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PSA: Provider Tag Fee Implementation
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I agree on the following points:
I want to add the following points:
About other things:
I think at least in terms of perception/offer threads KermED has a point.
Let him participate in the discussion. Either he brings some improvements to the suggestions or he'll end up hurting his own cause/perception.
I agree...
It should have been obvious to him there are different tiers of hosts on here, that he should be making a lot more off companies (like RackNerds which I believe he invested) than new tiny small providers that are starting at a loss. He clearly needed money more than he cared about the community. That's why his proposals now are all around discounts - he will do anything to get money out of a provider today. He couldn't care less what we think or want.
Anyone can see there are a thousand smarter ways and fairer ways to have done this... But he didn't. The invoices are already sent, and marked as overdue. An actual leader wouldn't have done this in the first place, let alone keep pretending this is a negotiation over percentages. He still doesn't even realize why some people are mad.
But narcissists and sociopaths don't think that way. His only goal right now is to manipulate a yes out of all of us and get cash as fast as he can. He will never take actual accountability (he will never be able to understand what he would been be taking it for). Just as he ignores 95% of what has been posted in here.
@SGraf thank you for the articulate suggestions and opinion.
I am definitely listening.
I also think the shared hosting cap is too low - but i cant put a better price cap on it. For the reseller options i'd suggest around 3x whatever the regular shared hosting is capped at.
I am hearing that the reseller hosting cap is too low.
So you're saying that $21/month~ is the right amount?
I also found a loophole for legalized consumption of delta 9 which dramatically increases one's chill and decreases the number of battles considered to be worth fighting. It helps. I like to know my weaknesses and try to compensate accordingly.
I think if you're going to charge a fee then the lowendtalk margins should be high. Let the providers post more expensive offers etc etc.
The fee he's charging is 20x higher than what hosts are allowed to post. It's a joke at this point afaic.
I'm saying that would be a guess. "Reseller" is a product i don't offer at the moment. Therefore my market insight is limited. Doing a bit of market research on the topic, the 21/month (aka 3x the cap for normal shared hosting) puts you somewhere in the entry to medium plan terrain. You also have to keep in mind the current pricing of popular hosting panel software.
This value/rule just sets the upper limit. What providers do within the limit really is their own thing/responsibility...
But who is interested in more expensive offers? Why not move to another site where providers post cheaper offers instead of paying a fee for posting offers?
I don't understand.
This line:
"live LowEndBox TV episode hosted by Nekki addon: $500"
Shit yeah, I'll do that for $500 a pop. With that sort of cash rolling in, I won't even need to kill the hookers anymore. I will have so much more free time in the evening.
$100 Year would have been more agreeable for me. I pay Discord, NamePros something similar.
Can you send me a one year invoice please?
Can I interest you in the Nekki TV package, Sir? Great value at $500.
Why not just moving to and you don't need to pay any tags?
We are there, and so are you.
Because it's really boring and nothing really happens, so no-one visits and seems the offer threads.
Looking forward to some more feedback on this:
If there is consensus for this modification to the Host Rep tag I will make it official shortly.
So we are still going ahead with your "planned" tweaks - and not put it on HOLD and reverse the invoices? So much for "considering the feedback"
Bad idea. The only 'good' thing about the 'pay-to-offer' idea is it potentially weeds out a lot of the little scammy cunts. This just leaves the door open for them.
There are grammar errors in these three comments.
Someone edited these comments at :50 hurriedly and didn't ensure correct grammar.
References to LowEndSpirit were removed.
Is mentioning such a site violating any rule?
Whenever this has happened, it always reminds me of this thread somehow. More fuel for the people who reckon this place will become WHT, I suppose.
No written rule, but I’m sure you can understand why JB wouldn’t be happy with folks mentioning free alternatives in this thread.
Sure, but if JB wants to regain some trust, he will either need to be open about it by clearly describing it in the rules or not censoring posts.
Not the same thing.
When I visited WHT to discuss in the thread I was very careful to be courteous to WHT and not post links. I only answered the questions directed to me.
So you do not support the idea of host reps (who have gone through the application process and been approved) to be able to sell services in request threads?
I think that ship sailed long ago, in most cases. Folks who don’t trust him aren’t likely to start doing so now, whatever happens.