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AlphaSSL certificates bought from hostmybytes revoked

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  • NeoXiDNeoXiD Member
    edited September 2015

    @Fidde said:
    I didn't mind the extra cost because I could reissue certs for the same CN instead of using my SHA1-wildcard cert with StartSSL. If only you could revoke your Class2-certs or choose to issue them for only 1 year. I can barely issue and certs for any of my domains because there is already a cert for the CN.

    I struggled with that aswell when I used StartSSL in the past. But then I came up with an idea which worked nicely. When requesting a certificate, do it like that:

    1) Add example.com
    2) Add crtXXX.example.com as a subdomain, XXX can be an increasing number, random hex string or whatever (gonna be the CN)
    3) Now add your needed domains/subdomains

    The admins confirmed me that they are perfectly fine with that. That way you can easily create new certificates without CN clashes. And the CN doesn't really matter anyways, so nothing speaks against using that technique. Examples:

    1. Certificate: CN=crt001.example.com, SAN=example.com,banana.example.com

    2. Certificate: CN=crt002.example.com, SAN=example.com,banana.example.com,papaya.example.com

    ...

    Thanked by 1Fidde
  • @NeoXiD wait you can add subdomains with free startssl cert? o_o

  • NihimNihim Member
    edited September 2015

    @asf any idea what the price is without the discount? for when renewing?

    just saw the big ass 80% discount marker on top. So ~55 for renewing.

  • @4n0nx said:
    NeoXiD wait you can add subdomains with free startssl cert? o_o

    Fidde mentioned Class 2, my answer was related to that. Sorry to disappoint you. If you trust those guys though, the money is well worth it - SMIME cert, Code Signing cert, unlimited SAN/wildcard... Nowhere as cheap as they offer and no risk of revocation like when using shady AlphaSSL resellers or such.

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • @NeoXiD o soz my comp is stuttering because i am converting something :D thx

  • @Nihim single domain one ~23.5EUR and wildcard ~59EUR...

  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 2015

    How is Certum compared to Comodo? Same same but different?

  • FiddeFidde Member
    edited September 2015

    @NeoXiD said:
    ...

    I always tried with *.domain as the main CN and that's why I thought I didn't work. Thanks for sharing! :)

    Seems like a really stupid restriction (and adds huge confusion) then as the only difference is that the main CN says cert001...

    Maybe going to stop paying Singlehop and only use StartSSL instead, ~$300 saved per year could be used for something more fun :) AlphaSSL (Globalsign) does however look nicer when inspecting the cert than "StartSSL" from "Israel" ;) for $300 I could register a business and buy a EV :D Just cause it looks so sexy :D

    EDIT: Another thing is that your personal info is present in StartSSL certs, the name, City and Email used for verification, gosh let's hope Letsencrypt fixes all my insignificant problems or makes other CA's lower their prices :P

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • ClouviderClouvider Member, Patron Provider
    edited September 2015

    @netomx said:
    Can you change something from there, or it is task from the CA?

    That's mostly server configuration, but even if fixed Chrome will keep flagging the site's connection as not fully secure since the root certificate is weak (yellow warning triangle next to the address bar).

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • @Fidde said:
    EDIT: Another thing is that your personal info is present in StartSSL certs, the name, City and Email used for verification, gosh let's hope Letsencrypt fixes all my insignificant problems or makes other CA's lower their prices :P

    I remember one time my name showed up in the cert, but not anymore, at least not for any of my current startssl certs.

  • @TheOnlyDK said:
    I remember one time my name showed up in the cert, but not anymore, at least not for any of my current startssl certs.

    Class 1 only contains email(?) and CN as far as I know but the Class 2 I issued today contains name, location and email.

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • Yea email & CN it is.

  • TheOnlyDKTheOnlyDK Member
    edited September 2015

    @Fidde said:
    Class 1 only contains email(?) and CN as far as I know but the Class 2 I issued today contains name, location and email.

    I never got class 2, not sure about that part. Back in the days class 1 had some personal info in there but later it was gone and I was using that for my personal domain until recently got a free wildcard ssl. Will see how that goes, might need to go back for the "swiss army knife".

  • epilif09epilif09 Member
    edited September 2015

    Got 1 revoked as well. It was from Sync Serve. Already asked for a refund...
    I'm thanking myself to have not setup the "Strict-Transport-Security'.

    Any of you tried or could get the AlphaSSL seal working on your page? It never worked to me.

    Thanked by 14n0nx
  • @Clouvider said:
    That's mostly server configuration, but even if fixed Chrome will keep flagging the site's connection as not fully secure since the root certificate is weak (yellow warning triangle next to the address bar).

    Can you share a URL which has this problem? Because the nazwa.pl website itself is using a Certum certificate and the bar looks very green if you ask me, on latest Chrome.

    Thanked by 2netomx asf
  • @MrGeneral said:

    That was actually the business before SingleHop started revoking all the certificates out of their network (as they always said they would).

    Thanked by 1MikePT
  • @jeromeza said:
    I got a refund for mine.

    Apparently they can't offer these $4.99 wildcards any more. What are my options for wildcard SSL that don't cost an arm and a leg?

    I can do Comodo PositiveSSL Wildcard for $49.99 and I hope I am viewed as trustworthy
    https://hostigation.com/billing/cart.php?a=add&pid=98

    Thanked by 24n0nx Amitz
  • @Nihim said:
    TheOnlyDK so you can do any of the alpha certs except the wildcard or with the wildcard but for that 140 price?

    As for the comodo wild cert is it one cert that has both domains listed I take it instead of two certs one for each domain correct?

    That's correct, one cert for 2 domains.

    Thanked by 1Nihim
  • miTgiB said: I hope I am viewed as trustworthy

    Ha! Understatement! :-)

  • @elgs said:
    rm_ thanks for recommending WoSign. However, I still need some wildcard certs, for two reasons:
    1. I have a lot of machine to deploy, 10 is not enough, also deploying different certs and keys is too troublesome;
    2. Honestly, I don't trust a Chinese provider;

    So do you have any other recommendation for a more proper provider? I used to buy from SSLS, their cheapest is around $80 per year.

    Who said ssls.com sells AlphaSSL certiicate? I recently checked and it is not selling. If you want AlphaSSL wildcard certificate then after hostmybytes.com, http://www.cheapsslcouponcode.com/store/alphassl.com will be the best option to get highest discount price for aphassl products.

  • I'm not sure what to think :o

    Was all the revoked certificates an error :o

    Thanked by 3perennate 4n0nx msg7086
  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 2015

    miTgiB said: I can do Comodo PositiveSSL Wildcard for $49.99 and I hope I am viewed as trustworthy https://hostigation.com/billing/cart.php?a=add&pid=98

    A short question:
    Does this certificate include 2 (like the cheapsslshop.com offer) or 1 domains for wildcard SSL? I really like your 3-year price!

    //Edit: Who are these cheapsslshop.com guys anyway? Private Whois, no company information on their site... Normally not my cup of tea...

  • Amitz said: A short question:

    Does this certificate include 2 (like the cheapsslshop.com offer) or 1 domains for wildcard SSL? I really like your 3-year price!

    Just a single domain, but there are other comodo positive SSL certs that will work for 3 domains

  • @miTgiB said:

    >

    How much are those or are they not part of your portfolio?

  • Amitz said: How much are those or are they not part of your portfolio?

    The multi-domain costs me more than I can offer the wildcard, and the multi-domain wildcard is more than 3x more costly.

    There is no bargaining room while offering legit certs unfortunatly :(

    Thanked by 2Amitz Francisco
  • AmitzAmitz Member
    edited September 2015

    @miTgiB said:
    There is no bargaining room while offering legit certs unfortunatly :(

    That's why I tend to be more than reluctant with offers like the cheapsslshop.com one above. Something smells wrong about all this. I guess I will order one of your Wildcard SSLs then! Just for final clarification (I never dealt with Wildcard SSLs) - the subdomains can be hosted on different servers than the domain itself, right?

  • zeitgeistzeitgeist Member
    edited September 2015

    @Amitz said:
    //Edit: Who are these cheapsslshop.com guys anyway? Private Whois, no company information on their site... Normally not my cup of tea...

    Natural curiosity... so here is what I found:

    There is a domain thesslshop.com which redirects to cheapsslshop.com. While thesslshop.com also uses private whois and DNS servers from name.com, its A record points to another direction: 108.168.230.142. That's from a Softlayer customer IP block. According to rwhois, Softlayer identifies the customer as ClickSSL.

    Could it be this https://www.clickssl.com/?

    Analyzing the HTTP sources of clickssl.com and cheapsslshop.com reveals some interesting similarities.

    • both sites use an identical piece of inline JS code to handle the mobile navbar.

    • both sites have the same JS tracking code at the end of each page. One from Google, and at the very end of each page source, one from StatCounter.

    ClickSSL has the following contact address:

    40 E Main Street, Suite 1002, Newark, DE 19711, US

    Registrant of ClickSSL.com is a typical, non-descriptive Delaware company called MozeWeb LLC:

    http://www.delwarecorporates.com/corp/82358.html

    According to Linkedin, some of the "people" who work at ClickSSL:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/abelwike
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophieperrone
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/sslcertificate
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaydan

    I don't have the time to look into the list of employees; fortunately someone already did: http://lockboxx.blogspot.ch/2014_07_01_archive.html

    Anyhow, it's pretty clear that there is a connection between cheapsslshop.com and clickssl.com. One more thing. The Softlayer customer "ClickSSL" has the IP block 108.168.230.140 to 108.168.230.143. Let's see where 108.168.230.140 leads us to:

    http://108.168.230.140 -> https://my.getanssl.com/

    Who is the registrant of getanssl.com?

    Defaultech Limited, Vas. Sofias and Mesogeion 2, Athens, 11527, Greece

    According to http://www.getanssl.com, Defaultech Ltd's contact address is actually in Cyprus:

    Defaultech Limited, 25th March 7, Nicosia, Cyprus

    This, btw, is the address of a tax advisor who helps establish companies in Cyprus (http://www.cytax.eu/).

    A company affiliated with Defaultech (and with the same phone number) who frequently appears in this context is:

    ez4u, Ioanni Psihari 29, Heraklion, Crete 71305, Greece

    Website: http://www.ez4u.gr (fwiw they have a link to http://www.getanssl.com on their page).

    It's all circumstantial, of course, but it appears that these are the folks who are behind cheapsslshop.com, clickssl.com & co, and for whatever reasons, they don't want to show their affiliation.

  • @zeitgeist said:

    Someone's got quite a lot of time on their hands. ;)

    Thanked by 1netomx
  • Remind me everyone week not to piss you off.

    zeitgeist said: Natural curiosity... so here is what I found:There is a domain thesslshop.com which redirects to cheapsslshop.com. While thesslshop.com also uses private whois and DNS servers from name.com, its A record points at another direction: 108.168.230.142. That's from a Softlayer customer IP block. According to rwhois, Softlayer identifies the customer as ClickSSL.

  • Thank you for the research, @zeitgeist!

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