigmatic to say the least.

    cociu is willing to take huge risk on his business by operating like this which is downright unprofessional and dubious. but it is not his doing that he's not banned from here (unless I'm wrong). so, providers who are upset can consider adopting the same model, accept the risk of angry customers, accept the risk of removing provider tag and maybe ban, play with PayPal chargebacks and trade on OLX, and can maybe earn "reputation" the same way as this Romanian brother has.

    but customers have every right to be pissed at HS, have every right to chargeback the shit out of their PayPal , and yet also have the same right not to be.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited June 2021

    @dahartigan said: That he seems to have a bad reputation but still remain popular must be enigmatic to say the least.

    There is no enigma. Many people here like illegal and shady stuff and cociu is their brother. How many providers with a good reputation allow what cociu allows? And at that price?
    No enigma at all. He made his bed, now must sleep in it and providers which are jealous, don't, he has his market, you have yours.

    If he will deadpool is due to the legal troubles he will be in. That is still out of his control (at this point after he allowed IP infringement for so long) and will still not be a scammer, people torrenting there know the risks, the fact the provider takes those risks and not them alone deserve the money they pay, the space and traffic come for free hence you cant really expect stellar service for free.

  • jarjar Patron Provider, Top Host, Veteran

    I could personally travel to every customer's house and shit on their door step, and not generate a 79 page thread. Congrats @cociu.

  • @jar said:
    I could personally travel to every customer's house and shit on their door step

    Is that included in every plan or does that cost extra?

  • AlwaysSkintAlwaysSkint Member
    edited June 2021

    @jar, now you really are talking crap! >:)

  • sammsamm Member

    I wonder when this drama will end?

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @samm said:
    I wonder when this drama will end?

    When @cociu arrives at the point of (a) having refunded all concerned customers, and (b) communicating properly and professionally.

    Don't hold your breath for (b)

  • defaultdefault Veteran

    @jsg said:
    [...] In fact, if he had learned his lesson the first time ("Stay away from storage!") this whole drama wouldn't have happened. [...]

    In part I agree, due to his poor management of those 400 drives which got involucrated by his company.

    In some other part I do not agree, because he could not have known (at the time when he made the offers) that a crypto-coin would cause so much chaos in HDD and SSD consumption. Nobody here can predict the future - except for @deank who knows the end of everyone and everything, but this is a completely different discussion.

    I appreciate every provider which tries to make offers, even storage offers. Let's not blame providers for their offers because they do not know what the prices of hardware will be in future. Everybody assumes the prices will go down as technology evolves.

    Cociu is to be blamed for his lack in communication skills, his lack in management of employees to compensate communication, his lack of prioritizing decision making; but definitely can not be blamed for the cheap storage offers which he tried to give us (and for which other providers hated him).

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  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    I've been summoned.

    The end is ni-

    Nevermind. It was a prank call.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @default said:
    In part I agree, due to his poor management of those 400 drives which got involucrated by his company.

    In some other part I do not agree, because he could not have known (at the time when he made the offers) that a crypto-coin would cause so much chaos in HDD and SSD consumption.

    That's just an assumption and in fact I doubt. Simple reason: nobody in his right mind would do China mining (as opposed to storage) on spindles and remote ones at that. Chia storage otoh poses no problem.

    Second and probably more important: storage (beyond a couple of disks in Raid 0 or 1 or 10) is a rather complex field that requires quite some specific knowledge, especially when, as is often the case, low cost is a high ranking criterion. With some petabytes shaving off or wasting 25% is a major factor but also one that is fraught with risks unless one really knows the field.

    From what (little) I see and know @cociu had a good techie in terms of networking and standard systems but he seems to have lacked and to still lack the know-how and experience needed for storage beyond the standard scenario (slap in a couple of (not too big) disks, configure the Raid and pretty much be done)

  • bdlbdl Member

    @jar said:
    I could personally travel to every customer's house and shit on their door step, and not generate a 79 page thread. Congrats @cociu.

    mxpoop :)

  • drizbodrizbo Member

    So from what I gather, the @Francisco and @dahartigan lawsuit is over horseguy's alleged child pornography hosting?

    How do you even file a lawsuit against someone on some random forum? Will you put his LET profile link as "the sued party"? Or how does that work?

    Or do you know eachother? Forum has some very vague privacy policy, but I wonder if that goes out of window for "friends".

  • seriesnseriesn Member
    edited June 2021

    @drizbo said:
    So from what I gather, the @Francisco and @dahartigan lawsuit is over horseguy's alleged child pornography hosting?

    How do you even file a lawsuit against someone on some random forum? Will you put his LET profile link as "the sued party"? Or how does that work?

    Or do you know eachother? Forum has some very vague privacy policy, but I wonder if that goes out of window for "friends".

    Subpoena/court order to release data?

  • FranciscoFrancisco Top Host, Host Rep, Veteran

    @drizbo said: So from what I gather, the @Francisco and @dahartigan lawsuit is over horseguy's alleged child pornography hosting?

    Every host has CP on them; TOR secret services, etc. Any host that claims without a shadow of a doubt they have none is a host you shouldn't trust as it means they're going through every clients data.

    What he claims is that i willingly go out of my way to host it, protect it, promote it. That's where I take issue with it.

    Francisco

  • drizbodrizbo Member
    edited June 2021

    @seriesn said: Subpoena/court order to release data?

    Obviously if it goes to court, I was more wondering if it even needs to go there for "friends" of admins to get some basic info.

    And to quote policy:

    "What rights you have over your data

    If you have an account on this site, or have left comments, you can request to receive an exported file of the personal data we hold about you, including any data you have provided to us. You can also request that we erase any personal data we hold about you. This does not include any data we are obliged to keep for administrative, legal, or security purposes."

    So... If someone requests their personal data to be deleted. What do you delete and what do you keep ?

  • @Francisco said:

    @drizbo said: So from what I gather, the @Francisco and @dahartigan lawsuit is over horseguy's alleged child pornography hosting?

    Every host has CP on them; TOR secret services, etc. Any host that claims without a shadow of a doubt they have none is a host you shouldn't trust as it means they're going through every clients data.

    What he claims is that i willingly go out of my way to host it, protect it, promote it. That's where I take issue with it.

    Francisco

    Buyvm in India when? Maybe you can partner with https://internetfreedom.in/ and fight against new government policies

  • rcy026rcy026 Member

    @default said:
    In part I agree, due to his poor management of those 400 drives which got involucrated by his company.

    In some other part I do not agree, because he could not have known (at the time when he made the offers) that a crypto-coin would cause so much chaos in HDD and SSD consumption. Nobody here can predict the future - except for @deank who knows the end of everyone and everything, but this is a completely different discussion.

    I appreciate every provider which tries to make offers, even storage offers. Let's not blame providers for their offers because they do not know what the prices of hardware will be in future. Everybody assumes the prices will go down as technology evolves.

    Cociu is to be blamed for his lack in communication skills, his lack in management of employees to compensate communication, his lack of prioritizing decision making; but definitely can not be blamed for the cheap storage offers which he tried to give us (and for which other providers hated him).

    I do not agree here.
    True, cociu can not foresee the future. But then again, so can none of all the other providers here and they are still doing fine.
    What bothers me about cociu is his total lack of responsibility and the fact that a lot of people does not seem bothered by it. People here have been pointing out for years that his business is not sustainable and it will crash and burn, and now that it happened, those people get called jerks because they say I told you so by the same people that still defend cociu and tries to come up with excuses for everything he does.
    Nobody in here could get away with even a fraction of what cociu has done the last few weeks without total decapitation by the community, but in cociu's case it's ok because he's cheap and talks funny? No way, it's double standards and it really bothers me.

This discussion has been closed.