The end for kubbur.com?

wdmg

@BlaZe said:
How do you pronounce Kubbur?

Koo - Ber ? (as in like Uber?)
Cub - Ber ? (a lion's cub and ending with Ber from Uber?)

Koo - Boor?
Cub - Boor?

Cougar.

johnnyquestion

How does one become a Summerhost CEO? Are there seminars or books available?

Jack_SBE

Kubbur was good while it lasted. I think a lot went wrong and things could have been done differently.

Wishing everyone involved the best and hope you can get passed this drama.

ralf

@Jack_SBE said:
Kubbur was good while it lasted. I think a lot went wrong and things could have been done differently.

Wishing everyone involved the best and hope you can get passed this drama.

The long version was a lot more interesting!

Xrmaddness

@johnnyquestion said:
How does one become a Summerhost CEO? Are there seminars or books available?

https://services.lowendtalk.com/index.php?rp=/store/lowendtalk-provider-tag

wdmg

@Jack_SBE said:
Kubbur was good while it lasted. I think a lot went wrong and things could have been done differently.

Wishing everyone involved the best and hope you can get passed this drama.

I preferred the long version. Wish it stayed up.

mw

I am grateful to have been a customer, this show was magnificent and it aint even over. I'm still obligated a refund (tiny so idc, price of admission to the show)

It really was amazing watching this unfold over Discord and slowly spill onto LET lmfao

CONTENT CONTENT CONTENT

hollowvi1

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

wdmg

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

Sure, Ellis. I'm sure you did. I'm still waiting on that refund, but thanks for confirming your identity.

NobodyInteresting

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

Then you got scammed by some teenagers.
Not something to brag about in my opinion, but you do you.

FatGrizzly

@BlaZe said:
How do you pronounce Kubbur?

Koo - Ber ? (as in like Uber?)
Cub - Ber ? (a lion's cub and ending with Ber from Uber?)

Koo - Boor?
Cub - Boor?

kub-boor

TrillAndrew

i'm just going to drop this here:

https://dramaggi.sbs/d/41-i-could-have-stolen-kuxos-domains-but-chose-not-to

You want to talk about it? i'm here.

NoComment

@TrillAndrew said:
i'm just going to drop this here:

https://dramaggi.sbs/d/41-i-could-have-stolen-kuxos-domains-but-chose-not-to

You want to talk about it? i'm here.

Wait, so dramagg is a webhosting specific drama forum, and dramaggisbs is a drama forum about dramagg being bs.. Am I missing something here?

ralf

I'm also surprised to hear that anybody in the company thought it was a good idea to sell the "brand" and "the rest of the company" separately. The brand is too young to be valuable, and it's just going to cause untold confusion down the road.

Customers moving to the new company will probably still forget and try to log on to the old domain and leak their credentials.

The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

The only time I think it'd make sense was if the brand was actually closely tied to one specific person and they were going to use it in a completely different industry.

emgh

@ralf said:
I'm also surprised to hear that anybody in the company thought it was a good idea to sell the "brand" and "the rest of the company" separately. The brand is too young to be valuable, and it's just going to cause untold confusion down the road.

Customers moving to the new company will probably still forget and try to log on to the old domain and leak their credentials.

The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

The only time I think it'd make sense was if the brand was actually closely tied to one specific person and they were going to use it in a completely different industry.

That’s logical, but you forget one aspect, they probably made a few extra k for selling a fucking logo and website design - it’s a steal (for the seller).

Advin

@TrillAndrew said:
i'm just going to drop this here:

https://dramaggi.sbs/d/41-i-could-have-stolen-kuxos-domains-but-chose-not-to

You want to talk about it? i'm here.

Small question, how did you get access to that email? It's not really clear

FatGrizzly

@Advin said:

@TrillAndrew said:
i'm just going to drop this here:

https://dramaggi.sbs/d/41-i-could-have-stolen-kuxos-domains-but-chose-not-to

You want to talk about it? i'm here.

Small question, how did you get access to that email? It's not really clear

iirc, he owns sys413

Edit: He co-owned sys413 with ellis, and when ellis left/kicked out, he took over his email account - best guess

Offshore_Solutions

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

You did pay 11K for Kubbur? Please can you mentione what you received for that price?

@ralf said:
The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

A well known name-brand host like HostGator or Godaddy is worth 11K or more for the brand alone.

Not too many hosting companies have enough name recognition to make their brands worth much.

Being hard to pronounce, and linked to drama via Google search, I'm not sure why a brand that's existed for 2 years would be sought.

A new pronouncable brand has more value.

hollowvi1

@Offshore_Solutions said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

You did pay 11K for Kubbur? Please can you mentione what you received for that price?

@ralf said:
The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

A well known name-brand host like HostGator or Godaddy is worth 11K or more for the brand alone.

Not too many hosting companies have enough name recognition to make their brands worth much.

Being hard to pronounce, and linked to drama via Google search, I'm not sure why a brand that's existed for 2 years would be sought.

A new pronouncable brand has more value.

Eh just felt like buying it tbh lol. idrc i have money to throw around

BilohBucks

@hollowvi1 said:

@Offshore_Solutions said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

You did pay 11K for Kubbur? Please can you mentione what you received for that price?

@ralf said:
The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

A well known name-brand host like HostGator or Godaddy is worth 11K or more for the brand alone.

Not too many hosting companies have enough name recognition to make their brands worth much.

Being hard to pronounce, and linked to drama via Google search, I'm not sure why a brand that's existed for 2 years would be sought.

A new pronouncable brand has more value.

Eh just felt like buying it tbh lol. idrc i have money to throw around

Did you consider throwing @BilohBucks for Provider Tag?

cybertech

@hollowvi1 said:

@Offshore_Solutions said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

You did pay 11K for Kubbur? Please can you mentione what you received for that price?

@ralf said:
The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

A well known name-brand host like HostGator or Godaddy is worth 11K or more for the brand alone.

Not too many hosting companies have enough name recognition to make their brands worth much.

Being hard to pronounce, and linked to drama via Google search, I'm not sure why a brand that's existed for 2 years would be sought.

A new pronouncable brand has more value.

Eh just felt like buying it tbh lol. idrc i have money to throw around

let me know where you will throw money next. I'll go pick it up

hollowvi1

@BilohBucks said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@Offshore_Solutions said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@wdmg said:

@mikewazar said:
I respect people who burn $10k on a dead brand just so they have the challenge of rebuilding it

I remain heavily doubtful those skids even had $10K to blow. Kubbur had no hardware, no IPs, and no assets as a whole except a website. Their VM panel was just a proxmox wrapper.

Ignoring the razer-thin margins they had on selling at Kubbur, I was the one who sold them a cab many months ago at Tempest/Path originally (it was to Jack at the time, cabinet had a 60 day ETA approximately at the time). There is no way they were making anywhere close to the cabinet costs, it was $3300/month plus $3300 setup fee. Jack had paid it originally then left Kubbur, got refunded, then it was on the Kubbur kids to pay for it… we all know how that worked out for them.

Disclosure: Former CEO @ Tempest

No I actually spent 11k thank you very much.

You did pay 11K for Kubbur? Please can you mentione what you received for that price?

@ralf said:
The brand is kind of pointless without the company - at best they can have another go at it, but the brand will be hard to build further because people will always think "oh, that was sold to someone else".

A well known name-brand host like HostGator or Godaddy is worth 11K or more for the brand alone.

Not too many hosting companies have enough name recognition to make their brands worth much.

Being hard to pronounce, and linked to drama via Google search, I'm not sure why a brand that's existed for 2 years would be sought.

A new pronouncable brand has more value.

Eh just felt like buying it tbh lol. idrc i have money to throw around

Did you consider throwing @BilohBucks for Provider Tag?

I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

mw

@hollowvi1 said:
I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

Does the new owner of Kubbur want to tell us their name, or will they remain an anonymous bullshitter?

emgh

@mikewazar said: remain an anonymous bullshitter

hollowvi1

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:
I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

Does the new owner of Kubbur want to tell us their name, or will they remain an anonymous bullshitter?

I am not a bullshitter lol. But I do have a name. Why do you need it?

emgh

@hollowvi1 said:

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:
I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

Does the new owner of Kubbur want to tell us their name, or will they remain an anonymous bullshitter?

I am not a bullshitter lol. But I do have a name. Why do you need it?

Yes, you are.

mw

@hollowvi1 said:

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:
I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

Does the new owner of Kubbur want to tell us their name, or will they remain an anonymous bullshitter?

I am not a bullshitter lol. But I do have a name. Why do you need it?

Well I know your name because we spoke on Discord. It's Jen, no?

And you used to be the one responsible for Kubbur merch. The website says the merch is made in Texas but I assume thats where the print on demand company is based and not where you actually live.

hollowvi1

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:
I have not thought about marketing just yet because we are still preparing everything ready, We will be working on hiring support & staff team. Once everything is prepared then we will buy the tag.

Does the new owner of Kubbur want to tell us their name, or will they remain an anonymous bullshitter?

I am not a bullshitter lol. But I do have a name. Why do you need it?

Well I know your name because we spoke on Discord. It's Jen, no?

And you used to be the one responsible for Kubbur merch. The website says the merch is made in Texas but I assume thats where the print on demand company is based and not where you actually live.

No I live in Dallas, Texas. It's based on my actual location. I have a local place who helps make the merchandise for me.

mw

@hollowvi1 said:

Why don't you ship to South Africa? I wanted some merch.

hollowvi1

@mikewazar said:

@hollowvi1 said:

Why don't you ship to South Africa? I wanted some merch.

I could if i wanted to lol. Right now merchandise is on pause as we work out some issues because the website is under Kjartann control.