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New cPanel Licensing and Pricing Structure - thoughts?

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  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, ๐Ÿšฉ Host Rep Tag Suspended

    Thanks, will vote shortly!

    Does anyone know why cPanel website is inaccessible right now?

  • @SecNinja said:
    What open source panel are you all getting behind? Give me an idea, I need to know where to dedicate my time.

    There are a handful of open source panels, but surely one or two stand out above the rest? It's been a while since I looked at any of them so I have no idea on the state of their features or dev cycles.

    Have you had the chance to check CyberPanel - Open-source Panel Based on OpenLiteSpeed ?

  • @limited said:
    Have you had the chance to check CyberPanel - Open-source Panel Based on OpenLiteSpeed ?

    I guess we sent off some flaws to them in 2018. Not sure what they were TBH, as it was done over Slack and not traditional means...

    Reached out to them about an hour ago to get a full license. Going to go over them and a couple other open source panels, from top to bottom to help the community get a better idea of who had the most flaws but also who was the best at fixing them.

  • ITLabsITLabs Member
    edited June 2019

    @WebProject said:

    Does anyone know why cPanel website is inaccessible right now?

    DDoS:

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Is it just me or whatever they say on Twitter feels like trolling.

  • @SecNinja said:

    @limited said:
    Have you had the chance to check CyberPanel - Open-source Panel Based on OpenLiteSpeed ?

    I guess we sent off some flaws to them in 2018. Not sure what they were TBH, as it was done over Slack and not traditional means...

    Reached out to them about an hour ago to get a full license. Going to go over them and a couple other open source panels, from top to bottom to help the community get a better idea of who had the most flaws but also who was the best at fixing them.

    Sounds promising. Perhaps the developer @cyberpersons could help out with the licensing?

  • DDoS

    This is the Plesk team who initiated the DDoS to their brothers. That's because Plesk's servers went down after the thousands of cPanel users started to migrate to them.

    In a serious manner, I think the person who initiated this is really angry about the new prices.

    Thanked by 1lazyt
  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Well, they should know that DDoSing them will actually help them since they wouldn't need to deal with the flame wars on their forums.

    Thanked by 2teochristian imok
  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, ๐Ÿšฉ Host Rep Tag Suspended

    @teochristian said:

    DDoS

    This is the Plesk team who initiated the DDoS to their brothers. That's because Plesk's servers went down after the thousands of cPanel users started to migrate to them.

    In a serious manner, I think the person who initiated this is really angry about the new prices.

    Looking on the Twitter replies no one give a f**k about cPanel as they are greedy.

  • Great! web.archive.org seems to be offering the same old pricing: http://web.archive.org/web/20190610065558/https://cpanel.net/pricing/

    Problem solved using time machine!
    Because newer is not always better (TM)

    Thanked by 1dedicados
  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    @teochristian said:
    Because newer is not always better (TM)

    That goes the same for Apple products.

    Apple is now selling a metal stick (Monitor stand) for 999 USD. Fuck'em.

    Thanked by 1hostdare
  • teochristianteochristian Barred
    edited June 2019

    @deank said:

    @teochristian said:
    Because newer is not always better (TM)

    That goes the same for Apple products.

    I know. Solution: Don't use Apple. DIY

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    I don't.

    Teens, especially girls, seem to love Apple though.

  • teochristianteochristian Barred
    edited June 2019

    Teens, especially girls, seem to love Apple though.

    That's because it is expensive maybe... This should be why cPanel is increasing the prices: they want to attract teens :smiley:

    Thanked by 1mk1
  • level6level6 Member

    .> @SecNinja said:

    What open source panel are you all getting behind? Give me an idea, I need to know where to dedicate my time.

    There are a handful of open source panels, but surely one or two stand out above the rest? It's been a while since I looked at any of them so I have no idea on the state of their features or dev cycles.

    Simple question with a complicated answer. It appears that all of them are lacking in some significant way, compared to cPanel.

  • teochristian said: they want to attract teens

    stupid teens..

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    @dedicados said:

    teochristian said: they want to attract teens

    stupid teens..

    Summer hosts

  • letboxletbox Member, Patron Provider

    @WebProject said:

    Thanks, will vote shortly!

    Does anyone know why cPanel website is inaccessible right now?

    They go to dead pool before collecting new incoming money ๐Ÿ˜‚

  • WebProjectWebProject Veteran, ๐Ÿšฉ Host Rep Tag Suspended
    edited June 2019

    key900 said: They go to dead pool before collecting new incoming money ๐Ÿ˜‚

    based on today downtime they do use AlphaRacks, their node just was terminated for outstanding bills :smiley: the rest about DDoS is excuses as they do looking for backups if they do have as their control panel is very often failing to do it

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    Or they shut down in name of DDoS in an attempt to silence raging customers. I am getting this vibe from their twitter posts. They seem happy to be down at the moment.

    Give it a few days and it will be much more manageable since PMS don't generally last for days.

    Thanked by 1bikegremlin
  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @SecNinja said:
    Going to go over them and a couple other open source panels, from top to bottom to help the community get a better idea of who had the most flaws but also who was the best at fixing them.

    Keep us posted, I'll be happy to create WHMCS modules for whichever one(s) you deem worth investing time in (assuming a module isn't already available).

  • @limited said:

    @SecNinja said:

    @limited said:
    Have you had the chance to check CyberPanel - Open-source Panel Based on OpenLiteSpeed ?

    I guess we sent off some flaws to them in 2018. Not sure what they were TBH, as it was done over Slack and not traditional means...

    Reached out to them about an hour ago to get a full license. Going to go over them and a couple other open source panels, from top to bottom to help the community get a better idea of who had the most flaws but also who was the best at fixing them.

    Sounds promising. Perhaps the developer @cyberpersons could help out with the licensing?

    Sure, the license is already assigned to @SecNinja account. Thanks for the input.

    Thanked by 2limited lazyt
  • HxxxHxxx Member

    The hosting industry just learned a lesson.

    I wish all the open source services and projects involved or used within cPanel that actually make cPanel what it is..., change their license to exclude cPanel from using them.

    This is like if Apache or MariaDB/Mysql were to change from open to proprietary in all version.

    Selling licenses so expensive for just a skin and a few wrappers...

  • KuJoeKuJoe Member, Host Rep

    @Hxxx said:
    This is like if Apache or MariaDB/Mysql were to change from open to proprietary in all version.

    Something like that happened not too long ago, I forget which software it was but it was up there with Apache and MySQL in popularity. The devs changed the license away from GPL or something and the community just forked the last version that was under GPL and kept it alive and strong. It was a really eye opening moment for me and I was super impressed at how the community handled it. I really wish I could remember what software it was.

  • I just moved a cPanel install from one machine to another... son of a B*tch. Now I'm going to install Direct Admin and reupload the data

    Thanked by 2dedicados emgh
  • v3ngv3ng Member, Host Rep

    @adxn said:

    @v3ng said:

    @Jorbox said:
    Key help panel looks great. Anyone tried it?

    I'm using Keyhelp, its super stable and very reliable. Can definitely recommend trying.

    Do they have an English version?

    Yup

  • donlidonli Member

    @SecNinja said:
    What open source panel are you all getting behind? Give me an idea, I need to know where to dedicate my time.

    There are a handful of open source panels, but surely one or two stand out above the rest? It's been a while since I looked at any of them so I have no idea on the state of their features or dev cycles.

    ISPConfig .

    Thanked by 1Ympker
  • MasonRMasonR Community Contributor
    edited June 2019

    Looking at this from a different angle, I believe the forcing small companies away from cpanel was completely intentional. Let's face it, the big non-LE mainstream hosts are likely to stick with cpanel and either eat the cost or increase prices, while LE hosts will seek an alternative.

    In one fell swoop, they change up their pricing structure to basically eliminate a significant portion of their clientbase, yet still maintain the same amount of revenue. It's a win-win for them. They get to greatly reduce their support load and perhaps hire some more devs instead without losing any revenue in the process.

    I'm not saying this is ethical at all, but in the end they are a business trying to increase profits, streamline processes, and cut expenditures. I'm personally excited to see interest in alternative panels as that's going to drive innovation. It's about time cpanel lost their monopoly on the LE market (and seeing less "alpha beta master omega reseller" offers is just an added bonus).

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