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Big Drama, Very shameful, in the whole industry there is no single competitor of Cpanel
Maybe Elon Musk can start a company to revolutionize the hole industry.
Agreed -- it took me way too long just to figure out that creating a user account meant that I had to switch in to the reseller area. That said, after you get the hang of it, it's actually quite easy.
Hope so, Only competitor can stop Cpanel
In an interesting turn of events, my partner pricing for lifetime licenses has disappeared from the DA website. The only one available now is $299. If they're going to get rid of that because of the new influx in clients, that's going to really annoy me...
I have said that before we have to consider free alternatives
Completely agreed!
No, not really. cPanel has never been libre or free (gratuit). The already existing price of cPanel has simply been raised suddenly.
Costs involved with development and maintenance need to come from somewhere. I'm all for free and open source but for such a major undertaking it's unreasonable to expect a full team wouldn't be required and someone to manage them + support staff. This doesn't happen for free, it requires major investment. Quality comes with a price.
cPanel's new pricing isn't insane for what they offer, it's the uncertainty that comes with it from month to month, the fact that it was a surprise announcement and that they didn't take into account how their product was current being used (or they did and that's why the pricing is as it is). If they released an unlimited licence at a reasonable cost it might not have caused such an upset.
Shades of Turing Pharmaceuticals.
Apache changed their license (the Apache License) from v1.1 to v2.0 some 15 years ago, which upset a number of people, most notably, the OpenBSD people, who decided that they couldn't include the newly licensed (license v2.0) Apache web server in their base. So they effectively forked the last version of Apache web server under the old license (license v1.1) and included their forked version in their base for a decade thereafter.
(See https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=107714762916291 )
There was also the whole GPLv2 vs GPLv3 issue that affected many free software projects.
(As far as I'm aware, the free version of MySQL has never changed its license.)
Nonetheless, as I tried to say to @Hxxx above, the case of cPanel, which is neither libre nor free (gratuit), really falls into a different category. If a piece of software changes its license from a free license to a proprietary license, people are free to fork the last version of the software that falls under a free license. In the case of cPanel, which has always fallen under a proprietary license, this isn't possible.
O_o
^ This is actually what always helped me kinda. About 99% of my clients used WordPress so I would just one-click backup&restore using AIO WP Migration. Sure, I'd need to add the clients' account manually on new server/control panel and assign Ressources but the website transfer was easy atleast. I never offered E-Mail hosting along with it (speaking of my managed clients) as I always felt it would be a pity if smth happened^^
Anyway, this obviously does not apply to most providers here but perhaps some will even be pushing into Apps hosing after this offering WP hosting on a Centminmod Stack?! Who knows?
As far as I can tell, they did indeed take into account how product was currently being used, which is precisely why they removed the unlimited license.
I have a lot of sympathy for shared hosting providers and resellers who depended on and made good use of the unlimited cPanel license, but I guess that the worst consequence is that providers, resellers, and end-users will all have to pay (sometimes significantly) more for shared cPanel hosting, which should have the not necessarily so bad consequence that providers, resellers, and end-users will consider alternative solutions more seriously.
Well ISPConfig vanilla stores backups locally. In ISPConfig manual (page 277 iirc) it is however explained how you can create a shell script that will store the backup in a remote location by mounting a remote drive.
A forum user explained it like this:
It's also explained here: https://schaal-it.com/ispconfig-backup-space/
Of course you could also just rsync/scp the local folder to your remote locations. Which would probably be my way to go. Just rsync/scp with a cron to 2-3 remote backup locations (cheap NAT storage, 1Fichier FTP and another one) and be done with it. Of course that's my websites and my responsiblity.
If you are hosting WP sites use smth like Updraft to schedule remote backups.
If you are using the Softaculous extension, use Softaculous backup?!
If you need an Open Source Free Panel with Remote Backups included in vanilla go with Keyhelp. It's great and allows FTP/SFTP right off the bat :P
Last but not least don't forget ISPConfig is open source and you are free to implement GDrive API backups and whatnot
Already corrected
sorry for mistake
Market share is much more important to keep a product alive and financially wealthy. And for another reason: CPanel's growth has been exploded not only for the panel itself, but (combined with the market tactics that spread the usage) because of the hundereds of developers that made a ton of addons and plugins to suit the need of every client out there.
If those developers see slowdown in growth or decline in market share, or even a great increase in interest to port them on other competitors or open source panels, then, they will probably offer them for different platforms. See Jetbackup, they have announced since a while that they are on the road to port their plugin for Direct Admin.
All and all, for the end non technical user, all CPanel for him is a familiar interface to be able to create a site, use softaculous and backup their shit. If he can do the same (or almost the same) tasks with an interface that will not be really far from what he has used until now, he won't care about.
For more technical end users, a change to another panel will be even more easy for them.
DA is really a one click backup. ISPConfig's backup is a weak point for this panel... There are custom solutions and scripts from developers on the www, but it is not anywhere near solutions like Jetbackup.
On the other hand, ISPconfig is in fact a plain web server with all the elements installed by hand and the panel itself is just an orchestrator on what the user had previously installed. So, more traditional backup solutions for a server can fit perfectly under the panel.
IMO, the best backup from all the panels is the one VestaCP has... Extremely simple in use, flexible in terms of quantity and frequency, extremely easy to restore and really safe (if the script fails, there is always the option to be imported manually). It is transferable in any environment, as long as the user install a fresh vestacp instance and you can move a user damn easy. I use Vesta for more than two years in a lot of servers and I have not failed to even one backup.
The only negative is that there is not an option for restoring as batch a lot of users but, IIRC, it has to be done independently for each user...
If I were the owner of DirectAdmin I would:
Grab a beer
Keep the current prices and keep selling lifetime licenses... for a while
Then, if enough people switch to using my panel, after a year, or two:
"Improve the quality of my support and adjust the pricing policy accordingly".
I kinda agree with this, too. Similar to what @Falzo has pointed out earlier I, too, have been using VestaCP/Hestia for quite a while and was struck by its' simplicity. At some points I also have used it for clients and only moved because I grew more fond of ISPConfig at some point. I believe the Vesta issues/hacks are to some extent also caused by the lack of server owners securing their servers (like not securing them..at all sometimes) so it's hard to say. It appears like I am not the only one from this community who has run Vesta without getting hacked. Anyway, I can understand everyone who is saying that Vesta is no solution for their professional hosting services but that's again for each one to decide. Looking forward, if I were to go that direction again, I'd probably stick to Hestia moving forward, as long as it is actively maintained. If things go down south I could probably still export the backups toa fresh Vesta install, easily.
I think you described ISPConfig really well
It's one of the reasons I love it.
For me, personally, making an extra cron to backup to remote locations is no issue that'd keep me from using it.
DirectAdmin Staff have updated their Tutorial on migrating from cPanel to DA and created a new post for this:
https://forum.directadmin.com/showthread.php?t=58059
Glad to see they are monitoring the events that are going on
This is them reaching out to invite people to DA.
@AnthonySmith @KuJoe @mikho
The transfer (as explained by DA staff) looks fairly simple.
we need dpanel instead of cpanel and may be epanel fpanel etc. I hope there is a good solutions.
alphapanel
btw, https://mzunguhosting.ml is still offering unlimited cPanel reseller account
Their forum seems to work again, the discussion is located at https://forums.cpanel.net/threads/announcing-account-based-pricing.656071/
Cool, when will the electricity be on next?
We will be migrating single websites to DirectAdmin shortly, this increases our price hugely, not exactly happy with it. Most of our single users don't ever log in to cPanel regardless. It's the resellers we are worried about.
The only thing single website hosting accounts need is access to webmail and Wordpress mainly. We are not pushing this over to old users (unlike cPanel) We will go with our feet and move to DirectAdmin.
I'm also wondering if DirectAdmin has the same functionality as cPanel WHMCS but I highly doubt this.
It's hugely clear that cPanel support and staff knew nothing about this also until it was announced.
Wow thank you!
Dunno, but network is fast my man!
There is a plugin to use slave dns trough DA api without the need of second license
https://forum.directadmin.com/showthread.php?t=54992