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Unbeatable Ramnode - So Much Happy :)

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  • @darkshire said:

    He's a busy man, tickets mark something to do so he can look at it later, I wouldn't expect him to look at it RIGHT NOW, he's got other stuff to handle.

    I've had many RamNode's, they've all been wonderful! The network, the I/O and the support are great!

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  • darkshire said: why send in a ticket ? you already read the issue here and replied about it, why not just correct it ?

    And he does not want to use LET as his support desk, neither does he know who iKeyZ is in his client list.

    Currently a ramnode customer, more than satisfied.

  • Nick_ANick_A Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @darkshire said:

    I want to compare his specific VPSs to the host node, etc. I'm not sure why you have a problem with a simple request...

  • Nice i/o numbers - but my DotVPS box is more than adequate for its purpose!

    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.90909 s, 562 MB/s

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  • Edited ironhide's messages and removed affiliate links

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  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    I think it is a given, people cant compete with Ramnode in terms of sequential write IO. Congratz @Nick_A

    Out of interest, what is the random read speed as that is generally the real life performance indicator? may take one of the KVM's as a DB box.

  • @AnthonySmith If I zip 1GB web files data, can it test random io?

  • I just picked up a Ramnode VPS today to use as a VPN and I have to say I am happy so far. The network speeds seem good and the IO is great.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @jcaleb said:
    AnthonySmith If I zip 1GB web files data, can it test random io?

    For random write speed try:

    dd if=/dev/urandom of=test bs=64k count=10000; sync;
    

    Then read the random data

    dd if=test of=/dev/null
    

    Probably better ways but that will give an accurate enough result of real world use, I will probably just get a KVM anyway I need something off my own infrastructure for a project.

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  • IOPing was crazy good on my RamNodes when I checked a few months ago.

    But really, RamNode's not just a performance host. It's the sum of everything @Nick_A puts into his company that makes it so great to be a customer. If I was a competitor, I'd be benchmarking (business-wise) the hell out of RamNode.

  • @AnthonySmith said:
    For random write speed try:
    dd if=/dev/urandom of=test bs=64k count=10000; sync;

    RamNode IO in their NL location.

    root@db-host: dd if=/dev/urandom of=test bs=64k count=10000; sync;
    10000+0 records in
    10000+0 records out
    655360000 bytes (655 MB) copied, 54.2678 s, 12.1 MB/s

  • I've had a number of VPSes with Ramnode for a while, absolutely zero issues with I/O. It's unicorn level stuff.

  • Nick_ANick_A Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    All I can say is thanks again guys! We are proud of the product we put out and we will continue striving to make it better.

  • @Nick_A said:
    All I can say is thanks again guys! We are proud of the product we put out and we will continue striving to make it better.

    Any plans for SG/HK location?

  • Nick_ANick_A Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    Not at this time.

  • I will be interested if they launch the Cloud Based VM.

  • geogeo Member
    edited January 2014

    A little jealous of the above

    Results on a SEACKVME5-1

    $ dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 2.71462 s, 396 MB/s
    

    Guess I got a busy node.

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran

    AnthonySmith said: I think it is a given, people cant compete with Ramnode in terms of sequential write IO

    dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.0277 s, 1.0 GB/s
    
  • Maounique said: dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf iotest 16384+0 records in 16384+0 records out 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.0277 s, 1.0 GB/s

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited January 2014

    That was an amendment of "cant compete" part.
    It depends if that is useful or gives value to customers, so the "wish to compete" is more like it.
    IMO anything above 300 should do well enough for most applications.
    Sure, for a very busy database and low memory (cant cache in memory) a IOPS beast is needed, but, otherwise, I dont see a reason why so much sequential writing is needed apart from editing bluray movies on a beast computer at home.
    I hate this test, it increases costs and prices for no really useful purpose. Sure, if you get xx MBs, then that is a SIGN of a possible problem, but 100 MB/s are already enough for almost everything, 300 should really be enough for all usual apps on a VPS. Besides, with 2 GB RAM cache in the controller, it does not really matter what disks are there, the "test" will still show 1+ GB, perhaps even 2+.

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  • Mao - It's not just the sequential write speed of RamNode, its the consistency of service overall that earns my respect. It's the same kind of respect that Prometeus gets from the community. As a provider you have it or you don't. I think you would agree that disk speed alone does not get this kind of positive response, from THIS community.

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    @Maounique said:

    Ramnode was faster.

    Sequential io has NOTHING to do with real world performance though so you can take your xx MB is a sign of a problem and throw it in the bin.

    Most people only use less than 1 MB/s on avg in reality.

  • FrankZFrankZ Veteran
    edited January 2014

    @AnthonySmith - what about swap? Since most openVZ VPSes I have are very swapy wouldn't I/O matter in respect to swap? Would this not affect the performance of the VPS overall, up to a point?

    EDIT: At 30MB/s it might not matter, but at 1MB/s could the same be said?

  • AnthonySmithAnthonySmith Member, Patron Provider

    The result of a cached sequential IO test has almost zero bearing performance of your swappiness, and with OpenVZ you are not truly swapping to disk anyway.

    Sure 1MB/s could indicate an issue, but the absolute truth is most people dont even need that.

    here is a snapshot sorted by top writers on a p/second basis on a busy node:

    45 domains, 45 active, 5 running, 40 sleeping, 0 paused, 0 inactive D:0 O:0 X:0
    CPU: 35.4%  Mem: 112927 MB (111624 MB by guests)
    
       ID S RDBY WRBY RDRQ WRRQ DOMAIN       DEVICE
      562 S    0  20K    0    5 vm722        xvda1
     1055 S    0  24K    0    2 vm933        sda1
     1165 S    0  24K    0    2 vm967        sda1
        4 S    0    0    0    0 vm638        sda1
     1115 S    0    0    0    0 vm641        sda1
      793 S    0    0    0    0 vm642        sda1
      556 S    0    0    0    0 vm648        sda1
       57 S    0    0    0    0 vm650        sda1
     1072 R    0    0    0    0 vm660        sda1
      784 S    0    0    0    0 vm667        sda1
     1005 S    0    0    0    0 vm670        sda1
      991 R    0    0    0    0 vm672        sda1
      833 S    0    0    0    0 vm676        sda1
     1077 R    0    0    0    0 vm683        sda1
      209 S    0    0    0    0 vm684        sda1
     1012 S    0    0    0    0 vm689        sda1
      758 S    0    0    0    0 vm690        sda1
      293 S    0    0    0    0 vm692        sda1
      516 S    0    0    0    0 vm726        sda1
      513 S    0    0    0    0 vm727        sda1
      514 S    0    0    0    0 vm728        sda1
     1166 S    0    0    0    0 vm729        sda1
     1065 R    0    0    0    0 vm752        sda1
     1026 S    0    0    0    0 vm799        sda1
     1023 S    0         0    0 vm807        sda1
     1113 S    0    0    0    0 vm905        sda1
     1008 S    0    0    0    0 vm912        sda1
     1112 S    0    0    0    0 vm931        sda1
     1114 S    0    0    0    0 vm958        sda1
     1125 S    0    0    0    0 vm963        sda1
     1173 S    0    0    0    0 vm969        sda1
        4 S    0    0    0    0 vm638        sda2
     1115 S    0    0    0    0 vm641        sda2
      793 S    0    0    0    0 vm642        sda2
      556 S    0    0    0    0 vm648        sda2
       57 S    0    0    0    0 vm650        sda2
     1072 R    0    0    0    0 vm660        sda2
      784 S    0    0    0    0 vm667        sda2
     1005 S    0    0    0    0 vm670        sda2
      991 R    0    0    0    0 vm672        sda2
      833 S    0    0    0    0 vm676        sda2
     1077 R    0    0    0    0 vm683        sda2
      209 S    0    0    0    0 vm684        sda2
     1012 S    0    0    0    0 vm689        sda2
      758 S    0    0    0    0 vm690        sda2
      293 S    0    0    0    0 vm692        sda2
      516 S    0    0    0    0 vm726        sda2
      513 S    0    0    0    0 vm727        sda2
    
    

    I am saying this from experience, what kills performance more than ANYTHING on a VPS node is volume of I/O R+W requests p/second, you can have someone with a terrible bloated wordpress install on a VPS that is perhaps only hitting a constant 5 - 10 MB/s while actually generation over 6000 disk I/O R+W requests p/second and that is what kills performance for everyone else.

  • @AnthonySmith - Thank you for taking the time to answer my question in such an detailed way. Very informative.

  • kyakykyaky Member
    edited January 2014

    so far I've purchased 5 KVM with their coupon in two days. very impressive performance and fast & helpful customer support. @Nick_A good job.

  • kyakykyaky Member
    edited January 2014

    @Maounique said:
    That was an amendment of "cant compete" part.
    It depends if that is useful or gives value to customers, so the "wish to compete" is more like it.
    IMO anything above 300 should do well enough for most applications.
    Sure, for a very busy database and low memory (cant cache in memory) a IOPS beast is needed, but, otherwise, I dont see a reason why so much sequential writing is needed apart from editing bluray movies on a beast computer at home.
    I hate this test, it increases costs and prices for no really useful purpose. Sure, if you get xx MBs, then that is a SIGN of a possible problem, but 100 MB/s are already enough for almost everything, 300 should really be enough for all usual apps on a VPS. Besides, with 2 GB RAM cache in the controller, it does not really matter what disks are there, the "test" will still show 1+ GB, perhaps even 2+.

    I hate testing too, but sometimes have to do some tests to advise people to buy. It's like I told my friends who hadn't tried prometeus, look! new offers from prometeus, oh look, SSD with 4 cores. After showed them the bench and I/O, they bought.

  • Nick_ANick_A Member, Top Host, Host Rep

    @geo said:
    A little jealous of the above

    Results on a SEACKVME5-1

    $ dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync && rm -rf iotest
    16384+0 records in
    16384+0 records out
    1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 2.71462 s, 396 MB/s
    

    Guess I got a busy node.

    That number is actually closer to what I'd expect on SSD-cached, so I think the others are just doing it at the right time of day :) We shoot for around 400-500MB/s for SSD-cached.

  • @Nick_A said:
    That number is actually closer to what I'd expect on SSD-cached, so I think the others are just doing it at the right time of day :) We shoot for around 400-500MB/s for SSD-cached.

    May I ask what raid and how many disks you use behind the SSD-cache?

  • MaouniqueMaounique Host Rep, Veteran
    edited January 2014

    AnthonySmith said: Ramnode was faster.

    Ask Erawan, we had 1.9, nobody beat that yet. Of course, that is irrelevant, no disk will do that in reality, it is only the cache being hit.

    Sequential io has NOTHING to do with real world performance though so you can take your xx MB is a sign of a problem and throw it in the bin.

    Yes and no, if it is way too low something is wrong on the node. I would expect decent constant performance from something over 100, 50 might work, of course, but I would take it as a sign something is/could be (in the future) wrong.

    Most people only use less than 1 MB/s on avg in reality.

    Frankly, most processes hitting 10 MB/s constantly are KVMs using swap as ram. It is rare that some syslog goes nuts at similar speeds, even less frequent for other processes. We had someone doing 200 MB/s on a KVM on SSD array sustained, that is almost certainly swap.

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