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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

Even though costly initially compared to UPS, it powers the entire house for hours. I suggest it as well.

noob404

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Yah, great policy if you also looked after your customers well. These guys are just happy when a customer leaves and now they are begging for more customers.

Exactly. They didn't care if customers leaves. When BSNL started sacking/transferring employees where there are less customers, thats when they realized and started begging.

Yah, they are slowly getting back on track right now, I believe, but, do they go back to their old habits once they got a good customer base? Only God knows.

Basically govt job feeling does that. It runs in DNA i think.

It's slowly changing though since Govt. has given an ultimatum to most of them. Either better yourself or get privatised.

Privatization definitely improves them a lot. But one thing I fear is, they don't operate in areas without profits. BSNL provided connectivity to areas in entire India, when there was like only one connection as well. I respect that.

Well, that is definitely a point to consider. But, that is the exact reason they took everything for granted. They knew they were inevitable (like Thanos ) for that exact reason. Today, with 5G and better connectivity and latency that comes with it, it's easier to connect to remote areas with BSNL's support. That definitely did open their eyes a bit. WDYT?

TrK

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@TrK said:

they improve but they don't have any sense of urgency afaik, if something breaks down it will take hours just get an update. There are times i had to guide my ISP about issues and have them fixed, once i was assigned an entire subnet of his and he was calling me like crazy saying that i am consuming too much bandwidth(around 3-5tb a day) it took me 5 minutes to figure out the issue and the solution

They did what? May be your home lab consuming 5TB , we don't believe you, I am with ISP. 🤣🤣

my router logs my bandwidth usage it was showing me 4tb for the entire month also checked stats from lab and my pc found nothing strange anyway ISP was able to fix it after the call

xpress7

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

Yah, I used to think that as well, but, a friend clarified it for me when he got subsidy on off-grid solar plant for his home. But, he did say he had to go through a private player who got the discount for him.

Interesting. How much did he spent on it? How many kw?

noob404

@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

the runtime is from battery, check the model it should have the va rating in it... it should be atleast 1400va if you are planning on running your PC, tv, ps and mixer grinder

Just checked it. It's a locally assembled on, I believe. Has no VA specs. Will have to call the dealer to find out. BTW, it can't handle mixer grinders and press irons, etc.

noob404

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

But, aren't these inverters and batteries themselves pretty expensive? Forgot to factor that in.

get 150 or 130ah only, will cost you around 12k each and lasts for around 4-5 years without failing.

My current non-solar battery is 220Ah. Might have to go for that or higher. But, the prices you are quoting are similar for non-solar batteries. I guess they aren't that expensive as I though them to be.

TrK

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@TrK said:

@xpress7 said: I don't trust APC anymore

try a standard inverter from mikrotek specially pure shinewave at 1400va fix it with a tabular batter of 90 ah something. set it on UPS mode and enjoy a perfect UPS for your computers

We already have inverter at home. I am thinking of getting a second one to my room, to sustain from the powercuts in summer.

upgrade it, upgrade it, upgrade it, make it double or quadruple battery system...

noob404

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

Yah, I used to think that as well, but, a friend clarified it for me when he got subsidy on off-grid solar plant for his home. But, he did say he had to go through a private player who got the discount for him.

Interesting. How much did he spent on it? How many kw?

I don't remember the finer details. I can ask him next time if you want. The whole project came under 3.5-4Lacs.

xpress7

@TrK said:

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

Yeah. noob clarified we can get subsidy on offline as well. Have to check both options, and calculate the prices / savings on both models I think. Will check that as well.

TrK

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@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

the runtime is from battery, check the model it should have the va rating in it... it should be atleast 1400va if you are planning on running your PC, tv, ps and mixer grinder

Just checked it. It's a locally assembled on, I believe. Has no VA specs. Will have to call the dealer to find out. BTW, it can't handle mixer grinders and press irons, etc.

i am guessing it to be around 700-800va if it can't handle iron and grinders or can be lower

TrK

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

But, aren't these inverters and batteries themselves pretty expensive? Forgot to factor that in.

get 150 or 130ah only, will cost you around 12k each and lasts for around 4-5 years without failing.

My current non-solar battery is 220Ah. Might have to go for that or higher. But, the prices you are quoting are similar for non-solar batteries. I guess they aren't that expensive as I though them to be.

any battery after 150ah is a scam, believe me

xpress7

@TrK said:

it will take years to do that and once the govt changes it will be setback a little more, an endless battle where only common people suffer...

Thats whats happening now. It moved backwards. We thought we will get some new city nearby, with more oppurtunities. Its sad that govts can still take us backwards if they are bad.

TrK

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@TrK said:

it will take years to do that and once the govt changes it will be setback a little more, an endless battle where only common people suffer...

Thats whats happening now. It moved backwards. We thought we will get some new city nearby, with more oppurtunities. Its sad that govts can still take us backwards if they are bad.

i mean i have seen plenty of cases like this already they can't fix and will only focus on taxes

noob404

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

the runtime is from battery, check the model it should have the va rating in it... it should be atleast 1400va if you are planning on running your PC, tv, ps and mixer grinder

Just checked it. It's a locally assembled on, I believe. Has no VA specs. Will have to call the dealer to find out. BTW, it can't handle mixer grinders and press irons, etc.

i am guessing it to be around 700-800va if it can't handle iron and grinders or can be lower

You could be right. My PC has a 550W PSU. Sure that 600VA UPS won't be enough to just save it from a hard poweroff for a minute or 2?

noob404

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@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

But, aren't these inverters and batteries themselves pretty expensive? Forgot to factor that in.

get 150 or 130ah only, will cost you around 12k each and lasts for around 4-5 years without failing.

My current non-solar battery is 220Ah. Might have to go for that or higher. But, the prices you are quoting are similar for non-solar batteries. I guess they aren't that expensive as I though them to be.

any battery after 150ah is a scam, believe me

So, maybe 2 150Ah is better?

xpress7

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

Oh no. Normal home inverters can't handle the load from high wattage. mixer griders. You should not do that.

xpress7

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Oh yah, all this talk of inverter and power backup reminded me that I need a UPS for my PC. Got an inverter already, but, at times, when on heavy load, my PC hard powers off during a blackout. Need a cheap UPS to save me from those. Any suggestions. UPS below 2K still a thing? Gotta check.

Oh yes, good to see guys like this still exist - https://www.amazon.in/Microtek-Interactive-Legend-650-Protection/dp/B0C7C2VP8D but there's the APC one for almost 1300 more - https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX600C-600VA-230V-Back/dp/B016XVRKZM

Any suggestions? don't wanna spend 1K more cause the UPS will only prevent my PC going poof as soon as electricity's gone. The load will then be handled by inverter. Just need a 2-3 minute saviour.

I have two APC ones.. Costly one (around 15k) both batteries died after 1 year.
The BX600 model you mentioned, I got it for 3k 2 years back. Its running, but not getting any backup. Even got battery replace warning few days back.

I don't trust APC anymore

Yah, APC's quality has gone down as well. Many complaints. My friend got an expensive one 20K+ recently, and it completely stopped working in a week. APC's supprot did replace it, but, that was a hassle as well.

Good that it was faulty earlier, so that he got a replacement.

I think I lost considerable amount on it. Didn't try to replace batteries. I'll try after few months may be.

BTW, if you face any issues with any of these companies, make a complaint here - https://consumerhelpline.gov.in/public/

It's pretty effective. Had a very positive experience recently.

You had experience with that? what happened?

noob404

Okay guys, have to take care of a few stuff. Have a bad headache. Will see you guys later. Don't go exploring more interesting topics in my absence JK, keep the party alive with these convos. Will join you guys maybe in a few hours.

noob404

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

Oh no. Normal home inverters can't handle the load from high wattage. mixer griders. You should not do that.

Yah, it just happens accidentally, when the mixer grinder is accidentally plugged into an inverter connected socket, for example.

noob404

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@noob404 said:
Oh yah, all this talk of inverter and power backup reminded me that I need a UPS for my PC. Got an inverter already, but, at times, when on heavy load, my PC hard powers off during a blackout. Need a cheap UPS to save me from those. Any suggestions. UPS below 2K still a thing? Gotta check.

Oh yes, good to see guys like this still exist - https://www.amazon.in/Microtek-Interactive-Legend-650-Protection/dp/B0C7C2VP8D but there's the APC one for almost 1300 more - https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX600C-600VA-230V-Back/dp/B016XVRKZM

Any suggestions? don't wanna spend 1K more cause the UPS will only prevent my PC going poof as soon as electricity's gone. The load will then be handled by inverter. Just need a 2-3 minute saviour.

I have two APC ones.. Costly one (around 15k) both batteries died after 1 year.
The BX600 model you mentioned, I got it for 3k 2 years back. Its running, but not getting any backup. Even got battery replace warning few days back.

I don't trust APC anymore

Yah, APC's quality has gone down as well. Many complaints. My friend got an expensive one 20K+ recently, and it completely stopped working in a week. APC's supprot did replace it, but, that was a hassle as well.

Good that it was faulty earlier, so that he got a replacement.

I think I lost considerable amount on it. Didn't try to replace batteries. I'll try after few months may be.

BTW, if you face any issues with any of these companies, make a complaint here - https://consumerhelpline.gov.in/public/

It's pretty effective. Had a very positive experience recently.

You had experience with that? what happened?

Smartwatch under warranty. Company refused warranty for bogus reasons. Filed a complaint at NCH, within 3-4 days, NCH brought the company into the conversation, the company decided they made a mistake and decided to honour the warranty. Depending on the circumstances, it might take a few more days or maybe a month tops, but, in most cases, they are super effective.
Infact, NCH is a step to consider before approaching Consumer Forum.

xpress7

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Yah, great policy if you also looked after your customers well. These guys are just happy when a customer leaves and now they are begging for more customers.

Exactly. They didn't care if customers leaves. When BSNL started sacking/transferring employees where there are less customers, thats when they realized and started begging.

Yah, they are slowly getting back on track right now, I believe, but, do they go back to their old habits once they got a good customer base? Only God knows.

Basically govt job feeling does that. It runs in DNA i think.

It's slowly changing though since Govt. has given an ultimatum to most of them. Either better yourself or get privatised.

Privatization definitely improves them a lot. But one thing I fear is, they don't operate in areas without profits. BSNL provided connectivity to areas in entire India, when there was like only one connection as well. I respect that.

Well, that is definitely a point to consider. But, that is the exact reason they took everything for granted. They knew they were inevitable (like Thanos ) for that exact reason. Today, with 5G and better connectivity and latency that comes with it, it's easier to connect to remote areas with BSNL's support. That definitely did open their eyes a bit. WDYT?

Well its employees own incompetence plus s the private companies bribing the govt to neglect BSNL of funds, and giving everything to private. Both faults were there.

Or else, no one can beat BSNL for their network they have once..

xpress7

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@TrK said:

they improve but they don't have any sense of urgency afaik, if something breaks down it will take hours just get an update. There are times i had to guide my ISP about issues and have them fixed, once i was assigned an entire subnet of his and he was calling me like crazy saying that i am consuming too much bandwidth(around 3-5tb a day) it took me 5 minutes to figure out the issue and the solution

They did what? May be your home lab consuming 5TB , we don't believe you, I am with ISP. 🤣🤣

my router logs my bandwidth usage it was showing me 4tb for the entire month also checked stats from lab and my pc found nothing strange anyway ISP was able to fix it after the call

Ha ha. You got any redundant network? or only one?

xpress7

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

But, aren't these inverters and batteries themselves pretty expensive? Forgot to factor that in.

get 150 or 130ah only, will cost you around 12k each and lasts for around 4-5 years without failing.

My current non-solar battery is 220Ah. Might have to go for that or higher. But, the prices you are quoting are similar for non-solar batteries. I guess they aren't that expensive as I though them to be.

220Ah will easily sail through the day for normal usage.

xpress7

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

it will take years to do that and once the govt changes it will be setback a little more, an endless battle where only common people suffer...

Thats whats happening now. It moved backwards. We thought we will get some new city nearby, with more oppurtunities. Its sad that govts can still take us backwards if they are bad.

i mean i have seen plenty of cases like this already they can't fix and will only focus on taxes

Everything goes back to taxes.. the inevitable.

xpress7

@TrK said:

any battery after 150ah is a scam, believe me

Why do you think so? I've seen batteries with 200Ah lasts longer than the 150 ones.

TrK

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@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

@noob404 said: Oh, thanks for that. That's way outta my budget. Might have to delay the purchase.

why not just upgrade the inverter? it's always my first suggestion

I'd have thought of that as well. But, the inverter's pretty strong. Unsure of it's specs but, it can easily handle running my PC with TV and PS4 and 3 BLDC fans continuously for 12+ hours without an issue. It's just when some heavy equipment (mixer grinders, etc.) is plugged into the wall an a blackout happens that my PC goes down.

the runtime is from battery, check the model it should have the va rating in it... it should be atleast 1400va if you are planning on running your PC, tv, ps and mixer grinder

Just checked it. It's a locally assembled on, I believe. Has no VA specs. Will have to call the dealer to find out. BTW, it can't handle mixer grinders and press irons, etc.

i am guessing it to be around 700-800va if it can't handle iron and grinders or can be lower

You could be right. My PC has a 550W PSU. Sure that 600VA UPS won't be enough to just save it from a hard poweroff for a minute or 2?

It depends on actual usage not the psu. If actual usage is around 250-300 w even a 600va ups will do just fine.

TrK

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@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

As per my reading, the subsidy ones need to connect to the local power grid. They are online models, like they work only when the power is there. And will not work when there is no power. (again have to rely on inverter maybe).

Offline works when there is sun and independed of local power. Without sun/nights works on battery. (like inverter). But we don't get subsidy on these.

This is my basic undertanding. I may be wrong though.

on grid is perfectly fine for anyone... there's a lot more to it then just charging your inverter and some.... you get really low electricity bills... just setup a multi battery inverter and roll with it blindly

But, aren't these inverters and batteries themselves pretty expensive? Forgot to factor that in.

get 150 or 130ah only, will cost you around 12k each and lasts for around 4-5 years without failing.

My current non-solar battery is 220Ah. Might have to go for that or higher. But, the prices you are quoting are similar for non-solar batteries. I guess they aren't that expensive as I though them to be.

any battery after 150ah is a scam, believe me

So, maybe 2 150Ah is better?

Way more better....

xpress7

@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

@xpress7 said: I don't trust APC anymore

try a standard inverter from mikrotek specially pure shinewave at 1400va fix it with a tabular batter of 90 ah something. set it on UPS mode and enjoy a perfect UPS for your computers

We already have inverter at home. I am thinking of getting a second one to my room, to sustain from the powercuts in summer.

upgrade it, upgrade it, upgrade it, make it double or quadruple battery system...

But my family and kids uses whatever they get.. and won't leave anything for my work incase of long power failure.. The same reaons I separated interent. 🤣🤣

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

they improve but they don't have any sense of urgency afaik, if something breaks down it will take hours just get an update. There are times i had to guide my ISP about issues and have them fixed, once i was assigned an entire subnet of his and he was calling me like crazy saying that i am consuming too much bandwidth(around 3-5tb a day) it took me 5 minutes to figure out the issue and the solution

They did what? May be your home lab consuming 5TB , we don't believe you, I am with ISP. 🤣🤣

my router logs my bandwidth usage it was showing me 4tb for the entire month also checked stats from lab and my pc found nothing strange anyway ISP was able to fix it after the call

Ha ha. You got any redundant network? or only one?

Currently only one thinking of getting that airfiber 40mbps for backup

xpress7

@noob404 said:

Smartwatch under warranty. Company refused warranty for bogus reasons. Filed a complaint at NCH, within 3-4 days, NCH brought the company into the conversation, the company decided they made a mistake and decided to honour the warranty. Depending on the circumstances, it might take a few more days or maybe a month tops, but, in most cases, they are super effective.
Infact, NCH is a step to consider before approaching Consumer Forum.

Glad to hear it. I had similar situations. Will definitely checkout that. 👍