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  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy said: Realistically this thread is just Kiwi Farms users like kait

    Still not a kiwifarm user :)

  • fatchanfatchan Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: In the real world, average people on the street...

    The average opinion might differ depending on where you live and who you hang out with.

    I didn't become a Kiwifarms user until I heard through the grapevine that Josh was using one of my public open source projects to try and help mitigate DDoS attacks. And by through the grapevine, I meant my email.

    So as far as profit goes, you might be right. It probably costs OVH quite a bit to have the infrastructure to protect their innocent customers from criminals. Criminals who commit actual crimes like DDoS, not thought crimes.

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  • @fatchan said:

    @SirFoxy said: In the real world, average people on the street...

    The average opinion might differ depending on where you live and who you hang out with.

    I didn't become a Kiwifarms user until I heard through the grapevine that Josh was using one of my public open source projects to try and help mitigate DDoS attacks. And by through the grapevine, I meant my email.

    So as far as profit goes, you might be right. It probably costs OVH quite a bit to have the infrastructure to protect their innocent customers from criminals. Criminals who commit actual crimes like DDoS, not thought crimes.

    Using the the phrase “thought crimes” minimizes the victims of stalking and harassment and shows bias.

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  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: Edit: the LEB article about Kiwi Farms being deplatformed is now updated.

    Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    No, it isn't. Use something that has whois database from last decade.
    Its an entirely unrelated Australian entity. But it doesn't stop you from accusing random people of random things without any research or confirmation.

    I have no idea how many BilohBucks are you paid, but I hope its not more than $5 per article, they aren't worth much more.

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  • @SirFoxy said:

    @fatchan said:

    @SirFoxy said: In the real world, average people on the street...

    The average opinion might differ depending on where you live and who you hang out with.

    I didn't become a Kiwifarms user until I heard through the grapevine that Josh was using one of my public open source projects to try and help mitigate DDoS attacks. And by through the grapevine, I meant my email.

    So as far as profit goes, you might be right. It probably costs OVH quite a bit to have the infrastructure to protect their innocent customers from criminals. Criminals who commit actual crimes like DDoS, not thought crimes.

    Using the the phrase “thought crimes” minimizes the victims of stalking and harassment and shows bias.

    No American Court has ruled Kiwifarms unlawful.
    Nobody cares about your biased propaganda, speak facts not feelings.

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  • kaitkait Member

    @neckbreaker said: Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    He can't do any research, deal with it. He is a copywriter not a investigator :trollface:

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  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @kait said:

    @neckbreaker said: Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    He can't do any research, deal with it. He is a copywriter not a investigator :trollface:

    He is a retard dummie, that's who he is.

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  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: You don’t want to attract high-risk customers to your hosting service that hate KYC, like @tinyweasel or @treesmokah - these are the types of people that use Kiwi Farms.

    Obsessed much? Are those people criminals? Are they bad people?
    Either way, they live in your head rent free. They had to roll you good for you to dislike them so much(which isn't hard to do, your IQ is around room temperature).

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  • @neckbreaker said:

    @SirFoxy said: Edit: the LEB article about Kiwi Farms being deplatformed is now updated.

    Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    No, it isn't. Use something that has whois database from last decade.
    Its an entirely unrelated Australian entity. But it doesn't stop you from accusing random people of random things without any research or confirmation.

    I have no idea how many BilohBucks are you paid, but I hope its not more than $5 per article, they aren't worth much more.

    FCP is Josh’s Australian shell company used for IP space.

  • @SirFoxy said:

    @neckbreaker said:

    @SirFoxy said: Edit: the LEB article about Kiwi Farms being deplatformed is now updated.

    Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    No, it isn't. Use something that has whois database from last decade.
    Its an entirely unrelated Australian entity. But it doesn't stop you from accusing random people of random things without any research or confirmation.

    I have no idea how many BilohBucks are you paid, but I hope its not more than $5 per article, they aren't worth much more.

    FCP is Josh’s Australian shell company used for IP space.

    Prove it.

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • ArkasArkas Moderator

    @neckbreaker said: He is a retard dummie, that's who he is.

    I've warned you to stop using 'retard', it is offensive to certain individuals with mental issues. You are on thin ice and this is your last official warning.

  • @Arkas said: 'retard', it is offensive to certain individuals with mental issues

    LOL

    @Arkas said: You are on thin ice and this is your last official warning.

    I have purposefully strikethrough'd it and replaced with a "dummie".

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  • @neckbreaker said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @neckbreaker said:

    @SirFoxy said: Edit: the LEB article about Kiwi Farms being deplatformed is now updated.

    Nice, I see you posted even more lies:

    No, it isn't. Use something that has whois database from last decade.
    Its an entirely unrelated Australian entity. But it doesn't stop you from accusing random people of random things without any research or confirmation.

    I have no idea how many BilohBucks are you paid, but I hope its not more than $5 per article, they aren't worth much more.

    FCP is Josh’s Australian shell company used for IP space.

    Prove it.

    Lol, what do you mean prove it? Look at his IP space. It’s an effort to protect himself.

    https://www.onionfarms.com/threads/joshua-conner-null-moon.621/page-12

  • neckbreakerneckbreaker Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: Lol, what do you mean prove it?

    Show me him incorporating a company in Australia.

    This is not evidence. These people are as clueless as you are.

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  • HarmonyHarmony Member
    edited July 2023

    Well this is good. Now let the court decide if Kiwifarms is legal or not.

    If they are ruled a legal operating site I hope Josh gets a few hundred grand off HE in settlement.

    I would give my opinion like the other guys but who really gives a fuck.

    Hope guys like @Francisco dump HE :smile: and let them know why

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  • @neckbreaker said:

    @SirFoxy said: Lol, what do you mean prove it?

    Show me him incorporating a company in Australia.

    This is not evidence. These people are as clueless as you are.

    Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

  • kaitkait Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually use a real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    Thanked by 1sillycat
  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited July 2023

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually used the real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/103.114.191.4

    % Information related to '103.114.191.0/24AS1002'

    route: 103.114.191.0/24
    origin: AS1002
    descr: Flow Chemical Pty Ltd
    PO BOX 16, NOBBY BEACH
    mnt-by: MAINT-1776-US
    last-modified: 2022-11-04T22:52:38Z
    source: APNIC

    ASN 1002 goes back to Veilios Hosting, a hosting company https://veilios.com that does not have a functional site yet possesses a /24, /23 and /22.

    OrgName: Veilios Hosting LLC
    OrgId: VHL-190
    Address: 530-B Harkle Road, Suite 100
    City: Santa Fe
    StateProv: NM
    PostalCode: 87505
    Country: US
    RegDate: 2021-08-25
    Updated: 2023-07-20
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/VHL-190

    Afaik, Liz Fong-Jones was actively suing Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical Pty LTD in Australia. It has some of the worst free speech laws in the world (in your perspective). FCP is without a doubt a real shell company for Kiwi Farms, though.

  • kaitkait Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually used the real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/103.114.191.4

    % Information related to '103.114.191.0/24AS1002'

    route: 103.114.191.0/24
    origin: AS1002
    descr: Flow Chemical Pty Ltd
    PO BOX 16, NOBBY BEACH
    mnt-by: MAINT-1776-US
    last-modified: 2022-11-04T22:52:38Z
    source: APNIC

    ASN 1002 goes back to Veilios Hosting, a hosting company https://veilios.com that does not have a functional site yet possesses a /24, /23 and /22.

    OrgName: Veilios Hosting LLC
    OrgId: VHL-190
    Address: 530-B Harkle Road, Suite 100
    City: Santa Fe
    StateProv: NM
    PostalCode: 87505
    Country: US
    RegDate: 2021-08-25
    Updated: 2023-07-20
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/VHL-190

    Afaik, Liz Fong-Jones was actively suing Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical Pty LTD in Australia. It has some of the worst free speech laws in the world. FCP is without a doubt a real shell company for Kiwi Farms, though.

    So abuseipdb is right but the RIR is not? You clearly don't know how RIR's work and that 103.114.191.0/24AS1002 is not 103.114.191.0/24

    even abuseipdb says its 1776 Solutions, LLC but you scroll down to try to prove you're right even though you are not.

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  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy it is super easy to admit that you are wrong and bad at doing research into internet resources and bgp.

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  • @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually used the real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/103.114.191.4

    % Information related to '103.114.191.0/24AS1002'

    route: 103.114.191.0/24
    origin: AS1002
    descr: Flow Chemical Pty Ltd
    PO BOX 16, NOBBY BEACH
    mnt-by: MAINT-1776-US
    last-modified: 2022-11-04T22:52:38Z
    source: APNIC

    ASN 1002 goes back to Veilios Hosting, a hosting company https://veilios.com that does not have a functional site yet possesses a /24, /23 and /22.

    OrgName: Veilios Hosting LLC
    OrgId: VHL-190
    Address: 530-B Harkle Road, Suite 100
    City: Santa Fe
    StateProv: NM
    PostalCode: 87505
    Country: US
    RegDate: 2021-08-25
    Updated: 2023-07-20
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/VHL-190

    Afaik, Liz Fong-Jones was actively suing Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical Pty LTD in Australia. It has some of the worst free speech laws in the world. FCP is without a doubt a real shell company for Kiwi Farms, though.

    So abuseipdb is right but the RIR is not? You clearly don't know how RIR's work and that 103.114.191.0/24AS1002 is not 103.114.191.0/24

    even abuseipdb says its 1776 Solutions, LLC but you scroll down to try to prove you're right even though you are not.

    No, KF range is in APNIC (a terrible choice for him) and was through Vincent Zhen and FCP:

    https://www.esafety.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-12/LOG_31_Document_18.pdf

    Liz Fong-Jones sued the shell company, FCP, that housed Joshua Moon's IPs (mention of it here):

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220929192833/https://groundreport.in/what-is-kiwifarms-chasing-political-enemies-around-world/v

    Joshua Moon has like 7 different shell companies between the valid and invalid ones.

  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually used the real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/103.114.191.4

    % Information related to '103.114.191.0/24AS1002'

    route: 103.114.191.0/24
    origin: AS1002
    descr: Flow Chemical Pty Ltd
    PO BOX 16, NOBBY BEACH
    mnt-by: MAINT-1776-US
    last-modified: 2022-11-04T22:52:38Z
    source: APNIC

    ASN 1002 goes back to Veilios Hosting, a hosting company https://veilios.com that does not have a functional site yet possesses a /24, /23 and /22.

    OrgName: Veilios Hosting LLC
    OrgId: VHL-190
    Address: 530-B Harkle Road, Suite 100
    City: Santa Fe
    StateProv: NM
    PostalCode: 87505
    Country: US
    RegDate: 2021-08-25
    Updated: 2023-07-20
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/VHL-190

    Afaik, Liz Fong-Jones was actively suing Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical Pty LTD in Australia. It has some of the worst free speech laws in the world. FCP is without a doubt a real shell company for Kiwi Farms, though.

    So abuseipdb is right but the RIR is not? You clearly don't know how RIR's work and that 103.114.191.0/24AS1002 is not 103.114.191.0/24

    even abuseipdb says its 1776 Solutions, LLC but you scroll down to try to prove you're right even though you are not.

    No, KF range is in APNIC (a terrible choice for him) and was through Vincent Zhen and FCP:

    https://www.esafety.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-12/LOG_31_Document_18.pdf

    Liz Fong-Jones sued the shell company, FCP, that housed Joshua Moon's IPs (mention of it here):

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220929192833/https://groundreport.in/what-is-kiwifarms-chasing-political-enemies-around-world/v

    Joshua Moon has like 7 different shell companies between the valid and invalid ones.

    Might have been flow chemical then, but now its 1776 Solutions, LLC
    Apnic says so themselfs.
    https://netox.apnic.net/apnic-at-a-glance/103.114.191.0/24

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  • @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said:

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Flowchemical.com.au is not a valid company and has only ever been used on Kiwi Farms.

    It's technically run by Vincent Zhen, a middleman for Joshua Moon.

    If you actually used the real source you can see that its actually 1776 Solutions, LLC
    But like I said before, I don't expect you to get anything correct when it comes to this stuff.

    https://whois.arin.net/rest/asn/AS397702/pft?s=AS397702

    https://www.abuseipdb.com/whois/103.114.191.4

    % Information related to '103.114.191.0/24AS1002'

    route: 103.114.191.0/24
    origin: AS1002
    descr: Flow Chemical Pty Ltd
    PO BOX 16, NOBBY BEACH
    mnt-by: MAINT-1776-US
    last-modified: 2022-11-04T22:52:38Z
    source: APNIC

    ASN 1002 goes back to Veilios Hosting, a hosting company https://veilios.com that does not have a functional site yet possesses a /24, /23 and /22.

    OrgName: Veilios Hosting LLC
    OrgId: VHL-190
    Address: 530-B Harkle Road, Suite 100
    City: Santa Fe
    StateProv: NM
    PostalCode: 87505
    Country: US
    RegDate: 2021-08-25
    Updated: 2023-07-20
    Ref: https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/VHL-190

    Afaik, Liz Fong-Jones was actively suing Vincent Zhen and Flow Chemical Pty LTD in Australia. It has some of the worst free speech laws in the world. FCP is without a doubt a real shell company for Kiwi Farms, though.

    So abuseipdb is right but the RIR is not? You clearly don't know how RIR's work and that 103.114.191.0/24AS1002 is not 103.114.191.0/24

    even abuseipdb says its 1776 Solutions, LLC but you scroll down to try to prove you're right even though you are not.

    No, KF range is in APNIC (a terrible choice for him) and was through Vincent Zhen and FCP:

    https://www.esafety.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-12/LOG_31_Document_18.pdf

    Liz Fong-Jones sued the shell company, FCP, that housed Joshua Moon's IPs (mention of it here):

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220929192833/https://groundreport.in/what-is-kiwifarms-chasing-political-enemies-around-world/v

    Joshua Moon has like 7 different shell companies between the valid and invalid ones.

    Might have been flow chemical then, but now its 1776 Solutions, LLC
    Apnic says so themselfs.
    https://netox.apnic.net/apnic-at-a-glance/103.114.191.0/24

    Why do you think Josh would want to move from Australia to the US?

    The important part, however, is that the KF range is still APNIC.

    "To get IP addresses from APNIC:
    Your organization must be a legal entity registered in the Asia Pacific region or plan to use the IP addresses for your network in the Asia Pacific region
    You’ll need to provide documentation with your application:
    Proof of your business legal entity e.g. Certification of business incorporation
    Any Internet number resources currently held by your organization
    The intended use for the address space requested e.g. network plans"

    https://www.apnic.net/landing/more-information

    Assumably the range was acquired under the pretense it would be used for a chemical company in Australia.

  • timmmytimmmy Member

    @neckbreaker said:

    @Arkas said: 'retard', it is offensive to certain individuals with mental issues

    LOL

    @Arkas said: You are on thin ice and this is your last official warning.

    I have purposefully strikethrough'd it and replaced with a "dummie".

    wb smokah

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  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy said: Why do you think Josh would want to move from Australia to the US?

    Don't care.

    @SirFoxy said: The important part, however, is that the KF range is still APNIC.

    Don't care.

    @SirFoxy said: Assumably the range was acquired under the pretense it would be used for a chemical company in Australia.

    No, anyone can name their company however they want and get resources, as long as you pay.

    This whole conversation is about it being 1776 Solutions and not Flow Chemical. Nice try at deflecting own up to your mistakes.

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  • @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: Why do you think Josh would want to move from Australia to the US?

    Don't care.

    @SirFoxy said: The important part, however, is that the KF range is still APNIC.

    Don't care.

    @SirFoxy said: Assumably the range was acquired under the pretense it would be used for a chemical company in Australia.

    No, anyone can name their company however they want and get resources, as long as you pay.

    This whole conversation is about it being 1776 Solutions and not Flow Chemical. Nice try at deflecting own up to your mistakes.

    You: Flow Chemical Party LTD is not real

    Me: here, it's real.

    You: DEFLECTING. FAKE NEWS.

  • kaitkait Member
    edited July 2023

    @SirFoxy said: You: Flow Chemical Party LTD is not real

    I never said Flow Chemical was not real...

    I said the Internet Resources belong to 1776 Solutions and not Flow Chemical (It was Flow Chemical a year ago or so).

    Againt with the strawman.

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  • Linking to a forum that is attempting to be the Kiwifarms as a source is proving how good of an investigator you are...

  • SirFoxySirFoxy Member
    edited July 2023

    @kait said:

    @SirFoxy said: You: Flow Chemical Party LTD is not real

    I never said Flow Chemical was not real...

    I said the Internet Resources belong to 1776 Solutions and not Flow Chemical (It was Flow Chemical a year ago or so).

    Acquired from a company undergoing an active lawsuit.

  • kaitkait Member

    @SirFoxy said: Sold from a company undergoing an active lawsuit.

    And, the Internet Resources Josh owns are owned under 1776 Solutions not Flow Chemical.

    Now point out where I said Flow Chemical isn't real

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