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Maybe the addon to rules is so big and complex that it requires multiple human and AI collaboration hours to compile ultimate result.
'R' in Rules is for Rust - this is why it takes so long to compile
So is that/this an example of "Do it right or do it again." The bible has been written and rewritten many times, translated and re-translated because it wasn't translated correctly?
I one is not a robot but a living being but occasionally identifies oneself as a robot would that be O.K.? * asking for my cat
Re the topic: AFAIK most admins and mods are doing what they do here for free, so it's not as simple as "bring all of them into the meeting room and then have the secretary type what has been decided".
Also: I see it as a major positive that @jbiloh doesn't simply dictate his will but has the whole team discuss the issue. And that takes time, so what?
This is not a concern most here are afraid of:
Well, sadly, it's something that most people tend (or choose?) to forget that this is all voluntary "work".
Considering the diverse time zones and individual obligations/commitments, I can't simply force everyone to read a wall of text, have them think about it and provide feedback or even to just respond within a specific deadline.
Also, on the other hand, I don't see an issue with the OP unpinning a discussion he started himself, which was just for him to send out a note/message to the community.
If the community is concerned about this thread being unpinned and that we might "forget" about this, well, I'm telling you we wont, because I have another topic opened and pinned for all mods and admins.
I wonder, if I may ask, what happens to the revenue through ads and provider tags? Of course a part goes to Digitalocean, but I'd suppose there's still quite a margin.
They are not obligated by anything to do that job for free, or to do anything at all. They made a willing choice as free people. They are not bound or forced.
So "they are doing this for free" does not cut the cookie. If they feel discomfort -> log out.
Seems rotation of admins/mods are very rare (if any at all), since JB took the helm.
Great. Now this could take even longer.
Great. Now we might never see any changes because I don't feel any mods will ever feel the pleasure of comfort when logging and moderating on LET
Well that's precisely the concern - we (obviously) don't see admin threads, so when the topic is unpinned and allowed to drift off the front page, as we can see is the topic disappearing without resolution.
If it's still under active debate, fair enough. Take as much time as you need; like you say, getting a random array of volunteers to agree something will take time. I just don't see what trying to let it sink in the meantime achieves, other than causing cynical folk to wonder if y'all are just trying to quietly forget it.
The fact is, this thread really only picked up again once it got unpinned. Why not pin it until it's resolved?
I'm not going to answer on behalf of the OP, but if I had to guess, he probably unpinned it because of the spamming from you-know-who.
Anyways, a few pages back, he did mention that once this is finalized, it will be updated in either the rules page, or in a new thread.
I'm sorry but I'll let @jbiloh answer that as he's the one who created this thread, he was the one who pinned it and he was probably the one who also unpinned it.
To be fair, I shitposted more after the unpinning than before.
I'm not at all concerned about it, quite the contrary, I do understand it and find it OK. (see below)
Thanks for effectively underlining my point. Asking people who work for free to think about some dictum and to then constructively comment - and pronto, please! - just does not work.
Also, 'quickly' and 'well' often don't go together well. I see it as a sign of quality that @jbiloh, the admins, and mods take the time needed to find a good solution.
Well, everyone is free to have their own view and interpretation. Mine is that jbiloh pinned it at first to make sure that everyone, in particular the admins and mods, notice that there is an issue to be thought about and to comment on, make suggestions, etc. Once everyone concerned had seen and noticed it and the internal process was in progress pinning wasn't needed anymore and (I guess) there was and is an internal thread in the admin/mod forum where comments and suggestions came in and were/are discussed, so why using up valuable space on the front page any longer ...
P.S. @DP
I have a suggestion: how about creating (if possible in Vanilla) two "pseudo accounts" like '@admins' and '@mods' that tags all the admins, resp, all the mods?
The trouble is that saying "we're totally going to finish writing this new rule soon, honest" and then silently unpinning the topic can appear, to grumpy cynics, to be an attempt to make an awkward subject go away.
Cue lots of idiotic shitposting to keep the unpinned topic on the front page, which was painfully predictable.
At the end of the day it's jbiloh's ball and he can play it however he wants. Just the switch from "this is such a big issue it needs a big shouty pin" to "umm, yeah, we're definitely still thinking about it" felt jarring.
But hey, I wouldn't wish running (or moderating) a community on my worst enemy, so I'll quit the bump game and wait quietly to see if anything changes.
A bump to remind about unfinished business on “uncomfortable subject”.
POINTLESS BUMP
Francisco
Smokey gets banned like in microseconds these days
Let’s double the exposure.
Your waiting time has doubled for the order #POINTLESS BUMP.
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Soundar
smokah the mental issue boi
Bump
Welcome to spring!
Ou, reached a third page already. Silently
. But let’s bump it. Keep everything tight and nice.
Or lock?
Great! Lock it up on top to keep reminding spammers and bots of their activities.
This is still very important topic. Bumperino.
I'm sure the rule is in it's near-to final form.
It just needs the finalization of finalization
Like half or even a whole year of finale…
Damn this topic is slippery. Slides out from first page very quickly...