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Users on this site are not going to pay $2-3 to view advertisements from companies. They are oftentimes looking for low-end deals and will not pay for the chance of finding one.
I much rather pay $200/year out of my own pocket and have everyone see the ad rather than pass the fee along to a smaller group of consumers who paid to see it. Just my 2 cents though.
I see you’ve adopted my philosophy as a marketing tool. I’ll expect my cheque April 1st.
Agreed.
The only contribution we can ask of our users is to check back often and to occasionally click on a banner ad that interests them.
Good good fact & comment to take into account, thanks
it is quite possible that it would dramatically reduce the number of views in the offers section (only statistics for some time would give an accurate answer)
perhaps create a survey of how many providers have decided stay despite of the new fee
and another survey how many users are willing to pay approx $ 3 / y could help better orient Jon's in the overall estimate of what is more convenient and when the total losses would be greater (also the fact that you mention)
just a thought, I don't know (maybe i am very naive that users will willing to pay despite the fact that fee is only symbolic and small, and I see it from a distorted point of view - that I have no problem paying if it is justified)
you must to know (or hit it) the best
in each case difficult task - to satisfy everyone as much as possible
Pretty much.
Noone's going to offer to pay to see ads. These "offers" aren't some exclusive sales just to LowEndTalk so trying to gatekeep it like this doesn't help anyone and actually harms LET. On top of that, most people don't enjoy advertisements or seeing ads. Why would someone pay to see them?
The money will make you look the other way, trust me. Anyone willing to pay will be allowed a tag and that is part of the problem you will.
This will absolutely not happen. The guardrails around Provider Tags, which I implemented in January 2020 will continue.
I think he is not depending from any profit from LET ( means not forced approve provider tag to everyone for each price). Only wants have covered his expenses for LET run, instead donate them from his of pocket
Exactly. But that will change with cheap providers disappearing. Also drama eill decrease. It will get more equal and boring.
Not today or tomorrow, but give 6 month or a year. As @dahartigan said markets and communities change constantly anyway. But decisions like such fees decide the direction and I still strongly believe we'll find it to be one, wouldn't have wanted...
I am sensitive to this and working to balance out the burden placed on the smallest hosts among our community. The work in this regard continues.
Free Hookers for everyone.
I think the only relatively fair way of you participating on providers sales would be some sort of percentage/affiliate/referral thingy.
It's understood though, that this obviously is gonna be a bigger issue to make it work in a feasible technical way for accoznting and billing etc.
TBF, if the deal was that providers pay $200/y and we all get free hookers, this news would have been received very differently...
Would we be allowed to resell?
Don't see why not. Although it'd be challenging to provide a proper benchmark for a prospective buyer without using up all your free credit...
Pardon the question, but isn't it a bit late for that?
Frankly, that should have been an important part of your deliberations - and the result, the new system - from the get-go.
The way you played it highly likely drove more than a few (especially smaller) providers away. Even if you told them soon (TM) that there is a practical and decent solution for them too it'll have a smell ...
Well noted, I'm certainly not against you nor against the desire to cover the costs and to have a budget for new ideas. What I dislike is the way you played it; that didn't feel like "community" but like "business".
Correct. Users would pay $2-3 to remove ads, though. And judging by the success of in-app/game purchases over the last decade, people will pay small amounts to feel special. People on LET will pay for Troll tags and other custom tags, for example. Building in the ignore user feature so we don't need greasemonkey scripts would be a payable feature as another example.
All providers can afford that $200 tag even the smaller hosts. The issue is more of a "is it worthy?" $200 can be used to cover a license cost. Maybe the solutions is really to have new rules, moderate the bumps and keep the space neutral so that those smaller hosts can still have a chance and make the investment worthwhile.
Something to keep in mind is that the host has to earn the provider tag, meaning it has to be genuine and comply with certain rules, in general be an established business in real life. Now receiving the news that they will have to pay to keep that respect (tag/symbolic) or to participate, it certainly doesn't sit well with some here, understandably.
This week I am working on some extra perks for provider tag holders to both recognize their support and thank them for it. Many great suggestions have been made in this regard - I agree, and I want to build more value for provider tag holders.
Good point, yep. That's why I am working on the above based on feedback received here the past week.
It's late, but not too late.
I've been listening carefully to all the feedback and suggestions made over the course of the past 9 days and have implemented a bunch of those good ideas.
This week I am going to improve the value of the provider tags and build in some perks that recognize the support from those providers.
We didn't get the rollout right on day #1, but I am going to keep working on it until it's better. All I can do is do my best.