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Wtf is us data protection law? Pipa/sopa out already?
@joejoe91
I would like to know why I was refunded $1 at least.
@spycrab101 OVH in the US?
@KuJoe Please apologize to your client for downloading illegal content and/or malicious activity. As you can tell from this post he is VERY upset.sarcasm I just don't understand some people's logic on this. Unless the TOS/AUP states "We welcome all illegal content and malicious activity on all of our products" why are you complaining about this. First off, I'm sure this is a sub 7/mo VPS. If you planned on doing what you did from the start you knew it was just a matter of time before this happened. Maybe you just didn't think it would happen so fast? Unfortunately and I'm sure i speak for all the providers on LET/LEB with our price point, this kind of behavior like from @spycrab101 happens more than we'd like.
-Crystal
my2centsonthisone
@24khost
I've used them in France and US (Canada?)
You seem to do this a lot...
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SABnzbd:
annnnnd:
I haven't used Usenet since ~2004. Around that time, about all Usenet was still used for was trafficking warez. It's now 8 years later: has anyone come up with another use for Usenet other than trafficking warez?
@spycrab101 Canada is not US!
@Damian
SABnzbd can be used to download legal binarys from usenet I guess. It's still none of sd's business what I use it for unless they have a legal duty to act? eg dcma.
@24khost
They market it for usa I think? I can't remember if my vps was in canada or usa.
If I were you, I would be happy this was not turned over to the local authorities. Then you could have enjoyed being sued by the rights holder on the item you were pirating. I guarantee there are some people out there that wouldn't have been nice enough to just terminate you, and would have passed your info to the authorities to pursue you.
Also, I hope you realize that OpenVZ uses a shared drive where you are given a directory and a quota. On OpenVZ they do not have to snoop in your VPS to see your files, they are all available plain as day on the storage volume in the server, so any script running and checking that volume would see not only all your files, but all the files of all the containers. If this was a XEN/KVM container, your given your own disk partition which is a bit more secure, and they can't directly run scripts to catch your data unless they go inside your VPS and do so.
FYI there is NO provider that exists that will knowingly allow you to perform illegal acts on their property and store illegal data, weather that be in the US or Europe (bar the few unethical hosts in some 'offshore' hosting that seem not to care at all, but even then they usually bar some things, like child porn and the like). If you are going to use a VPS for torrenting, use a VPN and download the files directly through the VPN, DO NOT STORE the torrents on the server... (Also.. this may not be the best idea either if the business proactively monitors their network, as it is still illegal and if they see such actions you can be terminated for it, just its a lot less likely) It is called "Plausible Deniability", at least when not storing the information on the server they can claim to have no idea what you are doing. By blatantly storing illegal data in plain site on you server it gives them no way to say "I had no idea it was there" because it is their server. Using a little bit of common sense will save you a lot of stress in the future.
My 2 cents.
That was my point: are there any?
@Damian Yes but I haven't known many who take part in it.
@Damian
I assume so, whats your point?
@spycrab101 your busted right there!
@24khost
Do you spy on customers?
We don't use a bot. If we notice that your using up your space really quickly and meeting your bandwidth really quickly we start to investigate.
There are things that trigger us to look at things.
@24khost
Do you let your customer know your staff is going to log onto his vps to start the investigation?
I hope you read my above response... cause if it was an OpenVZ container, FOR THE SECOND TIME, they do NOT have to log into your server to see your data.
We will not be your lawyer for $1/month.
@KuJoe: what if I pay you in Trident Layers?
This... it's quite simple, lets say the customer is CID # 103 on the server.
1) Administrator logs into the main server hosting all the OpenVz containers
2) types 'vzctl enter 103'
3) they are now inside the VPS as a root user, any commands/etc executed will not be stored in the root user's bash history, etc.
And even if they don't even use vzctl enter ### they can simply run a find command on /vz/private/103
Since all the containers files are listed right there.
Xen and KVM are a lil harder to just 'check out', since they often use disk images, but they can still be mounted and viewed all the same. Doesn't mean the provider won't have the means to investigate a possible abuse.
@KuJoe
Can you please complete my refund? I don't understand why you have refunded me $1. I did not pay monthly.
Wow, automatic ban for sabnzbd? That doesn't really cause any load, or dmca-like issues to the provider. It does seem a bit weird.
Therefore...
@kbeezie
I never knew this. I'm surprised it's been designed that way. Thanks for the info.
@averell
I wasn't banned but the server was shutdown unexpectedly shut down without any reason until I got an email about illegal content being found.
I assumed that sabnzbd was the trigger since the bot mentioned it in the "illegal content" found.
Our aup:
@spycrab101 We do not inform them, and do not need to as they have agreed to the terms of service.
If you are concerned about privacy there are a couple of things you can do:
Buy from hosters in countries with better privacy laws that will protect your privacy better
If you can't do 1, be sure to read the TOS!!
Research the host before you buy from them. Some providers have heavily violated the privacy of their clients in the past and are now avoided by some/many people.
@gsrdgrdghd
I plan to do all of the above. I might make another thread about what providers do actually respect privacy since this one seems to be a bit of a mess.