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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @JoeMerit said:
    Aren't we all avoiding leaseweb due to high bandwidth overage charges and lack of ability to shutdown when limit is reached?

    You cap it at allowed bandwidth in their backend. I had a VM there for years (SG). Never had an issue but if you max it out, they charge a lot for traffic, especially in SG.

    That being said, my server ran without issues for years, network was great. Think I cancelled it maybe 2 years ago. Things could be different now.

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  • @Saragoldfarb said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    Aren't we all avoiding leaseweb due to high bandwidth overage charges and lack of ability to shutdown when limit is reached?

    You cap it at allowed bandwidth in their backend. I had a VM there for years (SG). Never had an issue but if you max it out, they charge a lot for traffic, especially in SG.

    That being said, my server ran without issues for years, network was great. Think I cancelled it maybe 2 years ago. Things could be different now.

    last I checked you could cap the allowed bandwidth but it warned you that the bandwidth was not tracked in real time and that many hours could pass before the limit actually kicks in. This is why I have avoided leaseweb VMs in every location.

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  • SaragoldfarbSaragoldfarb Member, Megathread Squad

    @JoeMerit said:

    @Saragoldfarb said:

    @JoeMerit said:
    Aren't we all avoiding leaseweb due to high bandwidth overage charges and lack of ability to shutdown when limit is reached?

    You cap it at allowed bandwidth in their backend. I had a VM there for years (SG). Never had an issue but if you max it out, they charge a lot for traffic, especially in SG.

    That being said, my server ran without issues for years, network was great. Think I cancelled it maybe 2 years ago. Things could be different now.

    last I checked you could cap the allowed bandwidth but it warned you that the bandwidth was not tracked in real time and that many hours could pass before the limit actually kicks in. This is why I have avoided leaseweb VMs in every location.

    I think you're right about that. We used to set it 10% under the limit if I recall correctly.

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2024

    I got update from leaseweb.
    They said bandwidth is indeed 30TB for Singapore VPS.

  • tempting, but it said that at least 1 year contract right ?

  • HostDZireHostDZire Member, Patron Provider
    edited December 2024

    Here is yabs and nw.sh report of 1st Plan.

    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    #              Yet-Another-Bench-Script              #
    #                     v2024-06-09                    #
    # https://github.com/masonr/yet-another-bench-script #
    # ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## #
    
    Mon Dec 16 01:42:41 PM UTC 2024
    
    Basic System Information:
    ---------------------------------
    Uptime     : 0 days, 3 hours, 34 minutes
    Processor  : AMD EPYC Processor
    CPU cores  : 4 @ 2645.030 MHz
    AES-NI     : ✔ Enabled
    VM-x/AMD-V : ❌ Disabled
    RAM        : 5.8 GiB
    Swap       : 0.0 KiB
    Disk       : 98.3 GiB
    Distro     : Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
    Kernel     : 6.8.0-49-generic
    VM Type    : KVM
    IPv4/IPv6  : ✔ Online / ❌ Offline
    
    IPv4 Network Information:
    ---------------------------------
    ISP        : Leaseweb Singapore Pte. Ltd.
    ASN        : AS59253 LEASEWEB SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
    Host       : Leaseweb Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd.
    Location   : Singapore, Central Singapore (01)
    Country    : Singapore
    
    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 100.20 MB/s  (25.0k) | 254.76 MB/s   (3.9k)
    Write      | 100.46 MB/s  (25.1k) | 256.10 MB/s   (4.0k)
    Total      | 200.67 MB/s  (50.1k) | 510.87 MB/s   (7.9k)
               |                      |
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
    Read       | 70.85 MB/s     (138) | 126.37 MB/s    (123)
    Write      | 74.61 MB/s     (145) | 134.79 MB/s    (131)
    Total      | 145.46 MB/s    (283) | 261.16 MB/s    (254)
    
    iperf3 Network Speed Tests (IPv4):
    ---------------------------------
    Provider        | Location (Link)           | Send Speed      | Recv Speed      | Ping
    -----           | -----                     | ----            | ----            | ----
    Clouvider       | London, UK (10G)          | 666 Mbits/sec   | 717 Mbits/sec   | 239 ms
    Eranium         | Amsterdam, NL (100G)      | 1.17 Gbits/sec  | 1.45 Gbits/sec  | 156 ms
    Uztelecom       | Tashkent, UZ (10G)        | 1.45 Gbits/sec  | 1.63 Gbits/sec  | 120 ms
    Leaseweb        | Singapore, SG (10G)       | 8.65 Gbits/sec  | 6.81 Gbits/sec  | 1.45 ms
    Clouvider       | Los Angeles, CA, US (10G) | 212 Mbits/sec   | 806 Mbits/sec   | 184 ms
    Leaseweb        | NYC, NY, US (10G)         | 700 Mbits/sec   | 930 Mbits/sec   | 238 ms
    Edgoo           | Sao Paulo, BR (1G)        | busy            | 553 Mbits/sec   | 351 ms
    
    Geekbench 6 Benchmark Test:
    ---------------------------------
    Test            | Value
                    |
    Single Core     | 1042
    Multi Core      | 3356
    Full Test       | https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/9457710
    
    YABS completed in 13 min 14 sec
    
    
    
    ---------------------------------- nws.sh ---------------------------------
          A simple script to bench network performance using speedtest-cli
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Version            : v2024.12.05
     Global Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash
     Region Speedtest   : wget -qO- nws.sh | bash -s -- -r <region>
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic System Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     CPU Model          : AMD EPYC Processor
     CPU Cores          : 4 @ 2645.030 MHz
     CPU Cache          : 512 KB
     AES-NI             : ✔ Enabled
     VM-x/AMD-V         : ❌ Disabled
     Total Disk         : 98.3 GB (1.8 GB Used)
     Total RAM          : 5.8 GB (366.8 MB Used)
     System uptime      : 0 days, 3 hour 51 min
     Load average       : 0.01, 0.36, 0.35
     OS                 : Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS
     Arch               : x86_64 (64 Bit)
     Kernel             : 6.8.0-49-generic
     Virtualization     : KVM
     TCP Control        : cubic
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Basic Network Info
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Primary Network    : IPv4
     IPv6 Access        : ❌ Offline
     IPv4 Access        : ✔ Online
     ISP                : Leaseweb Singapore Pte. Ltd.
     ASN                : AS59253 LEASEWEB SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
     Host               : Leaseweb Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd.
     Location           : Singapore, Central Singapore-01, Singapore
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Speedtest.net (Region: GLOBAL)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Location         Latency     Loss    DL Speed       UP Speed       Server
    
     ISP: Leaseweb Asia
    
     Nearest          0.96 ms     0.0%    6658.11 Mbps   7110.04 Mbps   PT Indosat Tbk - Singapore
    
     Kochi, IN        81.06 ms    0.0%    4452.26 Mbps   1516.03 Mbps   Asianet Broadband - Cochin
     Bangalore, IN    39.37 ms    0.0%    5924.98 Mbps   2085.90 Mbps   Bharti Airtel Ltd - Bangalore
     Chennai, IN      FAILED
     Mumbai, IN       90.45 ms    0.0%    4099.55 Mbps   1062.45 Mbps   Tata Teleservices Ltd - Mumbai
     Delhi, IN        69.74 ms    0.0%    4859.07 Mbps   1217.16 Mbps   Tata Play Fiber - New Delhi
    
     Seattle, US      231.19 ms   N/A     2806.08 Mbps   384.95 Mbps    Comcast - Seattle, WA
     Los Angeles, US  171.65 ms   0.0%    3253.19 Mbps   535.86 Mbps    ReliableSite Hosting - Los Angeles, CA
     Dallas, US       231.34 ms   0.0%    3355.41 Mbps   380.75 Mbps    i3D.net - Dallas, TX
     Miami, US        238.60 ms   N/A     2319.71 Mbps   409.62 Mbps    Dish Wireless - Miami, FL
     New York, US     216.33 ms   0.0%    3305.23 Mbps   471.74 Mbps    GSL Networks - New York, NY
     Toronto, CA      232.31 ms   0.0%    3692.83 Mbps   385.07 Mbps    Rogers - Toronto, ON
     Mexico City, MX  225.59 ms   N/A     3077.89 Mbps   193.92 Mbps    INFINITUM - Ciudad de México
    
     London, UK       168.30 ms   0.0%    3148.61 Mbps   120.12 Mbps    VeloxServ Communications - London
     Amsterdam, NL    159.29 ms   0.0%    3323.03 Mbps   564.90 Mbps    31173 Services AB - Amsterdam
     Paris, FR        250.00 ms   N/A     3631.90 Mbps   288.08 Mbps    Axione - Paris
     Frankfurt, DE    176.92 ms   0.0%    4402.58 Mbps   436.48 Mbps    Clouvider Ltd - Frankfurt am Main
     Warsaw, PL       175.08 ms   0.0%    3089.63 Mbps   594.81 Mbps    Play - Warszawa
     Bucharest, RO    173.65 ms   0.0%    4415.92 Mbps   462.30 Mbps    Vodafone Romania Fixed – Bucharest - Bucharest
     Moscow, RU       FAILED
    
     Jeddah, SA       142.27 ms   0.0%    3470.94 Mbps   620.89 Mbps    Saudi Telecom Company
     Dubai, AE        179.79 ms   N/A     2877.94 Mbps   428.80 Mbps    e& UAE - Dubai
     Istanbul, TR     197.52 ms   0.0%    5133.01 Mbps   550.88 Mbps    Turkcell - Istanbul
     Tehran, IR       344.86 ms   N/A     131.60 Mbps    242.32 Mbps    Asiatech - Tehran
     Cairo, EG        291.55 ms   N/A     2272.22 Mbps   215.70 Mbps    Orange Egypt - Cairo
    
     Tokyo, JP        67.65 ms    1.1%    4498.36 Mbps   1369.62 Mbps   GSL Networks - Tokyo
     Shanghai, CU-CN  FAILED
     Nanjing, CT-CN   338.41 ms   1.4%    1750.54 Mbps   5.51 Mbps      China Telecom JiangSu 5G - Nanjing
     Hong Kong, CN    FAILED
     Singapore, SG    1.67 ms     0.0%    2455.34 Mbps   6946.48 Mbps   i3D.net - Singapore
     Jakarta, ID      FAILED - IP has been rate limited. Try again after 1 hour.                             
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Avg DL Speed       : 3554.07 Mbps
     Avg UL Speed       : 1100.02 Mbps
    
     Total DL Data      : 125.36 GB
     Total UL Data      : 25.90 GB
     Total Data         : 151.27 GB
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Duration           : 13 min 18 sec
     System Time        : 16/12/2024 - 14:13:56 UTC
     Total Script Runs  : 92028
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Result             : https://result.nws.sh/r/1734357092_P0Z969_GLOBAL.txt
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
  • Any YABS of higher plans ? Wondering if they put different IO limits by each plan..

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  • @amarc said:
    Any YABS of higher plans ? Wondering if they put different IO limits by each plan..

    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4169390/#Comment_4169390

  • @amarc said:
    Any YABS of higher plans ? Wondering if they put different IO limits by each plan..

    Disk speed seems a lot slower compared to the previous Yabs here https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/comment/4169480/#Comment_4169480

  • niknik Member, Host Rep

    Additional traffic is 0,05 EUR / GB for the Volume network and no Floating IPs for Public Cloud or VPS. I can't imagine no one on their Public Cloud is in need of a Floating IP ? ? ?

  • The KYC is a lot just for sign up for vps. Very sad

  • @LightBlade said:
    The KYC is a lot just for sign up for vps. Very sad

    They rejected my order saying:

    Leaseweb offers B2B (Business-to-business) services only, which means that we are unable to proceed with accounts for personal use.

    Why they did not mentioned it on https://www.leaseweb.com/en/products-services/cloud/virtual-private-server
    :(

  • niknik Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2024

    Just wanted to give some additional feedback:

    Steal across all my instances is 20-30% now, so those nodes are heavily oversold. Disk became way slower (limited to 150 MB/s now, instead of 250 MB/s like some days ago). There was an "emergancy maintenance" earlier today that brought down all my VPS instances at the same time for around 10 minutes.

    What I don't understand is those VPS have a lot of potential with better disk speeds, but for me reliability is the #1 priority and not price. I know we are on LET but I would rather pay more (e.g. Hetzner Pricing) but have reliable services, so those Leaseweb VMs are sadly unusable for now.

    The only pro I have for those VPS is that you can push > 5 Gbps without issues and the Volume Network is not as bad as I originally thought. So the networking performance is quite good actually.

    Support is responding quite fast as well. Leaseweb has all the potential to deliver a great product (network, platform, etc.) but reliability is not there, not even for their Public Cloud, which is quite expensive but has the same disk limits. Which is a shame :neutral:

  • @nik said:
    Additional traffic is 0,05 EUR / GB for the Volume network and no Floating IPs for Public Cloud or VPS. I can't imagine no one on their Public Cloud is in need of a Floating IP ? ? ?

    Contracts state the following:
    Singapore:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,01094 S$ / GB

    Frankfurt:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,00136 € / GB

    Amsterdam:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,00136 € / GB

    With that said, I see no steal on any of my VMs in SG, DE or NL.

    Disk IO also remains the same as initial benchmark:


    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2): --------------------------------- Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 100.16 MB/s (25.0k) | 249.95 MB/s (3.9k) Write | 100.43 MB/s (25.1k) | 251.27 MB/s (3.9k) Total | 200.59 MB/s (50.1k) | 501.23 MB/s (7.8k) | | Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 81.73 MB/s (159) | 242.82 MB/s (237) Write | 86.07 MB/s (168) | 259.00 MB/s (252) Total | 167.81 MB/s (327) | 501.83 MB/s (489)
  • have windows template eol or not?

  • niknik Member, Host Rep

    @Zerpy said:

    @nik said:
    Additional traffic is 0,05 EUR / GB for the Volume network and no Floating IPs for Public Cloud or VPS. I can't imagine no one on their Public Cloud is in need of a Floating IP ? ? ?

    Contracts state the following:
    Singapore:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,01094 S$ / GB

    Frankfurt:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,00136 € / GB

    Amsterdam:
    OVERUSAGE: Data traffic: 0,00136 € / GB

    With that said, I see no steal on any of my VMs in SG, DE or NL.

    Disk IO also remains the same as initial benchmark:


    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2): --------------------------------- Block Size | 4k (IOPS) | 64k (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 100.16 MB/s (25.0k) | 249.95 MB/s (3.9k) Write | 100.43 MB/s (25.1k) | 251.27 MB/s (3.9k) Total | 200.59 MB/s (50.1k) | 501.23 MB/s (7.8k) | | Block Size | 512k (IOPS) | 1m (IOPS) ------ | --- ---- | ---- ---- Read | 81.73 MB/s (159) | 242.82 MB/s (237) Write | 86.07 MB/s (168) | 259.00 MB/s (252) Total | 167.81 MB/s (327) | 501.83 MB/s (489)

    When did you create/order those VPS?

    Did you stress the CPU when looking for steal? When I am utilizing all threads it spikes up to 30% steal.

  • niknik Member, Host Rep

    This is what my VPS in WDC looks like right now:

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/sda2):
    ---------------------------------
    Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 94.23 MB/s   (23.5k) | 239.23 MB/s   (3.7k)
    Write      | 94.48 MB/s   (23.6k) | 240.49 MB/s   (3.7k)
    Total      | 188.72 MB/s  (47.1k) | 479.73 MB/s   (7.4k)
               |                      |                     
    Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
      ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ---- 
    Read       | 83.48 MB/s     (163) | 86.46 MB/s      (84)
    Write      | 87.91 MB/s     (171) | 92.22 MB/s      (90)
    Total      | 171.39 MB/s    (334) | 178.69 MB/s    (174)
    
  • @maxexx said:

    @LightBlade said:
    The KYC is a lot just for sign up for vps. Very sad

    They rejected my order saying:

    Leaseweb offers B2B (Business-to-business) services only, which means that we are unable to proceed with accounts for personal use.

    Why they did not mentioned it on https://www.leaseweb.com/en/products-services/cloud/virtual-private-server
    :(

    Leaseweb has been B2B for a while. I guess it was mostly to avoid honoring the 14 day cooldown period for online products in Europe.

  • @nik said:
    When did you create/order those VPS?

    On the day they launched the new generation VPS's, delivered same day.

    @nik said:
    Did you stress the CPU when looking for steal? When I am utilizing all threads it spikes up to 30% steal.

    Yes, occasionally jumps to 4-5% for a bit, and then drops down. Almost if that's expected in a shared platform, without dedicated CPU allocations, and an over-provisioning factor of 3x or greater.

  • niknik Member, Host Rep
    edited December 2024

    @Zerpy said:

    @nik said:
    When did you create/order those VPS?

    On the day they launched the new generation VPS's, delivered same day.

    @nik said:
    Did you stress the CPU when looking for steal? When I am utilizing all threads it spikes up to 30% steal.

    Yes, occasionally jumps to 4-5% for a bit, and then drops down. Almost if that's expected in a shared platform, without dedicated CPU allocations, and an over-provisioning factor of 3x or greater.

    Well, I never experienced something like 20-30% steal constantly with another provider. I have it on all my nodes (>10), in all regions I have nodes (4). I know this is a shared medium, but 20-30% is a lot. Not even the OVH VPS are as bad from a steal perspective.

  • Some time ago, I asked for ipv6 to be used on a new vps package that they had just launched. Then they gave me /112 to my vps, but this ipv6 could not work properly. In the end they said that ipv6 was not supported on this vps package, and they took back this ipv6.

    It seems that the menu button to mount the Acronis / GRML recovery iso also does not work properly. This never happened on the management panel menu for the old vps package (GP VPS instance).

    But at least in my opinion there are still many other advantages of this new vps package, even for its lowest package:

    • Increased number of vcpu cores, 4 vcpu vs 1 vcpu on gp micro
    • larger ram, 6 gb vs 1 gb on gp micro
    • better disk i/o performance
    • large bandwidth/ traffic allocation
    • cheap price, at least for the SIN location
  • @nik said:
    Just wanted to give some additional feedback:

    Steal across all my instances is 20-30% now, so those nodes are heavily oversold. Disk became way slower (limited to 150 MB/s now, instead of 250 MB/s like some days ago). There was an "emergancy maintenance" earlier today that brought down all my VPS instances at the same time for around 10 minutes.

    What I don't understand is those VPS have a lot of potential with better disk speeds, but for me reliability is the #1 priority and not price. I know we are on LET but I would rather pay more (e.g. Hetzner Pricing) but have reliable services, so those Leaseweb VMs are sadly unusable for now.

    The only pro I have for those VPS is that you can push > 5 Gbps without issues and the Volume Network is not as bad as I originally thought. So the networking performance is quite good actually.

    Support is responding quite fast as well. Leaseweb has all the potential to deliver a great product (network, platform, etc.) but reliability is not there, not even for their Public Cloud, which is quite expensive but has the same disk limits. Which is a shame :neutral:

    How to measure steal from host? Tool or approach would help. I was interested in large plan 48 GB (?), postponed, plan to take up a dedicated server instead.

  • wanna buy vps2 how how?

  • @HostDZire how can i buy

  • niknik Member, Host Rep

    @gks said:

    @nik said:
    Just wanted to give some additional feedback:

    Steal across all my instances is 20-30% now, so those nodes are heavily oversold. Disk became way slower (limited to 150 MB/s now, instead of 250 MB/s like some days ago). There was an "emergancy maintenance" earlier today that brought down all my VPS instances at the same time for around 10 minutes.

    What I don't understand is those VPS have a lot of potential with better disk speeds, but for me reliability is the #1 priority and not price. I know we are on LET but I would rather pay more (e.g. Hetzner Pricing) but have reliable services, so those Leaseweb VMs are sadly unusable for now.

    The only pro I have for those VPS is that you can push > 5 Gbps without issues and the Volume Network is not as bad as I originally thought. So the networking performance is quite good actually.

    Support is responding quite fast as well. Leaseweb has all the potential to deliver a great product (network, platform, etc.) but reliability is not there, not even for their Public Cloud, which is quite expensive but has the same disk limits. Which is a shame :neutral:

    How to measure steal from host? Tool or approach would help. I was interested in large plan 48 GB (?), postponed, plan to take up a dedicated server instead.

    You can simply run top/htop to look into the "st" value. It tells you how much steal there is. I never experienced a provider running his VPS setup at 20-30% steal ALL the time. Those nodes must be packed. Even OVH has a max. of 5% steal for me on some older EPYC VPS.

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  • nice

  • I skipped leaseweb offer. Strict to oracle free cloud, many vps providers offers here.

    Thanks @nik . I will check those values.

  • Anyone resell this vps leaseweb?

  • Waiting for a reseller for this

  • Yes, I find it cheap too. However, it seems to be for businesses only, not individuals.

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