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@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

Endpoint in the sense? Any articles to help educate myself. Even keywords to search for would be helpful.

noob404

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Also, @TrK pretty sure BSNL won't hold a grudge and won't give you a connection just cause you complained aggressively one time

They not giving any to me, might be something else.... Might be in a list a troubling customer who will demand bridge mode....

Never heard of BSNL blacklisting customers.

Might be I am just red flag for ISPs here 😂

On a serious note though, you could file a complaint if they give you no reasons for not accepting your order.

I just moved on... I don't bother unless I have to

They don't care. When I went to BSNL exchange for disconnection, they didn't even ask why. Just took my request and disconnected right away. 🤣🤣

And they don't change these slowpokes....

Oh yah, had the same experience a few years ago. Every other provider would atleast ask you and sometimes harass you for staying with them or atleast ask you for reasons for leaving. Not BSNL!

Ha ha. BSNL fllows No questions Asked Refund.. type policy.. 🤣🤣

Yah, great policy if you also looked after your customers well. These guys are just happy when a customer leaves and now they are begging for more customers.

noob404

BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

xpress7

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It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

TrK

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@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

Endpoint in the sense? Any articles to help educate myself. Even keywords to search for would be helpful.

CF Origin rules to bypass the CF and cache and use server from India location with assets loading from bunny. I can help but I don't know if I will find any documentation i kinda did it my own way after reading origin rules documentation on CF resources.

TrK

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BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

They have certainly improved the service the last time I was on their network was a completely new experience to me unlike the time I remembered them...

TrK

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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

noob404

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@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

Endpoint in the sense? Any articles to help educate myself. Even keywords to search for would be helpful.

CF Origin rules to bypass the CF and cache and use server from India location with assets loading from bunny. I can help but I don't know if I will find any documentation i kinda did it my own way after reading origin rules documentation on CF resources.

Oh, now, I have a vague idea. Will hit you up, if there are doubts. Don't wanna bother you and take up your time. Will read about it, if I can find something. Once again, thanks, TrK.

noob404

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@noob404 said:
BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

They have certainly improved the service the last time I was on their network was a completely new experience to me unlike the time I remembered them...

Yah, the competition from private players did shake their boats and woke them up from their coma of attitude, Ig.

TrK

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@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

Endpoint in the sense? Any articles to help educate myself. Even keywords to search for would be helpful.

CF Origin rules to bypass the CF and cache and use server from India location with assets loading from bunny. I can help but I don't know if I will find any documentation i kinda did it my own way after reading origin rules documentation on CF resources.

Oh, now, I have a vague idea. Will hit you up, if there are doubts. Don't wanna bother you and take up your time. Will read about it, if I can find something. Once again, thanks, TrK.

happy to help, i enjoy discussing these stuff more than anything

TrK

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

They have certainly improved the service the last time I was on their network was a completely new experience to me unlike the time I remembered them...

Yah, the competition from private players did shake their boats and woke them up from their coma of attitude, Ig.

most probably some experienced guy got the management of their fibre line, it's quite good as of now.

noob404

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@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

Endpoint in the sense? Any articles to help educate myself. Even keywords to search for would be helpful.

CF Origin rules to bypass the CF and cache and use server from India location with assets loading from bunny. I can help but I don't know if I will find any documentation i kinda did it my own way after reading origin rules documentation on CF resources.

Oh, now, I have a vague idea. Will hit you up, if there are doubts. Don't wanna bother you and take up your time. Will read about it, if I can find something. Once again, thanks, TrK.

happy to help, i enjoy discussing these stuff more than anything

I do as well. Infact, I am making tiny mind notes of everything I have learned from you guys.

noob404

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@noob404 said:
BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

They have certainly improved the service the last time I was on their network was a completely new experience to me unlike the time I remembered them...

Yah, the competition from private players did shake their boats and woke them up from their coma of attitude, Ig.

most probably some experienced guy got the management of their fibre line, it's quite good as of now.

Their fibre, if I am not wrong, wasn't as bad as their copper-based broadband from the beginning. I am talking about my area though. In my region, their fibre (FTTH) has been very much reliable.

xpress7

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Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Our state introduced it to improve connetivity in rural areas. It was with fiber+tv connection launched 9 years back I tink.. Initially it was 250 rupees per month. Now its 350 for TV(with some paid channels) + 20mbps internet upto 100GB

The prices are actually attractive. But, they coupled it with powercuts to maybe reduce internet usage

They placed the networking in local substations, and no backup there till recently. When powergone.. internet gone.. 🤣🤣

noob404

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Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Our state introduced it to improve connetivity in rural areas. It was with fiber+tv connection launched 9 years back I tink.. Initially it was 250 rupees per month. Now its 350 for TV(with some paid channels) + 20mbps internet upto 100GB

The prices are actually attractive. But, they coupled it with powercuts to maybe reduce internet usage

They placed the networking in local substations, and no backup there till recently. When powergone.. internet gone.. 🤣🤣

Oh man, I was kidding when I said that. It turned out true. They really don't have backups for their internet machinery? If that's the case, what do you do, even though you have inverter at home?

xpress7

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Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

If you want to these prices I can always share the current prices from my are for these cables and equipment

We have to pay what they ask .. its somewhat reasonable though. Having connectivity itself is great first..

Well that's a certainty with local corporate+ gangs 😂😂

The prices and connectivity improved a lot from private operators, so not complaining there. They are improving slowly though.

noob404

Oh yah, all this talk of inverter and power backup reminded me that I need a UPS for my PC. Got an inverter already, but, at times, when on heavy load, my PC hard powers off during a blackout. Need a cheap UPS to save me from those. Any suggestions. UPS below 2K still a thing? Gotta check.

xpress7

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You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

Okay. I have two hints already - you don't speak Hindi very well, and you are surrounded by trees. So, it's either Southern India or north eastern India. My best is on southern India. Was your state famous for Tenali Raman?

Ha ha.. you almost got it.

noob404

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You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

Okay. I have two hints already - you don't speak Hindi very well, and you are surrounded by trees. So, it's either Southern India or north eastern India. My best is on southern India. Was your state famous for Tenali Raman?

Ha ha.. you almost got it.

So, guessing you got Tenali Raman as a famous historical figure, it's Andhra Pradesh or Telangana.

xpress7

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Yah, great policy if you also looked after your customers well. These guys are just happy when a customer leaves and now they are begging for more customers.

Exactly. They didn't care if customers leaves. When BSNL started sacking/transferring employees where there are less customers, thats when they realized and started begging.

xpress7

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It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

noob404

@noob404 said:
Oh yah, all this talk of inverter and power backup reminded me that I need a UPS for my PC. Got an inverter already, but, at times, when on heavy load, my PC hard powers off during a blackout. Need a cheap UPS to save me from those. Any suggestions. UPS below 2K still a thing? Gotta check.

Oh yes, good to see guys like this still exist - https://www.amazon.in/Microtek-Interactive-Legend-650-Protection/dp/B0C7C2VP8D but there's the APC one for almost 1300 more - https://www.amazon.in/APC-BX600C-600VA-230V-Back/dp/B016XVRKZM

Any suggestions? don't wanna spend 1K more cause the UPS will only prevent my PC going poof as soon as electricity's gone. The load will then be handled by inverter. Just need a 2-3 minute saviour.

noob404

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Yah, great policy if you also looked after your customers well. These guys are just happy when a customer leaves and now they are begging for more customers.

Exactly. They didn't care if customers leaves. When BSNL started sacking/transferring employees where there are less customers, thats when they realized and started begging.

Yah, they are slowly getting back on track right now, I believe, but, do they go back to their old habits once they got a good customer base? Only God knows.

noob404

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It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

Hoping so.. but they change from state to state though.

I mean you can make it certainly unless some ministry makes trouble for you.

I want to setup the solar plant , but it costs too much, esp for offline model.

No, dude. Get the quotations from your private dealer, but, also check with https://www.pmsuryaghar.gov.in/ to make sure you are getting good prices. I believe the website also has details about subsidies. Maybe try that as well.

xpress7

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Oh man, I was kidding when I said that. It turned out true. They really don't have backups for their internet machinery? If that's the case, what do you do, even though you have inverter at home?

Thats why I got two connections. One from private and one from govt subsidary. They improved now though, they have backups now.

noob404

@xpress7 said:

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Oh man, I was kidding when I said that. It turned out true. They really don't have backups for their internet machinery? If that's the case, what do you do, even though you have inverter at home?

Thats why I got two connections. One from private and one from govt subsidary. They improved now though, they have backups now.

Ah, I see. Good to have two connections. I am guessing the Govt. one is used mostly for TV and such while the other one for more serious tasks?

xpress7

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You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

Okay. I have two hints already - you don't speak Hindi very well, and you are surrounded by trees. So, it's either Southern India or north eastern India. My best is on southern India. Was your state famous for Tenali Raman?

Ha ha.. you almost got it.

So, guessing you got Tenali Raman as a famous historical figure, it's Andhra Pradesh or Telangana.

You got it. Its AP 👍

TrK

@noob404 said:
Oh yah, all this talk of inverter and power backup reminded me that I need a UPS for my PC. Got an inverter already, but, at times, when on heavy load, my PC hard powers off during a blackout. Need a cheap UPS to save me from those. Any suggestions. UPS below 2K still a thing? Gotta check.

2k get's you a 600va one i doubt it can survive if your standard inverter can't with power load. Get least 1100va one and you will be fine

noob404

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@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

Okay. I have two hints already - you don't speak Hindi very well, and you are surrounded by trees. So, it's either Southern India or north eastern India. My best is on southern India. Was your state famous for Tenali Raman?

Ha ha.. you almost got it.

So, guessing you got Tenali Raman as a famous historical figure, it's Andhra Pradesh or Telangana.

You got it. Its AP 👍

Well, thank you. Was in Hyderabad (TG) for a few hours a few months ago, visiting Char Minar. Hbad is really developed right now, dude. Is AP planning a tech city like Hbad as well?

TrK

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@noob404 said:
BSNL internet services, from what I know is still a favourite among Govt. Employees specifically for the 20% discount.

They have certainly improved the service the last time I was on their network was a completely new experience to me unlike the time I remembered them...

Yah, the competition from private players did shake their boats and woke them up from their coma of attitude, Ig.

most probably some experienced guy got the management of their fibre line, it's quite good as of now.

Their fibre, if I am not wrong, wasn't as bad as their copper-based broadband from the beginning. I am talking about my area though. In my region, their fibre (FTTH) has been very much reliable.

it used to be bad here constant latency issues and more with these...