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New cPanel Licensing and Pricing Structure - thoughts?

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  • SmartHostSmartHost Patron Provider, Veteran

    Time for someone to buy the old CPanel rights when it was split off from VDI back in the 90's, and start developing it as a new fork of CPanel.
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  • edited June 2019

    @TinFoil2019 said:
    @ZotiMediaGroup customer pays you $25 and puts 250 accounts on his reseller. You now are providing him a service for free because your cost is 25.

    Yes, why not?

    What about the rest of 200 who have only 10 accounts? Volume makes the win.

  • ZotiMediaGroup said: To get a bill of $20k the server must have 100k accounts on it, this is not the case (will never be) .

    I think you are missing the point @AnthonySmith is making.

    Whether it's the case or not, under your offerings it's TECHNICALLY possible (as you advertise).

  • LeeLee Veteran

    ZotiMediaGroup said: I think we will discuss in this topic many years till you get a fan of alphas

    Wait a minute, why the fuck are you even here posting, were you not banned for having multiple accounts and shilling?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Too late for that.

  • edited June 2019

    @Mic-hael said:

    ZotiMediaGroup said: To get a bill of $20k the server must have 100k accounts on it, this is not the case (will never be) .

    I think you are missing the point @AnthonySmith is making.

    Whether it's the case or not, under your offerings it's TECHNICALLY possible (as you advertise).

    I will like this challange as in this case I will have 100 full servers.

  • AmitzAmitz Member

    What makes you guys prefer DA over, for example, Virtualmin? Features? Support?

    And what will happen to my Knownhost managed cPanel VPS? And my 3-year Hostmantis cPanel reseller account? I feel with those who have cPanel as part of their business model!

  • ZotiMediaGroup said: I will like this challange as in this case I will have 100 full server.

    Now you are DEFINITELY missing the point..

    You would have a full server at a loss of thousands of dollars because you sell unlimited accounts for less than the actual cost of it.

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Host Rep

    ZotiMediaGroup said: I will like this challange as in this case I will have 100 full servers.

    I see, you are a prize idiot then.

  • @ZotiMediaGroup but your incremental cost of goods sold was ZERO before today- Basically you could cram your server with resellers until it cried and died. Now your incremental cost is $.10 per reseller and $.10 per each of their resellers and $.10 per their customers. so if one alpha has 10 resellers with 10 clients each. your cost is 10.10 just for cpanel. So keep offering unlimited- you go broke. Unlimited is either dead or whoever offers it is going to fail.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    @Mic-hael said:
    Now you are DEFINITELY missing the point..

    You would have a full server at a loss of thousands of dollars because you sell unlimited accounts for less than the actual cost of it.

    I think he understands, sort of.

    It's just that he is utterly desperate for clients.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Host Rep

    Amitz said: And what will happen to my Knownhost managed cPanel VPS? And my 3-year Hostmantis cPanel reseller account? I feel with those who have cPanel as part of their business model!

    Yep indeed, I guess I am lucky, I only spend the last few months perfecting things to really start pushing shared hosting so I am not in a bad situation yet, I perhaps lost a few weeks worth of my time and I may end up loosing $1000 or so in accounts I may need to refund since I started really pushing things a few weeks ago.

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  • edited June 2019

    @Mic-hael said:

    ZotiMediaGroup said: I will like this challange as in this case I will have 100 full server.

    Now you are DEFINITELY missing the point..

    You would have a full server at a loss of thousands of dollars because you sell unlimited accounts for less than the actual cost of it.

    Nope, I do really understand your point.
    If you can see my comment am talking about +$200 - $300 per server with the new pricing. Lets say we do a nett win of 2k per server means we got 10% price increase.

    If the math of Anthony hapends to me, I will be really happy.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Host Rep

    TinFoil2019 said: Now your incremental cost is $.10

    That is partner pricing, regular is $0.20

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    @Ympker said:
    FWIW there is a script from the admin of DA:

    Importing cPanel Backups in Direct Admin

    There will always be tons of stuff missing. Unsupported features, unsuported features within a feature. I am assuring you i'd be a hassle for someone like me with many websites and some of them using cPanel features that might or might not be avalible on another panel.

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  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad

    Still interested to see @HostMantis take on this.

  • @AnthonySmith said:
    Yep indeed, I guess I am lucky, I only spend the last few months perfecting things to really start pushing shared hosting so I am not in a bad situation yet, I perhaps lost a few weeks worth of my time and I may end up loosing $1000 or so in accounts I may need to refund since I started really pushing things a few weeks ago.

    Hey @AnthonySmith are going to pull out offering shared hosting totally?

  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    @AnthonySmith said:

    TinFoil2019 said: Now your incremental cost is $.10

    That is partner pricing, regular is $0.20

    Correct, though still pretty bad for companies with a bunch of resellers.

  • deankdeank Member, Troll
    edited June 2019

    Well, reseller hosting is dead with this.

    Some hosts are gonna get burned really hard when some kids decide to abuse this.

  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    Should I buy the alpha beta gamma reseller from D3wlance?

  • deankdeank Member, Troll

    Do it. Create unlimited accounts.

  • emghemgh Member, Megathread Squad
    edited June 2019

    @FAT32 said:
    Should I buy the alpha beta gamma reseller from D3wlance?

    Or just a normal reseller, same effect. Or the Alpha and give out free reseller accounts to LET users.

  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    What's all the shit about?
    Just put a limit on the reseller accounts, plan the density per server and that's it. Oh yeah your profit margin will decrease but that's about it.

    Stop the over sensitive bitching drama about cPanel price increase.

    Summer hosts will die, the actual serious web hosts will survive.

    The end is not nigh!

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  • FAT32FAT32 Administrator, Deal Compiler Extraordinaire

    @deank said:
    Do it. Create unlimited accounts.

    @emgh said:
    Or just a normal reseller, same effect. Or the Alpha and give out free reseller accounts to LET users.

    Sounds like a plan

  • MikePTMikePT Veteran

    @BlaZe said:
    What's all the shit about?
    Just put a limit on the reseller accounts, plan the density per server and that's it. Oh yeah your profit margin will decrease but that's about it.

    Stop the over sensitive bitching drama about cPanel price increase.

    Summer hosts will die, the actual serious web hosts will survive.

    The end is not nigh!

    I imagine you don't run a hosting company.

  • FHRFHR Member, Host Rep

    Time for ISPConfig to rise once again

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  • BlaZeBlaZe Member, Host Rep

    @MikePT said:

    @BlaZe said:
    What's all the shit about?
    Just put a limit on the reseller accounts, plan the density per server and that's it. Oh yeah your profit margin will decrease but that's about it.

    Stop the over sensitive bitching drama about cPanel price increase.

    Summer hosts will die, the actual serious web hosts will survive.

    The end is not nigh!

    I imagine you don't run a hosting company.

    Stopped Shared/Reseller years ago...

  • I guess mxroute didnt lock in their vendor pricing before offering 10 year plans

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