Unique small providers?

emgh

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
Oh, inleed is the subsidiary of Yelles... Makes sense

Yeah, so they say, but I think ’brand’ is a better word. I don’t think Inleed is s company at all. Yelles AB is the only company.

@emgh said:
@Saragoldfarb I think this is the CEO

https://www.allabolag.se/befattningshavare/jens-mats-olsson/-/11325673

Some holding company but nothing else. It’s Yelles AB. There’s no Inleed company IIRC

You're probably right. Never looked into them much. Someone on e recommended them to me for se/nu and I never looked back.

Glad to hear, people who use them are usually very happy from what I’ve seen.

I think I recall seeing a crazy slow YABS of their VPS though, and when I used their web hosting I recall it being slow, but they’re very cheap for Swedish standards so…

I think they're more registrar focussed so I don't blame them.

Use(d) wk.se as well. Is like using a registrar from 1999 but it work(ed) fine. Good pricing. They recently redeveloped site/backend... Dunno.. I mean, I don't care much for the registrar if basics work, registry (Internetstiftelsen) is superb.

YES, IIS is the shit. They’ve helped me get the transfer code to a domain from a shit provider (when I called them, they asked me to email them with the domain name in question and that they’ll help me, and so I emailed and included the provider as well in the email and before even IIS got back, they got scared gave me the auth key.

They also operate two free to use offices in Sweden for co-working etc. Also events etc.

And, they publish lots of stats. Everything is public. They have a txt for download of dropping domains and they show stats for each registrar like how many domains they’ve registered etc.

Although, I don’t think Inleed is more domain-focused, even though that’s where they shine. They operate at least one DC (DC meaning basically a rebuilt house IIRC). They’ve also expanded their presence recently I think, and they do colo at very competitive rates.

Yes, Prem stuff.

Oh, I didn't know that about inleed. Will check them out for servers.

Two cool links:
https://internetstiftelsen.se/en/zone-data/
https://inleed.shop/

Saragoldfarb

@raza19 said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@raza19 said:
I am curious, how much wud it cost someone to launch a tld ? lets say dot rat ? Like ballpark figure in fees ? @Saragoldfarb @emgh

500K

Ho li fk! like seriously someone spent half a million dollar to get ml and tk then give it for free, kudos to them albeit sad where they all went Very expensive though.. I thought it wud be much cheaper.

after getting a tld registry, can that registrar like withhold some key domains for auctions without offering them at regular prices first? I know a registrar doing that 🤔

Ml and tk are ccTLds. Cost depends on the country (ICANN has no say) and should be/usually is much cheaper.

Now, ml and tk were sold to a Dutch company for a fee(promise) so the 'countries' waived their registry rights to a commercial entity.

Ask ai about freenom... Get some popcorn in advance.

And yes, after the first round when ICANN opened up new domain extensions to be released new rules applied, they (registries) can do whatever they want. Unlike gTLDs (com/net/org)

Changes are made along the way as well after registries have been awarded to new management after bids. Like . info, withholding registrations, tiered pricing.

Then you have . co which is is also a cctld but basically a repurposed gTLD. Lots of shenanigans going on.

Saragoldfarb

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
Oh, inleed is the subsidiary of Yelles... Makes sense

Yeah, so they say, but I think ’brand’ is a better word. I don’t think Inleed is s company at all. Yelles AB is the only company.

@emgh said:
@Saragoldfarb I think this is the CEO

https://www.allabolag.se/befattningshavare/jens-mats-olsson/-/11325673

Some holding company but nothing else. It’s Yelles AB. There’s no Inleed company IIRC

You're probably right. Never looked into them much. Someone on e recommended them to me for se/nu and I never looked back.

Glad to hear, people who use them are usually very happy from what I’ve seen.

I think I recall seeing a crazy slow YABS of their VPS though, and when I used their web hosting I recall it being slow, but they’re very cheap for Swedish standards so…

I think they're more registrar focussed so I don't blame them.

Use(d) wk.se as well. Is like using a registrar from 1999 but it work(ed) fine. Good pricing. They recently redeveloped site/backend... Dunno.. I mean, I don't care much for the registrar if basics work, registry (Internetstiftelsen) is superb.

YES, IIS is the shit. They’ve helped me get the transfer code to a domain from a shit provider (when I called them, they asked me to email them with the domain name in question and that they’ll help me, and so I emailed and included the provider as well in the email and before even IIS got back, they got scared gave me the auth key.

They also operate two free to use offices in Sweden for co-working etc. Also events etc.

And, they publish lots of stats. Everything is public. They have a txt for download of dropping domains and they show stats for each registrar like how many domains they’ve registered etc.

Although, I don’t think Inleed is more domain-focused, even though that’s where they shine. They operate at least one DC (DC meaning basically a rebuilt house IIRC). They’ve also expanded their presence recently I think, and they do colo at very competitive rates.

Yes, Prem stuff.

Oh, I didn't know that about inleed. Will check them out for servers.

Two cool links:
https://internetstiftelsen.se/en/zone-data/
https://inleed.shop/

Thank you. They've always been offering the zones, even when they were still iis/iss ? Could never tell even back then

XNQ

@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Saragoldfarb

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Yeah but a domain is like 229SeK... I mean, c'mon.

raza19

@Saragoldfarb said:
Then you have . co which is is also a cctld but basically a repurposed gTLD. Lots of shenanigans going on.

Didn't realize gTLD rules were different from ccTLD since many of the latter are being used as former like I guess dot tv.

I know about freenom, there was a time almost 13-14 years ago when I had a startup where we were working on a blogging platform, blogs were all the rage back then. We tried integrating all these free tlds with user blog domains, interesting times

Saragoldfarb

I'm sure you can look it up but registrar 'at cost' is maybe 30-50SeK?

XNQ

@Saragoldfarb said:

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Yeah but a domain is like 229SeK... I mean, c'mon.

interesting, just checked other Swedish hosts and seems Inleed is the only one offering .se/.nu domains at a huge loss.
Last time I had actual insights into these TLDs in direct contact with IIS, it was in the mid 100SEK range per domain. And that was a few years ago, so I can see the actual cost being close to 200SEK.

Saragoldfarb

@raza19 said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
Then you have . co which is is also a cctld but basically a repurposed gTLD. Lots of shenanigans going on.

Didn't realize gTLD rules were different from ccTLD since many of the latter are being used as former like I guess dot tv.

I know about freenom, there was a time almost 13-14 years ago when I had a startup where we were working on a blogging platform, blogs were all the rage back then. We tried integrating all these free tlds with user blog domains, interesting times

Much different. That's why you'll find 'shady stuff' switching to ccTLds. ICANN (read USA) has no say about them.

Saragoldfarb

@XNQ said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Yeah but a domain is like 229SeK... I mean, c'mon.

interesting, just checked other Swedish hosts and seems Inleed is the only one offering .se/.nu domains at a huge loss.
Last time I had actual insights into these TLDs in direct contact with IIS, it was in the mid 100SEK range per domain. And that was a few years ago, so I can see the actual cost being close to 200SEK.

https://xn--billigatoppdomner-3qb.se/

Saragoldfarb

@Saragoldfarb said:

@XNQ said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Yeah but a domain is like 229SeK... I mean, c'mon.

interesting, just checked other Swedish hosts and seems Inleed is the only one offering .se/.nu domains at a huge loss.
Last time I had actual insights into these TLDs in direct contact with IIS, it was in the mid 100SEK range per domain. And that was a few years ago, so I can see the actual cost being close to 200SEK.

https://xn--billigatoppdomner-3qb.se/

Sorry, my phone doesn't like Swedish

Turbo_Pascal

@sillycat said: CentralNic helped Inleed become an ICANN accredited registrar and helps them with integration. Everything goes Inleed -> CentralNic -> ICANN.

Do people expect NameCrane to differ from this process? I imagine it must be set up differently.

emgh

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@emgh said:

@Saragoldfarb said:
Oh, inleed is the subsidiary of Yelles... Makes sense

Yeah, so they say, but I think ’brand’ is a better word. I don’t think Inleed is s company at all. Yelles AB is the only company.

@emgh said:
@Saragoldfarb I think this is the CEO

https://www.allabolag.se/befattningshavare/jens-mats-olsson/-/11325673

Some holding company but nothing else. It’s Yelles AB. There’s no Inleed company IIRC

You're probably right. Never looked into them much. Someone on e recommended them to me for se/nu and I never looked back.

Glad to hear, people who use them are usually very happy from what I’ve seen.

I think I recall seeing a crazy slow YABS of their VPS though, and when I used their web hosting I recall it being slow, but they’re very cheap for Swedish standards so…

I think they're more registrar focussed so I don't blame them.

Use(d) wk.se as well. Is like using a registrar from 1999 but it work(ed) fine. Good pricing. They recently redeveloped site/backend... Dunno.. I mean, I don't care much for the registrar if basics work, registry (Internetstiftelsen) is superb.

YES, IIS is the shit. They’ve helped me get the transfer code to a domain from a shit provider (when I called them, they asked me to email them with the domain name in question and that they’ll help me, and so I emailed and included the provider as well in the email and before even IIS got back, they got scared gave me the auth key.

They also operate two free to use offices in Sweden for co-working etc. Also events etc.

And, they publish lots of stats. Everything is public. They have a txt for download of dropping domains and they show stats for each registrar like how many domains they’ve registered etc.

Although, I don’t think Inleed is more domain-focused, even though that’s where they shine. They operate at least one DC (DC meaning basically a rebuilt house IIRC). They’ve also expanded their presence recently I think, and they do colo at very competitive rates.

Yes, Prem stuff.

Oh, I didn't know that about inleed. Will check them out for servers.

Two cool links:
https://internetstiftelsen.se/en/zone-data/
https://inleed.shop/

Thank you. They've always been offering the zones, even when they were still iis/iss ? Could never tell even back then

Not sure honestly (IIS, renamed to Internetstiftelsen some years ago)

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

No I just want to pay half

beanman109

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

emgh

@XNQ said:

@Saragoldfarb said:

@XNQ said:
@emgh are you an employee (or ex) of Inleed?

for anything Swedish related (hosting, .se/.nu domains) I've always gone with Oderland

Yeah but a domain is like 229SeK... I mean, c'mon.

interesting, just checked other Swedish hosts and seems Inleed is the only one offering .se/.nu domains at a huge loss.
Last time I had actual insights into these TLDs in direct contact with IIS, it was in the mid 100SEK range per domain. And that was a few years ago, so I can see the actual cost being close to 200SEK.

Huge loss?

IIRC the cost is like 120 SEK from IIS. Not sure about this though. Inleed’s renewal is 139 SEK.

They likely have higher profit margins on hosting.

Oderland is way more expensive.

beanman109

I'll take 1 SEK please

emgh

Also, I think Inleed didn’t even do cheaper registrations than renewal until recently, they didn’t have the capital to not profit during the first year as I guess they do now. However, the larger registrars are often having much more aggressive first year pricing compared to Inleed.

Sometimes I register with one of those and instantly transfer to Inleed.

Edit: IIRC the domain pricing that registrars get by IIS depends on how many % of their registered domains use DNSSEC.

emgh

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

beanman109

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

emgh

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

AUD AUS ASS

beanman109

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

AUD AUS ASS

the 3 things in life i love

emgh

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

AUD AUS ASS

the 3 things in life i love

My it s lov warn brow

But

Warn brow it s hate myine

beanman109

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

AUD AUS ASS

the 3 things in life i love

My it s lov warn brow

But

Warn brow it s hate myine

if you love her, ddr ignore
if she loves you back, ddr accept

emgh

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@emgh said:

@beanman109 said:

@Saragoldfarb said: 229SeK

is this a real currency...

Says the one using dollars with the twist that it’s valued at half a real dollar

I prefer to compare it to Canadian dollars, we're much more on par with them

AUD AUS ASS

the 3 things in life i love

My it s lov warn brow

But

Warn brow it s hate myine

if you love her, ddr ignore
if she loves you back, ddr accept

Warn blow it s toxik relationchip it s send letter trething me i juse for barbekue

natvps_uk

@Michal212 said:

@tototo said:
Micronode by @natvps_uk: When you purchase a 1024 MB RAM resource pool, you can split it into smaller instances, such as 512MB × 2 or 64MB × 16, and deploy them across multiple locations.

Could you provide an invite?

We’re currently not accepting invitations although Yetinode offer the same platform with the same locations: https://arctic.yetinode.uk

Michal212

@natvps_uk said:

@Michal212 said:

@tototo said:
Micronode by @natvps_uk: When you purchase a 1024 MB RAM resource pool, you can split it into smaller instances, such as 512MB × 2 or 64MB × 16, and deploy them across multiple locations.

Could you provide an invite?

We’re currently not accepting invitations although Yetinode offer the same platform with the same locations: https://arctic.yetinode.uk

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