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  • the_doctorthe_doctor Member

    @optisoft said:
    Maybe will be possible some smaller storage plan ? 256g or 512g ?

    They used to, but mentioned that it just wasn't financially viable going forward. Same with smaller dimensioned compute nodes.

    But I agree, it would be really nice! They used to offer a crazy nice package with one small compute in each of their global DC's - that must have made -some- money.

  • gagagaga Member

    @gaga said: @hosthatch I paid two years for Storage 1TB plan.
    But the billing cycle stated : Next payment is due on 2023-12-29 for a total of $65.00. It's one month, not two year :)

    Ticket has been created to Billing Department.

    Ticket has been replied and the due date has been fixed. Thank you @hosthatch

    Thanked by 1the_doctor
  • UmairUmair Member

    @JabJab said:
    @Umair so, was it reserved space or not? :)

    I used the given AlmaLinux image and it was setup using xfs filesystem. Can not use tune2fs for it.
    But now I understand better how it works. For anyone worrying about used disk space with Automated Install on HostHatch, you should read this
    https://serverfault.com/questions/983907/newly-created-xfs-filesystem-shows-78-gb-used

    I ended up switching to CentOS7. (Not because of disk usage, but what I need to run has better support for CentOS7. And that fixed it for me :)
    Total used space is 2GB now.

  • webcraftwebcraft Member

    Their control panel is down?

  • ralfralf Member

    @webcraft said:
    Their control panel is down?

    Works fine for me

  • webcraftwebcraft Member

    @ralf said:

    @webcraft said:
    Their control panel is down?

    Works fine for me

  • UmairUmair Member

    Anyone who order storage VPS, can you please post disk speed from YABS ??

    Looks slow to me for a RAID10. May be that's just me.

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda2):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 5.05 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.18 MB/s     (799)
Write      | 5.07 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.47 MB/s     (804)
Total      | 10.12 MB/s    (2.5k) | 102.65 MB/s   (1.6k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 160.62 MB/s    (313) | 186.50 MB/s    (182)
Write      | 169.16 MB/s    (330) | 198.92 MB/s    (194)
Total      | 329.79 MB/s    (643) | 385.43 MB/s    (376)
  • nick_nick_ Member

    @Umair said:
    Anyone who order storage VPS, can you please post disk speed from YABS ??

    Looks slow to me for a RAID10. May be that's just me.

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda2):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 5.05 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.18 MB/s     (799)
Write      | 5.07 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.47 MB/s     (804)
Total      | 10.12 MB/s    (2.5k) | 102.65 MB/s   (1.6k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 160.62 MB/s    (313) | 186.50 MB/s    (182)
Write      | 169.16 MB/s    (330) | 198.92 MB/s    (194)
Total      | 329.79 MB/s    (643) | 385.43 MB/s    (376)

    This looks good for HDD if you asked me.

    Thanked by 1the_doctor
  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member
    edited December 2023

    @hosthatch what datacenter is used in austria?
    Any custom offer/plans for 1cpu and 2gb ram possible?
    Annual payment would be ok for me if that helps

  • nick_nick_ Member
    edited December 2023

    @gbzret4d said:
    @hosthatch what datacenter is used in austria?
    Any custom offer/plans for 1cpu and 2gb ram possible?

    Interxion MAD1 according to https://hosthatch.com/features#datacenters. But is it a typo? It should be something like Interxion VIE instead of Madrid.

    Thanked by 2the_doctor hosthatch
  • gbzret4dgbzret4d Member

    @nick_ said:

    @gbzret4d said:
    @hosthatch what datacenter is used in austria?
    Any custom offer/plans for 1cpu and 2gb ram possible?

    Interxion MAD1 according to https://hosthatch.com/features#datacenters. But is it a typo? It should be something like Interxion VIE instead of Madrid.

    Thanks, weren't able to find it.

  • freddyfreddy Member

    think i got the wrong vps delivered. says T1 Chicago. but i paid for 16gb ram etc 99usd. but only delivers 4 gb. just a mistake. filing a ticket.

    quick delivery very nice

  • freddyfreddy Member

    filed a ticket and 5-10 mjnutes later it was all adjusted and the plan is 100%.

    cheers 🍻

    Thanked by 1the_doctor
  • DylhostDylhost Member
    edited December 2023

    Storage cores are pretty slow, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz... Also likely very overcommitted considering that's only a 12 core CPU, 24 cores per a node at best. Didn't expect much CPU wise from a storage VPS though.

    Waiting for benchmarks

    Edit:
    Old server (Paying full price):

     ## Geekbench v5 CPU Benchmark:

  Single Core : 529  (GOOD)
   Multi Core : 1005

 ## IO Test

 CPU Speed:
    bzip2     :  88.0 MB/s
   sha256     : 138 MB/s
   md5sum     : 364 MB/s

 RAM Speed:
   Avg. write : 1458.9 MB/s
   Avg. read  : 2798.9 MB/s

 Disk Speed:
   1st run    : 664 MB/s
   2nd run    : 787 MB/s
   3rd run    : 804 MB/s
   -----------------------
   Average    : 751.7 MB/s

    Waiting on new server to complete Geekbench... (Old server has 2 cores, new 6)

    Edit2: Still going after 15 minutes... Seems to be stuck. Wanted the disk speed results :(

  • freddyfreddy Member

    Having trouble with snapshoot restore. anyone got experience using a snapshot to build e new server in a different region?

    seems in a forever loop and i initiate restore on new machine. nothing changed. or completed.

    just curious about what i am doing wrong?

    better post real questions :)

    thanks

  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member
    edited December 2023

    @Dylhost said:
    Storage cores are pretty slow, Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2697 v2 @ 2.70GHz... Also likely very overcommitted considering that's only a 12 core CPU, 24 cores per a node at best. Didn't expect much CPU wise from a storage VPS though.

    Waiting for benchmarks

    Edit:
    Old server (Paying full price):

     ## Geekbench v5 CPU Benchmark:

  Single Core : 529  (GOOD)
   Multi Core : 1005

 ## IO Test

 CPU Speed:
    bzip2     :  88.0 MB/s
   sha256     : 138 MB/s
   md5sum     : 364 MB/s

 RAM Speed:
   Avg. write : 1458.9 MB/s
   Avg. read  : 2798.9 MB/s

 Disk Speed:
   1st run    : 664 MB/s
   2nd run    : 787 MB/s
   3rd run    : 804 MB/s
   -----------------------
   Average    : 751.7 MB/s

    Waiting on new server to complete Geekbench... (Old server has 2 cores, new 6)

    Edit2: Still going after 15 minutes... Seems to be stuck. Wanted the disk speed results :(

    Things are a bit busier than usual I think - seeing 15% steal past 3 days on storage server after 2 years of negligible steal

  • jokotanjokotan Member

    @darkimmortal said:
    Things are a bit busier than usual I think - seeing 15% steal past 3 days on storage server after 2 years of negligible steal

    Yes, I think the same, some users migrate data to new servers, some come for BF and get a new ideas how to re-setup there vps, some doing bench and compare old and new instances

  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran
    edited December 2023

    @nick_ said:

    @Umair said:
    Anyone who order storage VPS, can you please post disk speed from YABS ??

    Looks slow to me for a RAID10. May be that's just me.

    fio Disk Speed Tests (Mixed R/W 50/50) (Partition /dev/vda2):
---------------------------------
Block Size | 4k            (IOPS) | 64k           (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 5.05 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.18 MB/s     (799)
Write      | 5.07 MB/s     (1.2k) | 51.47 MB/s     (804)
Total      | 10.12 MB/s    (2.5k) | 102.65 MB/s   (1.6k)
           |                      |
Block Size | 512k          (IOPS) | 1m            (IOPS)
  ------   | ---            ----  | ----           ----
Read       | 160.62 MB/s    (313) | 186.50 MB/s    (182)
Write      | 169.16 MB/s    (330) | 198.92 MB/s    (194)
Total      | 329.79 MB/s    (643) | 385.43 MB/s    (376)

    This looks good for HDD if you asked me.

    +1 these are good speeds for HDDs in a shared server. You need to keep in mind that the entire RAID array is not dedicated to you, and it'd be set up in a way that one user can't use all the throughput (as then one user running a benchmark would negatively affect everyone else on the same server). Also, it's likely that many people are running benchmarks at the moment.

    @Dylhost said: Also likely very overcommitted considering that's only a 12 core CPU, 24 cores per a node at best. Didn't expect much CPU wise from a storage VPS though.

    The storage VPSes do not have dedicated CPU. Only the NVMe VPSes do.

    They didn't say it in this post, but HostHatch used to include a paragraph explaining that the storage VPSes are for storage and not for compute. If you need to run something that's CPU-heavy, it's recommended to have both a storage VPS and an NVMe VPS, and mount the storage via network file sharing (NFS, SMB, etc.) or a disk image on it as a block device (NBD, iSCSI, etc.).

    Thanked by 3Shot2 ariq01 hosthatch
  • ralfralf Member

    @webcraft said:

    @ralf said:

    @webcraft said:
    Their control panel is down?

    Works fine for me

    I dunno. After you asked, I logged onto my HH control panel, could see all 3 servers I have with them, clicked on the most recent one and could see all the info on it.

    Thanked by 1webcraft
  • raza19raza19 Veteran

    @Daniel15 said:
    They didn't say it in this post, but HostHatch used to include a paragraph explaining that the storage VPSes are for storage and not for compute. If you need to run something that's CPU-heavy, it's recommended to have both a storage VPS and an NVMe VPS, and mount the storage via network file sharing (NFS, SMB, etc.) or a disk image on it as a block device (NBD, iSCSI, etc.).

    I have just that setup. Storage mounted via nfs on compute & with cachefilesd its a beast. Like the hit rate on cache is huge. So u kinda get 2 terbytes of nvme cached raid . one cudnt ask for more in this price. Its just so beautiful & to top it up there is a private network between the two which doesnt add to ur bandwidth consumption. I feel like hosthatch's brand ambassador now :D

    Thanked by 4darkimmortal ariq01 hosthatch vimalware
  • Daniel15Daniel15 Veteran

    @raza19 said: Storage mounted via nfs on compute & with cachefilesd

    I wrote a guide about this a while back: https://d.sb/2020/12/nfs-howto

    Back then, HostHatch had a shared internal network for all customers in the same location, which is why I used WireGuard. That's not needed any more now that HostHatch have a private VLAN per customer.

    Thanked by 6raza19 nick_ ariq01 the_doctor vimalware commercial
  • raza19raza19 Veteran

    @Daniel15 said:

    @raza19 said: Storage mounted via nfs on compute & with cachefilesd

    I wrote a guide about this a while back: https://d.sb/2020/12/nfs-howto

    Back then, HostHatch had a shared internal network for all customers in the same location, which is why I used WireGuard. That's not needed any more now that HostHatch have a private VLAN per customer.

    The great thing is software like nextcloud give u the option to choose location of ur static files. So u can store ur code on nvme/ssd whereas put the static content like images and videos on nfs. Its a very snappy installation. With first hitting php's opcache then nvme and very unikely nfs. Its just an awesome and yet simple setup. I too was thinking of writing a tutorial here on the matter for others.

  • mrkaffeine92mrkaffeine92 Member

    Per TrustPilot and others, HostHatch has some questionable customer service. Good if you don't need to hit them up I guess.

  • dosaidosai Member

    @mrkaffeine92 said:
    Per TrustPilot and others, HostHatch has some questionable customer service. Good if you don't need to hit them up I guess.

    Buy their regular plans for better support.

  • optisoftoptisoft Member

    @the_doctor said:

    @optisoft said:
    Maybe will be possible some smaller storage plan ? 256g or 512g ?

    They used to, but mentioned that it just wasn't financially viable going forward. Same with smaller dimensioned compute nodes.

    But I agree, it would be really nice! They used to offer a crazy nice package with one small compute in each of their global DC's - that must have made -some- money.

    ipv6 only will be nice too

  • cyberpunkcyberpunk Member
    edited December 2023

    Is it just me or there are few small network downtimes in Amsterdam location recently? For all my VPSes there, including NVMe, Storages (old and new Raid-10)?

    2 Dec 19:30 2 Dec 19:32 2min
2 Dec 18:23 2 Dec 18:25 2min
2 Dec 7:14  2 Dec 7:16  2min
1 Dec 7:05  1 Dec 7:06  1min

    Time is UTC as reported by HetrixTools

    Thanked by 1vimalware
  • remyremy Member

    @cyberpunk said:
    Is it just me or there are quite a few small network downtimes in Amsterdam location recently? For all my VPSes there, including NVMe, Storages (old and new Raid-10)?

    2 Dec 19:30   2 Dec 19:32 2min
2 Dec 18:23   2 Dec 18:25 2min
2 Dec 7:14    2 Dec 7:16  2min
1 Dec 7:05    1 Dec 7:06  1min

    Time is UTC

    I have some downtime that matches. In particular those of December 1st.
    But my monitoring is fairly lax.
    These are not servers ordered this year. So I guess this concerns all nodes at this location.

    Thanked by 1cyberpunk
  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member

    @cyberpunk said:
    Is it just me or there are few small network downtimes in Amsterdam location recently? For all my VPSes there, including NVMe, Storages (old and new Raid-10)?

    2 Dec 19:30   2 Dec 19:32 2min
2 Dec 18:23   2 Dec 18:25 2min
2 Dec 7:14    2 Dec 7:16  2min
1 Dec 7:05    1 Dec 7:06  1min

    Time is UTC as reported by HetrixTools

    Same here

    Thanked by 1cyberpunk
  • nobizzlenobizzle Member

    just had another network downtime for 2 minutes

  • darkimmortaldarkimmortal Member

    @nobizzle said:
    just had another network downtime for 2 minutes

    Also same here, ~87 seconds

    No bother for my use case, but historically it has been more stable

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