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DireVPS £7.50/y plan - I bought it but can't install LAMP so what's it good for?
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DireVPS £7.50/y plan - I bought it but can't install LAMP so what's it good for?

Specs are: £7.50/y - 512MB RAM, 128MB Swap, 25GB Disk, 250GB transfer, Two IPv6 addresses and 1 IPv4, CPU capped to 2 x 1600MHz

I can't seem to install all the components for a LAMP stack so my plan to run a little website is scuppered. So now that I have it, what is a plan like this suitable for?

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  • LAMP components, in case of major Linux distributions are installed via package manager (yum, apt etc).

    Is there no system administrator able to install those via command-line? System looks fine for LAMP.

  • That's what I thought when I signed up. I am installing LAMP using apt. I posted here about the problems: http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/29371/direvps-server-constant-fatal-failed-to-fork#latest Seems that the problem is a lack of sufficient available resources.

  • wychwych Member

    Raise a ticket with them about your issues.

    You also could have continued your previous thread - http://lowendtalk.com/discussion/29371/direvps-server-constant-fatal-failed-to-fork

  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited June 2014

    apache in it's default config likes eating memory. Consider using nginx instead. Also the mysql server config might need tuning.

    When using apache i like having at least 1GB of memory. More is better.

    Thanked by 1adrianlambert
  • Thanks wych, I'm not expecting support for £7.50 per year but I did submit a ticket yesterday anyway. In my post here I'm asking what those specs are good for whereas in the other topic I'm asking for help with the failed to fork issue. I think they are sufficiently different issues despite being about the same plan. Do you dissagree?

  • berkayberkay Member

    Could it be an OS or template issue? Cause I think 512 MB RAM is more than enough for a non-heavily used LAMP stack.

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  • I did reinstall the server OS and the problems are consistent.

  • So in answer to my question this server should in fact be fine for a lamp stack. Thanks All.

  • rds100rds100 Member

    It could run the lamp stack, but not with the default configurations of the packages (mysql and apache).

    Thanked by 1adrianlambert
  • iceTwyiceTwy Member

    @rds100 said:
    apache in it's default config likes eating memory. Consider using nginx instead. Also the mysql server config might need tuning.

    When using apache i like having at least 1GB of memory. More is better.

    Apache sure is hungry when it comes to RAM, but OP shouldn't be running into a problem when installing it for the sole reason of having 512MB RAM. There's no reason the default Apache configuration can't run with that much RAM on a test installation.

    Anyway, yes, Nginx is the way to go.

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  • Thanks rds100. OK wych you are right. I shouldn't have split the topic!

  • wychwych Member

    @adrianlambert said:
    Thanks wych, I'm not expecting support for £7.50 per year but I did submit a ticket yesterday anyway. In my post here I'm asking what those specs are good for whereas in the other topic I'm asking for help with the failed to fork issue. I think they are sufficiently different issues despite being about the same plan. Do you dissagree?

    Message them about the error you got with the bean counter. That's host node config related, something you can't fix.

    Dont message them saying can't fork due to error. Give them the details you gave in that thread.

    That box should be able to hold a simple lamp stack.

    Thanked by 1adrianlambert
  • I agree, for low resources systems Apache and MySQL in default configuration are resource gobblers.

    However, I doubt that the mentioned error should occur. Severe resource restriction in effect. Let's know what provider will respond.

    Good luck!

  • rds100rds100 Member
    edited June 2014

    So what's currently running on the VPS? Can you show us a process list? ps axuww

  • yes iceTwy using apt I've installed webmin and am trying to install LAMP but can't get it to install without problems relating to failed to fork errors

  • @rds100 said:
    So what's currently running on the VPS? Can you show us a process list? ps axuww

    root 1 0.0 0.3 24148 1984 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 init
    root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [kthreadd/4880]
    root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [khelper/4880]
    101 152 0.0 0.2 23892 1116 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 dbus-daemon --system --fork --activation=upstart
    root 256 0.0 0.1 15140 576 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
    root 262 0.0 0.1 19064 892 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 cron
    syslog 377 0.0 0.1 12704 776 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
    root 418 0.0 0.1 12704 700 tty1 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 console
    root 420 0.0 0.1 12704 704 tty2 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root 1952 0.0 0.2 74180 1200 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1955 0.0 0.1 73912 528 ? S Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1958 0.0 0.3 549664 1912 ? Sl Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    root 3791 0.0 0.1 60588 868 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 php-fpm: master process (/etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf)
    www-data 3792 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3793 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3794 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3795 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    root 5851 0.0 0.6 83564 3412 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
    root 18687 0.0 0.4 49988 2548 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
    root 22093 0.0 0.0 17184 452 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
    root 22095 0.0 0.1 21708 752 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
    root 24922 0.2 0.6 71312 3532 ? Ss 13:20 0:00 sshd: adrian [priv]
    adrian 24934 0.0 0.3 71312 1788 ? S 13:20 0:00 sshd: [email protected]/0
    adrian 24935 0.0 0.4 19628 2120 pts/0 Ss 13:20 0:00 -bash
    root 24945 0.5 0.3 37836 1832 pts/0 S+ 13:20 0:00 sudo ps axuww
    root 24946 0.0 0.2 16828 1248 pts/0 R+ 13:20 0:00 ps axuww

  • wychwych Member

    Nice formatting.

  • rds100rds100 Member

    use < pre > pasted text < /pre > to make it more readable, please

  • @wych said:

    Nice formatting.

    root 1 0.0 0.3 24148 1984 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 init
    root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [kthreadd/4880]
    root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [khelper/4880]
    101 152 0.0 0.2 23892 1116 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 dbus-daemon --system --fork --activation=upstart
    root 256 0.0 0.1 15140 576 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
    root 262 0.0 0.1 19064 892 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 cron
    syslog 377 0.0 0.1 12704 776 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
    root 418 0.0 0.1 12704 700 tty1 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 console
    root 420 0.0 0.1 12704 704 tty2 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root 1952 0.0 0.2 74180 1200 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1955 0.0 0.1 73912 528 ? S Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1958 0.0 0.3 549664 1912 ? Sl Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    root 3791 0.0 0.1 60588 868 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 php-fpm: master process (/etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf)
    www-data 3792 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3793 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3794 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3795 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    root 5851 0.0 0.6 83564 3412 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
    root 18687 0.0 0.4 49988 2548 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
    root 22093 0.0 0.0 17184 452 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
    root 22095 0.0 0.1 21708 752 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
    root 24922 0.2 0.6 71312 3532 ? Ss 13:20 0:00 sshd: adrian [priv]
    adrian 24934 0.0 0.3 71312 1788 ? S 13:20 0:00 sshd: [email protected]/0
    adrian 24935 0.0 0.4 19628 2120 pts/0 Ss 13:20 0:00 -bash
    root 24945 0.5 0.3 37836 1832 pts/0 S+ 13:20 0:00 sudo ps axuww
    root 24946 0.0 0.2 16828 1248 pts/0 R+ 13:20 0:00 ps axuww>

  • sorry, can't figure formatting out.

  • < pre > root 1 0.0 0.3 24148 1984 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 init
    root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [kthreadd/4880]
    root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun17 0:00 [khelper/4880]
    101 152 0.0 0.2 23892 1116 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 dbus-daemon --system --fork --activation=upstart
    root 256 0.0 0.1 15140 576 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
    root 262 0.0 0.1 19064 892 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 cron
    syslog 377 0.0 0.1 12704 776 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
    root 418 0.0 0.1 12704 700 tty1 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 console
    root 420 0.0 0.1 12704 704 tty2 Ss+ Jun17 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root 1952 0.0 0.2 74180 1200 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1955 0.0 0.1 73912 528 ? S Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data 1958 0.0 0.3 549664 1912 ? Sl Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    root 3791 0.0 0.1 60588 868 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 php-fpm: master process (/etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf)
    www-data 3792 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3793 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3794 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    www-data 3795 0.0 0.0 60588 432 ? S Jun17 0:00 php-fpm: pool www
    root 5851 0.0 0.6 83564 3412 ? Ss Jun17 0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
    root 18687 0.0 0.4 49988 2548 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
    root 22093 0.0 0.0 17184 452 ? S Jun17 0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
    root 22095 0.0 0.1 21708 752 ? Ss Jun17 0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
    root 24922 0.2 0.6 71312 3532 ? Ss 13:20 0:00 sshd: adrian [priv]
    adrian 24934 0.0 0.3 71312 1788 ? S 13:20 0:00 sshd: [email protected]/0
    adrian 24935 0.0 0.4 19628 2120 pts/0 Ss 13:20 0:00 -bash
    root 24945 0.5 0.3 37836 1832 pts/0 S+ 13:20 0:00 sudo ps axuww
    root 24946 0.0 0.2 16828 1248 pts/0 R+ 13:20 0:00 ps axuww> < /pre >

  • adrianlambertadrianlambert Member
    edited June 2014

    @rds100 said:
    use < pre > pasted text < /pre > to make it more readable, please

    didn't seem to work!

  • rds100rds100 Member

    Ok, remove the space between "<" and "pre" and ">"

  •  root         1  0.0  0.3  24148  1984 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 init
    root         2  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 [kthreadd/4880]
    root         3  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 [khelper/4880]
    101        152  0.0  0.2  23892  1116 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 dbus-daemon --system --fork --activation=upstart
    root       256  0.0  0.1  15140   576 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 upstart-socket-bridge --daemon
    root       262  0.0  0.1  19064   892 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 cron
    syslog     377  0.0  0.1  12704   776 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 /sbin/syslogd -u syslog
    root       418  0.0  0.1  12704   700 tty1     Ss+  Jun17   0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 console
    root       420  0.0  0.1  12704   704 tty2     Ss+  Jun17   0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
    root      1952  0.0  0.2  74180  1200 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data  1955  0.0  0.1  73912   528 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    www-data  1958  0.0  0.3 549664  1912 ?        Sl   Jun17   0:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
    root      3791  0.0  0.1  60588   868 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:01 php-fpm: master process (/etc/php5/fpm/php-fpm.conf)      
    www-data  3792  0.0  0.0  60588   432 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 php-fpm: pool www                                         
    www-data  3793  0.0  0.0  60588   432 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 php-fpm: pool www                                         
    www-data  3794  0.0  0.0  60588   432 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 php-fpm: pool www                                         
    www-data  3795  0.0  0.0  60588   432 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 php-fpm: pool www                                         
    root      5851  0.0  0.6  83564  3412 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:01 /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf
    root     18687  0.0  0.4  49988  2548 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
    root     22093  0.0  0.0  17184   452 ?        S    Jun17   0:00 upstart-udev-bridge --daemon
    root     22095  0.0  0.1  21708   752 ?        Ss   Jun17   0:00 /sbin/udevd --daemon
    root     24922  0.2  0.6  71312  3532 ?        Ss   13:20   0:00 sshd: adrian [priv] 
    adrian   24934  0.0  0.3  71312  1788 ?        S    13:20   0:00 sshd: [email protected]/0  
    adrian   24935  0.0  0.4  19628  2120 pts/0    Ss   13:20   0:00 -bash
    root     24945  0.5  0.3  37836  1832 pts/0    S+   13:20   0:00 sudo ps axuww
    root     24946  0.0  0.2  16828  1248 pts/0    R+   13:20   0:00 ps axuww>  
  • LESLES Member

    webmin installed?

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  • @LES said:
    webmin installed?

    yes

  • @rds100 said:
    Ok, remove the space between "<" and "pre" and ">"

    Yep, realised just after! Thanks. And previewing is a good idea too!!

  • rds100rds100 Member

    And what does "top" show, especially for the first few lines that show the memory usage?

    Also these "getty" processes shouldn't be there, the OS template is stupid.

  • jarjar Provider
    edited June 2014

    There is no good reason why 512mb would not install a LAMP stack. I install apache and MySQL on 512mb or less at least once a week. In their default configuration. If it's a fresh OS install and the system is clean, the host needs to address this.

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