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@William - if you can offer IPv6 (even thru Austria) then I'm in - sorry but for us IPv6 is a must.Maybe you can create BGP tunnel to London since one of the cables has the end there http://www.farice.is/services/
@William - by the way, any plans with Dublin? It would be nice to have especially that Amazon and soon HP cloud are here. There is a good DC http://www.citadel100.com/ in National Digital Park in West Dublin
German likely has a better ping since the main Upstream of our IS DC does not peer in London directly but has the core in Frankfurt (German Vodafone corporation).
We'll see - i have no server yet to do traceroutes outgoing from Iceland.
No, since traffic is extremely overpriced, i wanted something on Manx, but the ISPs never replied
@William - you can rent dark fibers from http://www.seafibrenetworks.com/our-networks/celtixconnect.htm and operate your own Ireland-UK connectivity
They even had mailing campaign 
CItadel100 is not so bad, maybe worth ask for qoute
I definitely do have to agree on this. In the same sense, it wouldn't make sense to say "why can't I host warez in Iceland?". If you care about legality, porn appears to be just as illegal there as warez is here (according to what William just mentioned). If you don't care about legality, but care about morality instead, you have the exact same situation as with warez - some consider it morally acceptable, some don't, and it generally depends on culture as well. If you don't care about either, but only about common-law-esque "does anyone get hurt by it in some way", even then points could be brought up regarding porn that may make that discussion rather complicated, regardless of whether I would personally agree on those points.
Sure, we start a DC in Ireland... NOT
Private proxies/vpn allowed?
Your logic would also justify the ban on blasphemous cartoons in the Middle East among other bans condemned by the bastions of free speech.
It would be very interesting how @William and @joepie91 define free speech. Or is free speech only meant by leaked data?
On the law site I think that Iceland isn't different to Austria/Germany, but the courts won't be always on the site of big companies like here in Germany. How does Iceland handles hate speech? // What's with seizure / raid as it was with piratebay and prq in 2006(?) what wasn't that legally. + What will Edis do, if police wants the whole server? It's a shared envoiment... all other customers are owned, too
For example: Any Nazi content will be shut down in Iceland, too I think... (Of course was only an example) - what's about trackers? Actually I'm hosting an TPB Proxy in NL, don't think it is secure there, would it be in Iceland?
As @joepie91 already said, the main problem is, the austrian based company. If someone wants to shut down my content he can go to an austrian court and get a court decision... no need of iceland I think. And the second bigger issue... DDoS...
No pron?! Bah, Im gonna make my own Iceland with pron.... abd hookers!
Well, forget the pron
I don't define anything, the Icelandic law does.
Legal within certain restrictions.
That was Sweden, not Iceland.
Boot another one up.
Not illegal.
Not illegal.
No, our law does not work like this.
DDoS is always an issue, no matter where.....
I never said I agreed with said bans. In fact, I don't agree with both the warez and porn bans, I am just pointing out they do not substantially differ.
I consider free speech to be free speech (quite literally) and free information (literally), pretty much. Free speech does not physically harm someone or his property (I am not including alleged 'mental harm' from 'nasty things being said'). That rule of thumb generally works pretty well.
Your personal opinion on current politicians, however offensive as it may be? Free speech.
Disagreement with the existence of the holocaust? Free speech.
Books? Free speech.
A release of leaked data that belongs to an allegedly 'people-owned' entity such as a government (in most places)? Information, and as such free speech.
A release of credit card numbers and addresses of random people that aren't really involved in the situation in which they were leaked? Nothing to do with free speech.
Warez? Unless you're talking about books or video tutorials or anything that was made with the intention to improve knowledge / explicit expression of opinions, generally doesn't fall under free speech.
Latest blockbusters? Definitely doesn't fall under free speech.
Porn movies? No free speech thing either.
Judging from responses to what I said previously, I sadly apparently have to include this: my list above does not imply any judgment on any of the above being either moral or immoral. I'm simply elaborating on what 'free speech' consists of, at least to me.
I'd be very curious to know how Austrian law handles cases like these.
I know, but we know sweden as a very liberally countrey and it happened there... why not in Iceland, too?
You said exactly that, when I asked you the last time :P
Of course... but in Iceland is bandwith expensive and maybe these DCs haven't the capazitive not to be completely offline...
@joepie91: Nice opinion about this issue
- ever problems with shutted down servers?
What about nazi hate speech written around big boobs?
8D
everything around big boobs are great... including ANOTHER boobies
Related. Also NSFW
we said BIG BOOBS!
btw, neat! haha
Surprisingly, no. I do read the TOS of hosts so I know what is acceptable at what hosts of course - but I do run some things that may spark controversy (AnonNews.org, for example). If anything, it's shut down for getting DDoSed (it seems anything that starts with anon* is a popular target for HackForums skids that want to be able to claim they 'took down Anon', several other sites have been having the same issue). I do intend to start a project in the near future that may turn out more controversial than that (not malicious, but in terms of free speech), so that is where my interest in an Iceland-based VPS mostly comes from.
Yeah okay, except that time with Dynadot suspending my domain, but that's a whole different story and enough reason for me to never ever go back to Dynadot again. Haven't had any issues since I moved away from them.
I think your applications of free speech are contradictory, but I don't want to derail William's thread anymore.
I'd like to know why that's how you feel. If you don't want to derail the thread any further, feel free to PM.
You're not by any chance hosting it with Edis in Sweden, are you?
Why do you have PRQ whois in the domain? what are you afraid of? DDos'ing people maybe?
OVH apparently.
No and yes, while Sweden has SOME liberal laws it is technically a highly monitored police state, same with Norway.
Pretty much like the USA also.
Again, no:
Inside the EU - Yes.
Inside the EEA/Outside the EU - No.
While we have treatys with the EU countries for data exchange and similar, we do not have them with Iceland (except for a double taxation thing).
The DC has basic protection and hardware for it in place and is already used to DDoS, so not much of an issue.
They also have Multiple 10G uplinks.
I am by law not allowed to give law advice (since i need to be lawyer for this and then charge a fee) but basically like this:
If the country is EU and asks for customer data we can ignore the request unless it was cosigned and/or justified by a court in Austria (in some cases an acknowledgement is enough too, for example if it originates from Germany) - If it is EEA/Outside the EU we can ignore it also*, they would need to get the same acknowledgement or cosignation in Austria too but simply don't get it (or not fast) as we have no exchange treatys with them (this EXCLUDES tax crimes since we have some agreements with some countries about this and Nazi crimes since there is a special law for it).
This all depends how effective our law enforcement works and how interested they are in cooperation, a russian court order for some dissident site is likely to get Ignored by our LEOs since they have no use for it - An Israeli court order for some Nazi crimes page on the other hand is likely not.
Since this process will take at LEAST months to get it through our complicated court systems you are likely not customer anymore or informed about them already before it is ever valid - Just switch location or ISP and start the same game again.
*: Excluding French and UK overseas territorys which are not fully independent (Mayotte, Bermuda for example, Bahamas for example not)
Can i set up a PPTP VPN on the VRS Micro package?
No, no VPN at all.
@William - are you going to add HK preorder today?
Ah yes, just spotted that sorry, so i need to go for a KVM Micro i guess
Edit: Or is that no VPN in iceland?
@Deor: Yes, looks like no VPN there...
No, VRS doesn't support VPN at all
Likely.