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Scaleway new server range
Renamed few of the plan names, increased price and reduced core count (as usual)
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"Development Instances are running on AMD EPYC shared cores and are designed to support websites and applications as well as development and staging environments. " - thats why.. No more atoms, finally..
https://blog.scaleway.com/2019/introducing-development-cloud-instances/
You can still lock in START-1-XS for 1.99 EUR in AMS, which is being removed in the new lineup (cheapest will be 2.99 EUR). ACT NOW :D
So a double price increase, interesting.
Bloody french.
online.net sucks anyways
Hetzner winning this.
The 2 core START1-S is €3.99, the 2 core DEV1-S is €2.99. If anything they've gone back to their old pricing for 2 core instances (which were €2.99) but with a significant storage and speed reduction. It sounds like these DEV instances have better CPUs than the START instances?
START1-S
cores 2 x86-64 2 GB 50 GB
NVMe 200 Mbit/s €3.99/mo
€0.008/hr
DEV1-S
cores 2 x86-64 2 GB 20 GB
NVMe 100 Mbits/s €2.99/mo
€0.006/hr
In what ways is Hetzner winning? Just curious. I think I had tested Scaleway vs Hetzner and Scaleway CPU performance was better. Also 2 core VPS are still cheaper at Scaleway, cheapest at Hetzner is €4.90, cheapest at Scaleway is €2.99 now.
This is all i care about:
C1 4 ARMv7 2 GB 50 GB 200 Mbits/s 1 Gbit/s €2.99/mo €0.006/hr
Woow, look at that:
RENDER-S New 10 cores 1 GPU 45 GB 400 GB NVMe 1 Gbit/s €500.00/mo €1.00/hr
GPU A spawned GPU Instance is yours for as long as you like. They cannot be pre-empted within the next 30 seconds, even if their prices are very attractive. Billing is stable and predictable so you can let your tasks run with peace of mind. We propose you the best price-performance ratio.
This server is more worthy than me.
The ARM dedi is sadly too limited, can't run own kernel easily, slow and weird network-based storage, doesn't have and will not have IPv6. Even their own ARM VPSes are honestly a smoother product (not to mention the CPU being multiple times faster).
The VC1-> Start lineup had a 60% CPU performance increase from independent benchmarks people posted. And these newer CPUs for the DEV instances apparently will be a step up from the Start CPUs so again we will have processing speed improvements while returning to the prior price point for 2 cores. If anything, they keep improving their offerings even if we are losing storage/speed as a result, CPU performance keeps improving. It's too bad they couldn't keep it at 200mbit with 50g though. The fact they did away with the 1 core plan maybe it wasn't a long term viable option to offer. Hetzner wins hand downs when it comes to network speed at least, since it is 10gbit (though Scaleway may have more preferential routing).
They do not offer PayPal so I am not interested.
Not that i've run an objective benchmark or something, but when i tried thread and network intensive tasks on Commercial (baremetal) vs VirtualCommercial (VPS), i got way better results on the baremetal.
Their VC1 are CPU and I/O limited, thus practically weaker than the C1.
If you want to idle those machines, you can remove the IPv4 address (reserved), and it will only be 0.99 EUR per month. You can add an IPv4 when you want to actually use it for something.
Network port speed doesn't mean much unless there's fast peering to go with it. Hetzner beats everyone for local hardware resources, but I've found OVH's network to be somewhat better than Hetzner's at least for transatlantic traffic. I haven't directly compared Online/Scaleway's though I still have a couple of dedis with them. Hetzner in EU is good but I suspect the 10gbps ports on their cloud VPS to be of most usefulness if both ends of the connection are inside Hetzner.
That's interesting if Scaleway has ditched the Atom and D-15xx stuff completely and migrated to Epyc. I wonder how loaded the cores are. The higher end "general purpose" Epyc stuff is way too expensive per month for my tastes. But it gives an easy way to try out Epyc for a few hours so I might do that.
They also seem to be deprecating the ARM stuff. I still have a Scaleway C1 dedi (one of the two dedis I mentioned above) and have kept it around because it's a somewhat unique product and it's cheap, and I felt like if I cancelled it I wouldn't be able to get another one. I occasionally used it for ARM dev purposes. But I'd be better off just using my Beaglebone or getting a Raspberry Pi or something.
No user iso, no *BSD, only those scaleway modded linux distros, practically non existent support and prices that increase every while...
Being an Online's loyal customer years ago I wonder where this company is really going today...
I wonder down the road what happens to those us with the original VC and Start plans. I imagine at some point they will phase out the older hardware since they don't offer new instances on them?
That could eventually happen but it looks like they will continue to support the old stuff for a while longer.
In the way being less dicks with "surprise price change".
Do you have benchmark results like Unixbench and or Geekbench?
I like that there's a 256GB instance. It's expensive, but Hetzner doesn't have one at all. I wonder if the CPU threads on that "general purpose" series are dedicated. If they are, the pricing is in the same general league as Hetzner's dedicated-cpu cloud instances.
I notice looking at ovh.com they are offering a $35 coupon for cloud services, good for 1 month, if anyone cares: https://www.ovh.com/world/public-cloud/instances/
I'm not that excited by the OVH offer but could imagine using it for a few free hours on a huge machine, if I had a use for that.
DEV1-XL will fullfill my hungry memory ansible.
VC1 is not offered anymore, it was using an old 8-core Atom with CPU heavily oversold (lots of "steal%" in top). The current START-XS doesn't seem to have this issue, and the ARM VPS is a different thing entirely, with even the 3 EUR VPS providing 4 cores which also do not seem oversold: the Cavium ThunderX CPU has 48 cores, and supposedly there are more than one of these in a server.
Dunno if I saved them. Takes a penny to spin up one and test. :P
It's a dedicated ARM machine. There is no ARM VPS. It is an actual server with a tiny motherboard and everything.
That's the C1, which is 32-bit ARM. There is also a series of ARM VPS with up to 64 cores. They are 64-bit ARM and the 4-core one was also 3 EUR/m and somewhat faster than the C1, though not dedicated.
I did a gcc 7.2 build on the 8-core, 32gb version a while back, that took 689 minutes of cpu time, 136 minutes real time (the build script doesn't always keep all the cores busy). That's much longer than a reasonable 8-core x86 would take.
You are so, so dumb, this is sad.
Obviously x86 is order of magnitudes faster, but for specific use cases, for example (an HTTP server) I usually check the exact instruction that takes most CPU time with perf.
perf annotate --stdio
And Golang for example has a buildin objdump, that let's trace the ARM opcode to the source-level function.
So optimizing those instructions will make some routines on ARM have roughly the same performance of x86
Spun up a base model 2Core/2GB Development EPYC vm.
Geekbench4: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12662939
and cpuinfo:
The 3core/4GB Dev vm doesn't really scale up multi-core performance like one would think : https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/12663198
That's like almost every VPS I buy...whenever I get a good VPS I think hey I might as well get an upgrade for a little more performance! only for the 2nd VPS with more cores to get stuck on a node thats more overloaded =/.