mxroute alternative - must be in EU

hyperblast

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

ascicode

@hyperblast said:

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

inleed.xyz

emgh

@hyperblast said: we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

We do!

emgh

@hyperblast said:

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

You can get .se first year for about $1 with a secret trick

mohahahaha

emgh

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

inleed.xyz

abc.xyz

JosephF

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

You can get .se first year for about $1 with a secret trick

mohahahaha

You can get .com for about $1 for the first year, too, without any tricks.

emgh

@JosephF said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@ascicode said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

with a $1 domain?

$1/y for .se/.io? yep!

You can get .se first year for about $1 with a secret trick

mohahahaha

You can get .com for about $1 for the first year, too, without any tricks.

Yes, but competition is a bit different

jlet88

@emgh said:

@jlet88 said: Is the Inleed business model sustainable?

Yup - https://www.allabolag.se/5569316788/yelles-ab

Been in business since 2013, profit margin 12%, gross profit margin 85%, numbers look pretty good and stable over time. No immediate red flags that I can see so far. Looks like a diverse product offering, "free" email is definitely not their core business model.

@emgh said: Small inbox size. Not sure otherwise. It's been a long time since I used them for hosting. I'm just a happy domain client

There have to be additional limits in terms of quotas, outgoing emails per day, etc... but otherwise it seems like a decent offering. I wouldn't use "free" email because I would always be wondering what other catch there is, especially for business, but I'd be open to trying their paid services some time.

@rcy026 said: But personally, as good as Inleed seems, I actually value my email and would not use a free service to host it. For testing and playing around, sure. For business, no.

Agreed, for business, definitely not a free service. But paid services, worth considering IMO.

Inleed is looking very legit to me, I'm putting them on my list to try them out in the future. Thanks for the heads up about these guys.

emgh

@jlet88 said: Inleed is looking very legit to me, I'm putting them on my list to try them out in the future. Thanks for the heads up about these guys.

As said, support is amazing.

hyperblast

@emgh said:

@jlet88 said: Inleed is looking very legit to me, I'm putting them on my list to try them out in the future. Thanks for the heads up about these guys.

As said, support is amazing.

confirm!

gbzret4d

Thanks for all the mentions. Colleague told me he found a solution.

gbzret4d

Im personally trying inleed now. @emgh thanks for the first mention of inleed

emgh

@gbzret4d said:
Im personally trying inleed now. @emgh thanks for the first mention of inleed

Nice!

hyperblast

@gbzret4d said:
Thanks for all the mentions. Colleague told me he found a solution.

will you share the solution that helped you?

kvz12

@jlet88 said:

@emgh said:

@jlet88 said: Is the Inleed business model sustainable?

Yup - https://www.allabolag.se/5569316788/yelles-ab

Been in business since 2013, profit margin 12%, gross profit margin 85%, numbers look pretty good and stable over time. No immediate red flags that I can see so far. Looks like a diverse product offering, "free" email is definitely not their core business model.

@emgh said: Small inbox size. Not sure otherwise. It's been a long time since I used them for hosting. I'm just a happy domain client

There have to be additional limits in terms of quotas, outgoing emails per day, etc... but otherwise it seems like a decent offering. I wouldn't use "free" email because I would always be wondering what other catch there is, especially for business, but I'd be open to trying their paid services some time.

@rcy026 said: But personally, as good as Inleed seems, I actually value my email and would not use a free service to host it. For testing and playing around, sure. For business, no.

Agreed, for business, definitely not a free service. But paid services, worth considering IMO.

Inleed is looking very legit to me, I'm putting them on my list to try them out in the future. Thanks for the heads up about these guys.

For their free service at least, they leak source IP in headers when using an external email client (ie Thunderbird). Doesn't affect their webmail though. Could have changed since I last used them.

gbzret4d

@hyperblast said:

@gbzret4d said:
Thanks for all the mentions. Colleague told me he found a solution.

will you share the solution that helped you?

Collague switched to https://www.ionos.at/office-loesungen/email-archivierung
Hes also in contact with https://timewarp.at/en/email-archiving-cloud-service/

Im personally trying inleed atm

chiccorosso

Where in Europe?

raindog308

@totally_not_banned said: I wonder if the law clearly defines what a backup is. Is cp -R * /tmp a backup?

/tmp is Total Mail Protection, right?

emgh

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

I asked them btw, they didn't really see the point of doing that as they don't run any custom offers. They have their advertised pricing and that's it. Understandable IMO.

gbzret4d

@chiccorosso said:
Where in Europe?

European union, not europe

gbzret4d

@kvz12 said:

@jlet88 said:

@emgh said:

@jlet88 said: Is the Inleed business model sustainable?

Yup - https://www.allabolag.se/5569316788/yelles-ab

Been in business since 2013, profit margin 12%, gross profit margin 85%, numbers look pretty good and stable over time. No immediate red flags that I can see so far. Looks like a diverse product offering, "free" email is definitely not their core business model.

@emgh said: Small inbox size. Not sure otherwise. It's been a long time since I used them for hosting. I'm just a happy domain client

There have to be additional limits in terms of quotas, outgoing emails per day, etc... but otherwise it seems like a decent offering. I wouldn't use "free" email because I would always be wondering what other catch there is, especially for business, but I'd be open to trying their paid services some time.

@rcy026 said: But personally, as good as Inleed seems, I actually value my email and would not use a free service to host it. For testing and playing around, sure. For business, no.

Agreed, for business, definitely not a free service. But paid services, worth considering IMO.

Inleed is looking very legit to me, I'm putting them on my list to try them out in the future. Thanks for the heads up about these guys.

For their free service at least, they leak source IP in headers when using an external email client (ie Thunderbird). Doesn't affect their webmail though. Could have changed since I last used them.

Use a proxy in thunderbird so it only leaks your proxies ip

listerine90

@emgh said:
https://inleed.se/webbhotell

Is the ssd storage linked to how much emails you can store?
And can you run the email hosting service without having to use the webhosting service? since my domain is pointing to a different ns already.

emgh

@listerine90 said:

@emgh said:
https://inleed.se/webbhotell

Is the ssd storage linked to how much emails you can store?
And can you run the email hosting service without having to use the webhosting service? since my domain is pointing to a different ns already.

I think yes & yes, although I have very little experience with it. I’d recommend confirming with them, they’re super fast at responding. If you’re about UTC in terms of timezone, chat will be online during the day as well.

kait

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

I asked them btw, they didn't really see the point of doing that as they don't run any custom offers. They have their advertised pricing and that's it. Understandable IMO.

Feels like you're their sales person here

emgh

@kait said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

I asked them btw, they didn't really see the point of doing that as they don't run any custom offers. They have their advertised pricing and that's it. Understandable IMO.

Feels like you're their sales person here

Their VPS packages are meh. I think I recall seeing a YABS with calculatorish CPU. Their basic web hosting is (to me) unbearably slow. I’ve heard Premium is better. Looking at Google Maps, I thiiiink that they basically rebuilt a house to be a DC (but not 100 % sure.) – anyway, I’d say it’s not quite at the Portlane level, especially since I imagine most have to route through Stockholm anyway to go anywhrere

I’ve had one bad encounter with their support, but everyone can have a bad day and so I think that’s totally fine

That’s a bit more about my negative experiences, if that helps🕵️‍♂️

As said, now, and for quite some time, I only use them for domains. Nothing else, for emails, I have my iCloud Plus, MXRoute $3/3yr deal & buyshared (mailchannels) anyway. If I used any more email services I’d drown in them

Domains however, I really do enjoy them. Now that you mention it, I should sign up for their affiliate programme..

hyperblast

i use inleed for domains too. works fine so far. was with loopia for ~19 year. but loopia is way to expensive.

kvz12

@emgh said:

@kait said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

I asked them btw, they didn't really see the point of doing that as they don't run any custom offers. They have their advertised pricing and that's it. Understandable IMO.

Feels like you're their sales person here

Their VPS packages are meh. I think I recall seeing a YABS with calculatorish CPU. Their basic web hosting is (to me) unbearably slow. I’ve heard Premium is better. Looking at Google Maps, I thiiiink that they basically rebuilt a house to be a DC (but not 100 % sure.) – anyway, I’d say it’s not quite at the Portlane level, especially since I imagine most have to route through Stockholm anyway to go anywhrere

I’ve had one bad encounter with their support, but everyone can have a bad day and so I think that’s totally fine

That’s a bit more about my negative experiences, if that helps🕵️‍♂️

As said, now, and for quite some time, I only use them for domains. Nothing else, for emails, I have my iCloud Plus, MXRoute $3/3yr deal & buyshared (mailchannels) anyway. If I used any more email services I’d drown in them

Domains however, I really do enjoy them. Now that you mention it, I should sign up for their affiliate programme..

When was the $3/3yr plan with MXroute?

listerine90

@emgh said:
As said, now, and for quite some time, I only use them for domains. Nothing else, for emails, I have my iCloud Plus, MXRoute $3/3yr deal & buyshared (mailchannels) anyway. If I used any more email services I’d drown in them

Currently, I am using cloudflare Email routing to just forward the emails incoming to my domain into my gmail acc, but it can get cluttery and messy if many emails get mixed up coming from various domains, and it'd be nice to actually have a dedicated email hosting on my domain.

MXRoute so far is the only compelling choice, I am waiting for their $15 triennial deal to get in stock again.

emgh

@kvz12 said:

@emgh said:

@kait said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:

@emgh said:

@hyperblast said:
https://inleed.xyz has no smtp/pop3 correct?

Incorrect

we have to motivate inIeed to become active here, don't we?

I asked them btw, they didn't really see the point of doing that as they don't run any custom offers. They have their advertised pricing and that's it. Understandable IMO.

Feels like you're their sales person here

Their VPS packages are meh. I think I recall seeing a YABS with calculatorish CPU. Their basic web hosting is (to me) unbearably slow. I’ve heard Premium is better. Looking at Google Maps, I thiiiink that they basically rebuilt a house to be a DC (but not 100 % sure.) – anyway, I’d say it’s not quite at the Portlane level, especially since I imagine most have to route through Stockholm anyway to go anywhrere

I’ve had one bad encounter with their support, but everyone can have a bad day and so I think that’s totally fine

That’s a bit more about my negative experiences, if that helps🕵️‍♂️

As said, now, and for quite some time, I only use them for domains. Nothing else, for emails, I have my iCloud Plus, MXRoute $3/3yr deal & buyshared (mailchannels) anyway. If I used any more email services I’d drown in them

Domains however, I really do enjoy them. Now that you mention it, I should sign up for their affiliate programme..

When was the $3/3yr plan with MXroute?

Last black friday

xx00xx

https://goneo.de/email/email.html they are part of MK Netzdienste and have their own DC