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@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

TrK

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

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@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

Tried airtel airfiber? It's cheap imo and been running fine in my neighborhood.

No big operators here. I'm in a remote village far far away from district head quarters.. which is small city. Like 2 and half hours journey.

Airtel airfiber is operated by airtel themselves and it's that wireless thingy no cables required.... You get 40mbps called 3.3TB for 500, pretty good imo. Just a little high latency being wireless....

Just for the internet right? No OTT and no TV channels right?

Yeah no ott and such but still a solid value if there's no one cheaper.

Yah, 500 for 40Mbps sounds good with no alternatives around given its also mostly wireless. Are the pings any good? Got any personal experience. I am on the fence with making decision on Jio Fiber or wait for Airtel.

Latency will be a bit on high side but won't be noticeable if you get good signals. It's same mobile internet same pings just better connectivity overall

Yah. Basically 5G, but wonder if Airtel as well shares the same problems as with JioFiber - CF and all.

Apparently airtel is one of strongest peers of CF in India so you will get perfectly fine connectivity with CF compared to jio and bsnl

noob404

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

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@TrK said:

Separate.... My home one is currently on my father's name so I get to use my pc 24x7 sometimes unless he notices and plug the cable out that is😂

Separate meter reduces the unit price though.

Your home lab is in a separate stair to get two connections?

Separate location all together.... Perks of being villagers...

Separate location and locked? what about power backup? inverter for homelab?

Electricity uptime is good in recent years and yeah got a separate inverter for that as well. Well it's not locked but the room my homelab in sure is.

Thats great. We have frequent power cuts. Can't even work properly. Luckily have inverter at home. Some days we have powercut like all day time.

Didn't know there were states in India where these practices were still prevalent.

Oh yeah.. athey are still here.. lots of powercuts. And some due to climate also, as we are surrounded by trees.

You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
Also, @TrK pretty sure BSNL won't hold a grudge and won't give you a connection just cause you complained aggressively one time

They not giving any to me, might be something else.... Might be in a list a troubling customer who will demand bridge mode....

Never heard of BSNL blacklisting customers.

Might be I am just red flag for ISPs here 😂

On a serious note though, you could file a complaint if they give you no reasons for not accepting your order.

I just moved on... I don't bother unless I have to

They don't care. When I went to BSNL exchange for disconnection, they didn't even ask why. Just took my request and disconnected right away. 🤣🤣

And they don't change these slowpokes....

xpress7

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:
Any news on Jio and Airtel working on tech similar to Elon's Starlink? Would love to give that a try if they launch in the upcoming year or so.

Read they were fighting with government for allocation of spectrum. As per them govt is favouring Musk in this project.

But, didn't you hear what happened recently. Iirc, Manipur-based rebel groups were using Starlink within India closer to Myanmar border for communication. They got caught and the Government is right now questioning Starlink

Oh. Didn't read the news then. Its bad.

TrK

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Apparently it's a thing in various states I believe including TG, Andhra...

noob404

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

Tried airtel airfiber? It's cheap imo and been running fine in my neighborhood.

No big operators here. I'm in a remote village far far away from district head quarters.. which is small city. Like 2 and half hours journey.

Airtel airfiber is operated by airtel themselves and it's that wireless thingy no cables required.... You get 40mbps called 3.3TB for 500, pretty good imo. Just a little high latency being wireless....

Just for the internet right? No OTT and no TV channels right?

Yeah no ott and such but still a solid value if there's no one cheaper.

Yah, 500 for 40Mbps sounds good with no alternatives around given its also mostly wireless. Are the pings any good? Got any personal experience. I am on the fence with making decision on Jio Fiber or wait for Airtel.

Latency will be a bit on high side but won't be noticeable if you get good signals. It's same mobile internet same pings just better connectivity overall

Yah. Basically 5G, but wonder if Airtel as well shares the same problems as with JioFiber - CF and all.

Apparently airtel is one of strongest peers of CF in India so you will get perfectly fine connectivity with CF compared to jio and bsnl

Oh, that's one point for Airtel then. Wonder what Jio's doing!

xpress7

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:
Any news on Jio and Airtel working on tech similar to Elon's Starlink? Would love to give that a try if they launch in the upcoming year or so.

Read they were fighting with government for allocation of spectrum. As per them govt is favouring Musk in this project.

It's not govt it's bureaucrats getting the bribes probably

Thats obvious.. everyone hands needed to be wet, before the approval..

TrK

@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

noob404

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
Also, @TrK pretty sure BSNL won't hold a grudge and won't give you a connection just cause you complained aggressively one time

They not giving any to me, might be something else.... Might be in a list a troubling customer who will demand bridge mode....

Never heard of BSNL blacklisting customers.

Might be I am just red flag for ISPs here 😂

On a serious note though, you could file a complaint if they give you no reasons for not accepting your order.

I just moved on... I don't bother unless I have to

They don't care. When I went to BSNL exchange for disconnection, they didn't even ask why. Just took my request and disconnected right away. 🤣🤣

And they don't change these slowpokes....

Oh yah, had the same experience a few years ago. Every other provider would atleast ask you and sometimes harass you for staying with them or atleast ask you for reasons for leaving. Not BSNL!

noob404

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:
Any news on Jio and Airtel working on tech similar to Elon's Starlink? Would love to give that a try if they launch in the upcoming year or so.

Read they were fighting with government for allocation of spectrum. As per them govt is favouring Musk in this project.

But, didn't you hear what happened recently. Iirc, Manipur-based rebel groups were using Starlink within India closer to Myanmar border for communication. They got caught and the Government is right now questioning Starlink

Oh. Didn't read the news then. Its bad.

It is. That puts Starlink in bad light in the eyes of the Govt.

xpress7

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

Sed i think we should write to airtel about setting up a drop point near your location.

Here Airtel don't care about us. Basically Airtel is one big corporation I hate, they increased prices like hell on anything. Before jio they even charged 300 for 1gb data..

Although JIo is another devil, I prefer it to Airtel.

I prefer bsnl for my mobile it's cheap and i only need calling so it's best.

BSNL is cheap, but no signal.

noob404

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Apparently it's a thing in various states I believe including TG, Andhra...

Oh yah, now, I remember K-FON in Kerala and such. There was some controversy regarding that a few years ago, iirc.

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

noob404

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

Sed i think we should write to airtel about setting up a drop point near your location.

Here Airtel don't care about us. Basically Airtel is one big corporation I hate, they increased prices like hell on anything. Before jio they even charged 300 for 1gb data..

Although JIo is another devil, I prefer it to Airtel.

I prefer bsnl for my mobile it's cheap and i only need calling so it's best.

BSNL is cheap, but no signal.

Get plenty move over to my place 😀😜

noob404

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

If it's BSNL, yes, they have been cornered now. Bad ratings, almost outta business, they have been left with no option other than improving.

xpress7

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Our state introduced it to improve connetivity in rural areas. It was with fiber+tv connection launched 9 years back I tink.. Initially it was 250 rupees per month. Now its 350 for TV(with some paid channels) + 20mbps internet upto 100GB

TrK

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

TrK

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

If it's BSNL, yes, they have been cornered now. Bad ratings, almost outta business, they have been left with no option other than improving.

Bsnl and power companies owned by government 😄

noob404

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Our state introduced it to improve connetivity in rural areas. It was with fiber+tv connection launched 9 years back I tink.. Initially it was 250 rupees per month. Now its 350 for TV(with some paid channels) + 20mbps internet upto 100GB

The prices are actually attractive. But, they coupled it with powercuts to maybe reduce internet usage

xpress7

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

If you want to these prices I can always share the current prices from my are for these cables and equipment

We have to pay what they ask .. its somewhat reasonable though. Having connectivity itself is great first..

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

Government operated? State Governments now be selling fibre connections? Didn't know about this

Our state introduced it to improve connetivity in rural areas. It was with fiber+tv connection launched 9 years back I tink.. Initially it was 250 rupees per month. Now its 350 for TV(with some paid channels) + 20mbps internet upto 100GB

Certainly would have been a blast at that time... I remember getting 10mbps connection 19 years back for 700

noob404

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

xpress7

@noob404 said:

You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

noob404

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

It happens here as well just occasionally when they are doing work on them cable or nearest sub station.

Occassionally is acceptable. But frequent ones is bad. They are govt workers, so we know the service.

It will improve in a year or so believe me, we are already moving forward with big solar plant projects so it might just happen.

If it's BSNL, yes, they have been cornered now. Bad ratings, almost outta business, they have been left with no option other than improving.

Bsnl and power companies owned by government 😄

Government's privatising aggressively in order to fix their management syles.

TrK

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

Paying for 5km might cost a fortune depending on your locality. I was once asked by a local player to pay for 500m cable. And when I asked them how much it's be, he quoted 6k.This was 5 years ago. Maybe the prices have come down.

Our local operator do charge for the wire, but its like around total around 4k for gpon modem/router and connection.

We have govt operated fiber connection as well, which was launched as a pilot project first, which was working great as well. But it went downhill after govt change. Now the govt changed again, have to wait and see how it works.

If you want to these prices I can always share the current prices from my are for these cables and equipment

We have to pay what they ask .. its somewhat reasonable though. Having connectivity itself is great first..

Well that's a certainty with local corporate+ gangs 😂😂

TrK

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
@TrK Forgot to update but with my website, I tried disabling the exception for Jio connections. It worked fine for a day and went back to its old behaviour. So, had to re-enable the exception which is why my websites don't use CloudFlare's features when connected from a Jio network. Is there a one-stop solution for this?

Currently none... Unless ofcourse you convince jio to peer with CF at any IX facility operated in India.

Well, no CF for Jio users then.

It's the best course of action for now.... I mean we can't do any changes on jio network but certainly can do on our.

Thanks for the tip back on the BF thread. Yous aved me from a lot of mess and headaches.

I know cause I been through it and I just don't care now... If I am behind cdn it's either CF or bunny or if the user is browsing from jio i route it to my own endpoint it's better and doable.

noob404

@xpress7 said:

@noob404 said:

You are gonna make me guess the state, Ig. Ready for the game? Don't tell me okay? I'm gonna ask you a few questions and will guess it?!

Ha ha sure..

Okay. I have two hints already - you don't speak Hindi very well, and you are surrounded by trees. So, it's either Southern India or north eastern India. My best is on southern India. Was your state famous for Tenali Raman?

xpress7

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@xpress7 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:

@TrK said:

@noob404 said:
Also, @TrK pretty sure BSNL won't hold a grudge and won't give you a connection just cause you complained aggressively one time

They not giving any to me, might be something else.... Might be in a list a troubling customer who will demand bridge mode....

Never heard of BSNL blacklisting customers.

Might be I am just red flag for ISPs here 😂

On a serious note though, you could file a complaint if they give you no reasons for not accepting your order.

I just moved on... I don't bother unless I have to

They don't care. When I went to BSNL exchange for disconnection, they didn't even ask why. Just took my request and disconnected right away. 🤣🤣

And they don't change these slowpokes....

Oh yah, had the same experience a few years ago. Every other provider would atleast ask you and sometimes harass you for staying with them or atleast ask you for reasons for leaving. Not BSNL!

Ha ha. BSNL fllows No questions Asked Refund.. type policy.. 🤣🤣