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What do you guys think of contabo?

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  • @BasToTheMax said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers, I've seen hosts resell contabo and when did I complain?

    Contabo has a lot of cpu steal

    ya I can agree with that.

  • @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

  • @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

  • Iam running several Contabo servers, if you don't mind they go offline sometimes for an hour or so, you good to go support is not existing, I haven't found a better deal yet, maybe only the $1 IONOS Vps but it's not for Minecraft or gaming

    Thanked by 1ArrowBoi
  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited December 2023

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    Ovh speeds sucks major even Contabo is better

  • @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

  • @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

  • @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    Still it's not 2010 bandwidth should be 1G port especially for such a big company

    Thanked by 1PineappleM
  • AXYZEAXYZE Member
    edited December 2023

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    Thanked by 3loay BasToTheMax emgh
  • Maybe this is something for you:

    https://oneprovider.com/configure/dediconf/48

    Think this is een online.net server with 1gbit line and dedicated

  • @WhiteRoseG said:
    Maybe this is something for you:

    https://oneprovider.com/configure/dediconf/48

    Think this is een online.net server with 1gbit line and dedicated

    Did you just recommend Atom CPU + 8GB RAM instead of 3.5x faster Xeon v2 and 32GB of RAM... because it has 1Gbps unmetered?

    100Mbit is enough to stream 40x 1080p YouTube videos AT THE SAME TIME, yet you say its not enough for game server that just exchanges coordinates with players.
    This Atom CPU will completly fall apart before he would use even 40Mbit in Minecraft.

  • WhiteRoseGWhiteRoseG Member
    edited December 2023

    @AXYZE said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    Maybe this is something for you:

    https://oneprovider.com/configure/dediconf/48

    Think this is een online.net server with 1gbit line and dedicated

    Did you just recommend Atom CPU + 8GB RAM instead of 3.5x faster Xeon v2 and 32GB of RAM... because it has 1Gbps unmetered?

    100Mbit is enough to stream 40x 1080p YouTube videos AT THE SAME TIME, yet you say its not enough for game server that just exchanges coordinates with players.
    This Atom CPU will completly fall apart before he would use even 40Mbit in Minecraft.

    I dunno what his game requirements are, Iam just talking about the line speed, you can find more deals there with better CPU. 100mbit is not from this time

  • @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

  • @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    Thanked by 2BasToTheMax ArrowBoi
  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    I see, well what do you think of reselling minecraft hosting with ddr3 dedi? I'm guessing it would be quite slow?
    I'm just a bit afraid cuz I don't want it to to suddenly fail on me.

  • jsgjsg Member, Resident Benchmarker

    @ArrowBoi

    I don't know (nor care) much about game servers but I do know that I don't like relatively new users basically spamming the LET front page with lots of threads that usually treat us LET users as if we existed to serve as your private advisor on whatever happens to cross your mind and to help you out when you're bored.

    And I know that I don't like threads like "What do you guys think of [some provider]? when actually you have a more concrete question ("for minecraft") - and I have the feeling that the reason for that is your own questions don't have enough value for you to deserve an adequate title.

    Re. you rather mindless question @AXYZE already was kind enough to answer it better than it deserves.

  • @jsg said:
    @ArrowBoi

    I don't know (nor care) much about game servers but I do know that I don't like relatively new users basically spamming the LET front page with lots of threads that usually treat us LET users as if we existed to serve as your private advisor on whatever happens to cross your mind and to help you out when you're bored.

    And I know that I don't like threads like "What do you guys think of [some provider]? when actually you have a more concrete question ("for minecraft") - and I have the feeling that the reason for that is your own questions don't have enough value for you to deserve an adequate title.

    Re. you rather mindless question @AXYZE already was kind enough to answer it better than it deserves.

    gosh chill out, no need to be rude.

  • @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    I see, well what do you think of reselling minecraft hosting with ddr3 dedi? I'm guessing it would be quite slow?
    I'm just a bit afraid cuz I don't want it to to suddenly fail on me.

    Why would people not do this themselves ? I don't see any business model in what you suggest.

  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    I see, well what do you think of reselling minecraft hosting with ddr3 dedi? I'm guessing it would be quite slow?
    I'm just a bit afraid cuz I don't want it to to suddenly fail on me.

    Why would people not do this themselves ?

    Hey sorry I don't understand your question, can you rephrase? thank you.

  • @ArrowBoi said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    I see, well what do you think of reselling minecraft hosting with ddr3 dedi? I'm guessing it would be quite slow?
    I'm just a bit afraid cuz I don't want it to to suddenly fail on me.

    Why would people not do this themselves ?

    Hey sorry I don't understand your question, can you rephrase? thank you.

    Why would people not setup Minecraft server themselves ?

  • @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @WhiteRoseG said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said:

    @ArrowBoi said:

    @AXYZE said: For $20-$30 you can get dedicated server with 4 cores and 32GB of RAM. This will be a nice start. Even better if you spend $40 and get 6core & 32/64GB RAM.

    I see but friend where are you getting those prices from lol, OVH and pebblehost are way expensive than what you've just said.

    I get this prices from here.
    Just month ago OVH had 32GB for 14.99Euro, even less than I said
    https://lowendtalk.com/discussion/190227/ovh-kimsufi-sys-black-friday-started/p1

    PebbleHost regular price right now (no sale whatsoever) is $37.49 for 32GB. There was 15% off coupon "LINUS", but sadly it stopped working. Hopefully they will have some sales in January.
    https://pebblehost.com/dedicated/configure?server=275

    Just stick around here and look at sales threads. There's plenty of dedicated servers at low prices.

    pretty sure kimsufi is not ideal for game hosting

    Your original choice was Contabo with no filters at all and oversold nodes xD
    I don't even know what you complain about.

    There's nothing better at low price for game servers.

    contabo can be considered better than kimsufi for running game servers

    xD good luck bro

    whats funny bro, if you see kumsufi Public Bandwidth its only 100 Mbit/s unmetered.

    And why is this a problem?
    Do you want to run 20000 players on 32GB server or what?

    Minecraft is just sending coordinates of players, their actions and updates blocks within chunks. It eats nothing.

    I see

    Example https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-gbps-vs-250mpbs.21435/
    "On 30mbps i was able to fit 350 players with no connection lag."
    "I have 80 players on regularly, we use under 20mpbs at any time."

    100Mbps is a lot for game servers. You dont send images, you dont send video, most of the time you dont even have voice chat. Just XYZ coordinates. It's like small text file, its nothing in terms of size.

    You will eat 32GB RAM quicker than eat 100Mbps. Don't worry about it. Look at ram and processor with no steal.

    CPU steal causes jitter, so players will teleport or miss their shots.

    If website is loaded 20ms slower because of steal you won't even notice it. If game has random 20ms lags all the time it makes awful experience.

    For websites VPSes are excellent, but for gameservers you always see inconsistent performance, especially with cheap VPSes that are oversold.

    ah I see, I understand, thanks.

    Also I was going through the list and found this, what do you think?
    tho its ddr3, I heard ddr3 is wayy worse than ddr4, would it be a problem?

    That's awesome deal!

    Althrough DDR4 is indeed faster than DDR3... with dedicated server you have all DDR3 bandwidth for yourself, no sharing and with VPS you would share it with other customers that use same physical server.

    Because of that DDR4 on VPS is almost always slower than DDR3 on dedicated server.

    I see, well what do you think of reselling minecraft hosting with ddr3 dedi? I'm guessing it would be quite slow?
    I'm just a bit afraid cuz I don't want it to to suddenly fail on me.

    Why would people not do this themselves ?

    Hey sorry I don't understand your question, can you rephrase? thank you.

    Why would people not setup Minecraft server themselves ?

    so you're asking why people won't buy a dedicated server themselfs and setup a minecraft server?
    well first thing is people do not know how to, many people buy servers to host a multiplayer vanilla server to play with their friends, and some people might just not want to go through all the hassle of setting up a dedicated server before working on their minecraft server.

    Its kinda like we're making it ready for them and we'd be providing a proper panel for them aka pterodactyl.io and all they'd do is pay some money and get a ready made minecraft server and they can easily get started.

    This is useful for people who have not dealt with dedicated servers and vps before.

    And ya ofc no one can stop experienced people from buying a dedi themselfs to host their minecraft server if they know how to, I myself bought a vps from advinservers 2-3 months ago to host my minecraft server and have been using it till the present.

  • You are answering the question yourself it's very easy to set this up yourself even in the Hetzner knowledgebase there is guide to set this up in easy steps: https://community.hetzner.com/tutorials/make-a-minecraft-server/

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  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    @WhiteRoseG said:
    You are answering the question yourself it's very easy to set this up yourself even in the Hetzner knowledgebase there is guide to set this up in easy steps: https://community.hetzner.com/tutorials/make-a-minecraft-server/

    its not easy to setup, a single mistake while installing pterodactyl.io by an inexperienced user can result in needing to reinstall the vps.

    Its really more of an option for people who don't want to go through all the hastle of setting up a server also the tutorial you linked seems to be somewhat like a direct minecraft server working in the dedicated server, thats not a good idea for newbies with no idea. They can either pay someone to install pterodactyl for them or just buy a direct game server.

    the audience for the market is just completely different, I'd be targetting people who just want a direct game server to work on instead of going through all the hastle and maybe sometimes even to save money as ddos protected dedicated servers are always priced high afaik and it'd be better if people could just spend their money on a 1$/gb host that takes care of ddos protection for them. Who knows, I might decide to sell vps later if I do start this hosting project and I could cover that audience too

  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    Also @WhiteRoseG

    you can take a look at the pterodactyl installation docs, its pretty lengthy and mistakes can be easily made by people who haven't done it before
    https://pterodactyl.io/project/introduction.html

    Thats why its recommended to get an sys admin if operating on a vps with no experience which I'm currently doing (I have little knowledge as I've played aroun with a vps before), the vps I talked about is managed by my friend whose an sys admin. If I was alone I wouldn't even have bought a vps to begin with as its hard to manage it alone with no experience while game servers won't be that hard to handle as there's always a support staff of that particular host that can help the user with whatever the issue they're facing easily.
    Thats why many hosts use pterodactyl.io, its the best panel solution for Minecraft servers.

    If you still think there's no market for this I cannot say anything else as I partially agree with you regarding people just buying a vps/dedi themselves as they'd have more power with it as they could use it for multiple purposes besides running a Minecraft server.

    But overall direct game hosting audience would be people who are just getting started with minecraft servers or do not wish to go through all the trouble of setting up a vps.

    There can be security issues and such which normal people wouldn't know, I had to go through 1-2 videos to learn to disable root login and user login and setup firewall and etc and make it work only with a ssh key, I later got it done completely with the help of my sys admin friend.

  • @ArrowBoi said:
    Also @WhiteRoseG

    you can take a look at the pterodactyl installation docs, its pretty lengthy and mistakes can be easily made by people who haven't done it before
    https://pterodactyl.io/project/introduction.html

    Thats why its recommended to get an sys admin if operating on a vps with no experience which I'm currently doing (I have little knowledge as I've played aroun with a vps before), the vps I talked about is managed by my friend whose an sys admin. If I was alone I wouldn't even have bought a vps to begin with as its hard to manage it alone with no experience while game servers won't be that hard to handle as there's always a support staff of that particular host that can help the user with whatever the issue they're facing easily.
    Thats why many hosts use pterodactyl.io, its the best panel solution for Minecraft servers.

    If you still think there's no market for this I cannot say anything else as I partially agree with you regarding people just buying a vp/dedi themselves as they'd have more power with as they could use it for multiple purposes besides running a Minecraft server.

    But overall direct game hosting audience would be people who are just getting started with minecraft servers or do not wish to go through all the trouble of setting up a vps.

    There can be security issues and such which normal people wouldn't know, I had to go through 1-2 videos to learn to disable root login and user login and make it work only with a ssh key, I later got it done completely with the help of my sys admin friend.

    Based on your described experience, I would highly recommend gaining a lot more sysadmin knowledge before starting up your own game server hosting business

  • Being on Contabo for a year, I'm about to switch. CPU power was fine until some two months ago. Tried to update to a bigger spec, no improvement.

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  • @PepePepperoni said:
    Being on Contabo for a year, I'm about to switch. CPU power was fine until some two months ago. Tried to update to a bigger spec, no improvement.

    CPU steal issues?

  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    @Moopah said:

    @ArrowBoi said:
    Also @WhiteRoseG

    you can take a look at the pterodactyl installation docs, its pretty lengthy and mistakes can be easily made by people who haven't done it before
    https://pterodactyl.io/project/introduction.html

    Thats why its recommended to get an sys admin if operating on a vps with no experience which I'm currently doing (I have little knowledge as I've played aroun with a vps before), the vps I talked about is managed by my friend whose an sys admin. If I was alone I wouldn't even have bought a vps to begin with as its hard to manage it alone with no experience while game servers won't be that hard to handle as there's always a support staff of that particular host that can help the user with whatever the issue they're facing easily.
    Thats why many hosts use pterodactyl.io, its the best panel solution for Minecraft servers.

    If you still think there's no market for this I cannot say anything else as I partially agree with you regarding people just buying a vp/dedi themselves as they'd have more power with as they could use it for multiple purposes besides running a Minecraft server.

    But overall direct game hosting audience would be people who are just getting started with minecraft servers or do not wish to go through all the trouble of setting up a vps.

    There can be security issues and such which normal people wouldn't know, I had to go through 1-2 videos to learn to disable root login and user login and make it work only with a ssh key, I later got it done completely with the help of my sys admin friend.

    Based on your described experience, I would highly recommend gaining a lot more sysadmin knowledge before starting up your own game server hosting business

    I have an sys admin also yes I do plan on gaining some knowledge but I have an sys admin who can do most of the work.

  • ArrowBoiArrowBoi Member
    edited December 2023

    @PepePepperoni said:
    Being on Contabo for a year, I'm about to switch. CPU power was fine until some two months ago. Tried to update to a bigger spec, no improvement.

    which company do you plan on switching to?

  • The price is cheap and the quality is also "cheap"

    I tried them a few months ago and quickly moved my website to another host

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