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IRC in 2024!?

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  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    @totally_not_banned said: the optimal situation would be to combine both angles

    That's right! Maybe even more optimal would be to consider "all" angles. :)

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  • kofanykofany Member

    Lot of us are back on IRCnet https://ircnet.info - here are servers and active users.

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  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    @kofany said:
    Lot of us are back on IRCnet https://ircnet.info - here are servers and active users.

    From https://www.ircnet.info/servers it looks like most every server there is using ircd2.11.2p3.

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited March 20

    @Not_Oles said: From https://www.ircnet.info/servers it looks like most every server there is using ircd2.11.2p3.

    Historically looking that's the original IRCd in some way. IRCnet equivalent of later EFnet ircd-ratbox.
    Subpar to what InspIRCd and UnrealIRCd can offer today... but still part of a history.

    Some interesting reading to get the context: https://www.mirc.com/split.html
    (I was there!)

    And maybe, as we like drama, also: http://www.irc.org/history_docs/m_lawrie.html
    :

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  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @Mumbly said: (I was there!)

    Same.

    Days when #mp3 and #worldchat was a thing and when #sesso or #italia were the most "colorful" channels around :smiley:

    Thanked by 2Mumbly Not_Oles
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited March 20

    Don't tell... :D

    • [19:44] xy has joined...
    • [19:44] Ciao a tutti! (in colours!)
    • [19:45] Quit ("leaving")

    And then also all this: https://ntd01.fortunecity.ws/ ... a lot of that.

    Thanked by 2Not_Oles DP
  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy
    edited March 20

    @Mumbly said: And then also all this: https://ntd01.fortunecity.ws/ ... a lot of that.

    I miss those days, and also those guys.

    TRiBE, Warlords and X-Org ;)

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited March 20

    @DP said: TRiBE, Warlords and X-Org

    Ace24, Danny-Boy (he was arrested), t0rn, Markland, Outlaw, etc... :)

    Oh, and do you remember old https://www.ii2.org/ - IRCnet "facebook" before Facebook existed? :)

    https://web.archive.org/web/20050728104701/http://www.ii2.org/list.php?m=registered&char=A&countryid=1

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  • DPDP Administrator, The Domain Guy

    @Mumbly said: Oh, and do you remember old https://www.ii2.org/ - IRCnet "facebook" before Facebook existed? :)

    Oh, I don't recognize or recall that, at all :smiley:

    We were mostly just in #chatlords, and whatever other private channels each of them had created since some people and groups didn't "click", won't and can't be seen together :smiley:

    Then some left, probably got arrested, moved to other networks, and so to keep in touch with most of them, you'll need to be on all, including IRCS/SILC.

    Thanked by 2Mumbly Not_Oles
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited March 20

    Going through those familiar nicks (for my country, not Finland) https://web.archive.org/web/20050728104701/http://www.ii2.org/list.php?m=registered&char=A&countryid=1 I am sentimental now... :)

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    Been messing with the nice IRC client from https://c9x.me/irc/.

    What happens seems that I successfully connect to Libera in mode +Ziw, but it doesn't work to enter any commands. For example, if I enter "/join #libera" nothing happens. Also nothing happens if I enter "/quit."

    Here is what I am seeing. What is my mistake?

    [irc.libera.chat] 
19:15 -  
19:15 - Use of Libera Chat is governed by our network policies.
19:15 -  
19:15 - To reduce network abuses we perform open proxy checks
19:15 - on hosts at connection time.
19:15 -  
19:15 - Please visit us in #libera for questions and support.
19:15 -  
19:15 - Website and documentation:  https://libera.chat
19:15 - Webchat:                    https://web.libera.chat
19:15 - Network policies:           https://libera.chat/policies
19:15 - Email:                      [email protected]
19:15 End of /MOTD command.
19:15 MODE - Not_Oles +Ziw
19:15 This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg
                       NickServ IDENTIFY Not_Oles <password>
19:15 You are now identified for Not_Oles.
19:15 Last login from: ~bashvm@$IPv6_REDACTED on Mar 20 05:30:51 2024 +0000.
19:15 900 - Not_Oles You are now logged in as Not_Oles
19:15 396 - Not_Oles is now your hidden host (set by services.)
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    Got it!

    [irc.libera.chat] [#libera] 
22:46 -!- Not_Oles has joined #libera
  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    Just went by ctrl-c.club and found scrollz.

    Also looked at all the Debian packages for weechat.

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider
    edited March 28 
    * Not_Oles Checks for UTF-8: 🍔
> Looks like UTF-8 is working! 
> Using ircii, if I set NOVICE off, I can join a second channel without disconnecting from the
+first channel.
*** Signoff: takotonary ()
> But then, it seems I am talking on the second channel.
*** davlgd (~davlgd@user/davlgd) has joined channel #libera
> How do I talk on the first channel? Do I join the first channel again?

    Okay, looks like there is /BIND and /WINDOW. :)

  • fatchanfatchan Member

    ircd: inspircd
    services: atheme
    client/bouncer: weechat

    Still run an IRC server, and it has a webchat, mostly used for people who ask questions about my open source projects. IRC is good for that, especially webchat since you dont need a client or any account, etc to just come and chat quickly.

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  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    A quick update from IRC

    This morning, #philosophy was destroyed!

    *** krb (~krb@gateway/vpn/pia/krb) has joined channel #libera
<krb:#libera> hi, someone just came and destroyed #philosophy 
<krb:#libera> turned it into a redirect channel
<thumbs:#libera> krb: It forwards to ##philosophy
<thumbs:#libera> (which looks like the proper namespace for it)
<krb:#libera> no one of us users of the channel consented to that
<louipc:#libera> it's not a democracy
<krb:#libera> since i'm banned in ##philosophy it doesn't help me either

    I've been messing more with ircii. Trying multiple windows, different shell variables, command line flags, and configuration settings, configure with and without -DEBUG, different pre-compile config.h settings, UTF-8 and ISO-8859-1, using ircii with and without tmux, multiple windows, and logging.

    I haven't found an active #ircii channel. There are a couple of websites, but no mailing list that I have seen. The most recent source update seems to be 20240111.

    There is an extension of ircii called ScrollZ (see also Github repo) I looked briefly at the source code. It seems obvious from the website and from the sources that the guys involved with ScrollZ were having a great time. But, ScrollZ seems quiet for the last three years. Like #ircii, I couldn't find an active #scrollz channel. Even the officially designated EFnet #scrollz channel doesn't seem to exist any more. Again like ircii, no ScrollZ mailing list.

    If anybody knows where to find current activity related to ircii and/or ScrollZ, please tell me.

    Besides ircii and ScrollZ, I've looked at c9x.me's IRC client, ii from suckless, Susam's nice post about accessing IRC with netcat and with the openssl s_client, irssi, weechat, mcpcpc's clients, and others. As mentioned above, I briefly looked at a few servers. Last but not least, I have the IRC RFC 1459 open and still want to skim though it.

    Lots of fun! :)

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    A few more bits about ScrollZ in case anyone might be interested:

  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    For MetalVPS I decided to use the IRC servers of the kind folks at Libera for a while. Does my first effort at setting up a channel seem okay? Thanks!

    # Registered #metalvps
18: /msg ChanServ INFO #metalvps
-> *ChanServ* INFO #metalvps
-ChanServ- #metalvps is not registered.
19: /join #metalvps
*** Not_Oles (~bashvm@user/Not-Oles/x-9034114) has joined channel #metalvps
*** Mode change "+Cnst" on channel #metalvps by tungsten.libera.chat
*** #metalvps 1712084626
20: /who *
#metalvps  Not_Oles  H@  ~bashvm@user/Not-Oles/x-9034114 (Tom)
21: /msg ChanServ REGISTER #metalvps
-> *ChanServ* REGISTER #metalvps
-ChanServ- #metalvps is now registered to Not_Oles.
23: /mode #metalvps +r
*** Mode change "+r" on channel #metalvps by Not_Oles
25: /help topic
26: /topic #metalvps MetalVPS.com | VPS and bare metal servers for open source education and fun.
+| Not for business use.
*** Not_Oles has changed the topic on channel #metalvps to MetalVPS.com | VPS and bare metal 
+servers for open source education and fun. | Not for business use.
28: /mode #metalvps -s
*** Mode change "-s" on channel #metalvps by Not_Oles
  • shruubshruub Member

    @Not_Oles said:
    For MetalVPS I decided to use the IRC servers of the kind folks at Libera for a while. Does my first effort at setting up a channel seem okay? Thanks!

    # Registered #metalvps
18: /msg ChanServ INFO #metalvps
-> *ChanServ* INFO #metalvps
-ChanServ- #metalvps is not registered.
19: /join #metalvps
*** Not_Oles (~bashvm@user/Not-Oles/x-9034114) has joined channel #metalvps
*** Mode change "+Cnst" on channel #metalvps by tungsten.libera.chat
*** #metalvps 1712084626
20: /who *
#metalvps  Not_Oles  H@  ~bashvm@user/Not-Oles/x-9034114 (Tom)
21: /msg ChanServ REGISTER #metalvps
-> *ChanServ* REGISTER #metalvps
-ChanServ- #metalvps is now registered to Not_Oles.
23: /mode #metalvps +r
*** Mode change "+r" on channel #metalvps by Not_Oles
25: /help topic
26: /topic #metalvps MetalVPS.com | VPS and bare metal servers for open source education and fun.
+| Not for business use.
*** Not_Oles has changed the topic on channel #metalvps to MetalVPS.com | VPS and bare metal 
+servers for open source education and fun. | Not for business use.
28: /mode #metalvps -s
*** Mode change "-s" on channel #metalvps by Not_Oles

    LGTM.

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  • Not_OlesNot_Oles Moderator, Patron Provider

    A couple guys have joined #metalvps at Libera! Thanks guys!

  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited April 5

    @Not_Oles said: A couple guys have joined #metalvps at Libera! Thanks guys!

    #metalvps Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be logged into your NickServ account

    Not everyone is registered at IRC :P

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    i would join. screen + irssi + fish

    old school!

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  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Mumbly said:

    @boot said:
    debian + znc + guake + irssi

    Without screen? :)

    installed mirc right now. have a license from 2008 :)

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  • hyperblasthyperblast Member
    edited April 5 
    #metalvps unable to join channel (not using registered nick)

    @Not_Oles

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  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    the oles eh old days... https://bitchx.sourceforge.net/author/caf.html

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  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited April 5

    @hyperblast said: have a license from 2008

    No you don't :P
    This fine gentleman Khaled Mardam-Bey discontinued all lifetime license agreements two years ago :P

    Btw. pnp4.22 https://github.com/peace-and-protection/Peace-and-Protection/wiki - to this date still the best actively managed mIRC scrip without suspicious addons

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    @Mumbly said:

    @hyperblast said: have a license from 2008

    No you don't :P
    This fine gentleman Khaled Mardam-Bey discontinued all lifetime license agreements two years ago :P

    Btw. pnp4.22 https://github.com/peace-and-protection/Peace-and-Protection/wiki - to this date still the best actively managed mIRC scrip without suspicious addons

    häh?

    https://www.mirc.com/register.html

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  • MumblyMumbly Member

    @hyperblast said:

    @Mumbly said:

    @hyperblast said: have a license from 2008

    No you don't :P
    This fine gentleman Khaled Mardam-Bey discontinued all lifetime license agreements two years ago :P

    Btw. pnp4.22 https://github.com/peace-and-protection/Peace-and-Protection/wiki - to this date still the best actively managed mIRC scrip without suspicious addons

    häh?

    https://www.mirc.com/register.html

    https://www.pocnetwork.net/internet-news/mirc-ended-its-lifetime-license-agreement-with-all-who-purchased-its-software-10-years-out/
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33864660
    https://www.reddit.com/r/irc/comments/h9i42p/mirc_registration_expired/

    My "lifetime" license expired as well.

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  • hyperblasthyperblast Member

    ok. then no more mirc. screen + irssi now!

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
  • MumblyMumbly Member
    edited April 5

    @hyperblast said:
    ok. then no more mirc. screen + irssi now!

    Good user friendly free mIRC alternative may be HexChat. Project was discontinued this year (final version was released in February 2024) but still...

    Thanked by 1Not_Oles
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